Boards›Player Behavior

My Final League of Legends Account, Riot's New Behavior System is Flawed

Godlike Platypus··13 votes·1,520 views

(Sadly I didn't take screenshots considering I never thought I'd get perma banned for this, but my team said vulgar things too me and rallied for reports end-game lobby with probably no consequence. I sent in a ticket and asked someone to investigate that games logs but I'm sure it'll just be replied with an automated support message saying there is nothing they can do for me. But anyways here's my logs and some things I added at the end with my thoughts. If nothing is done for my account this will be the last one I ever have. Please share your thoughts on this.)

- It was only 1 game as well shown on my notification to get perma banned, pretty sad that this is all it takes. Game 1 Godlike Platypus: Gragas is german then Godlike Platypus: lul Godlike Platypus: na map awareness Godlike Platypus: trynd u just ruined my jungle rotation Godlike Platypus: you didnt even see me skirmish with sej top lane Godlike Platypus: not over extend Godlike Platypus: Ok Godlike Platypus: I KNOW Godlike Platypus: caps Godlike Platypus: no. Godlike Platypus: You guys even know who your focusing Godlike Platypus: or nah Godlike Platypus: JESUS. Godlike Platypus: vayne isnt meta Godlike Platypus: btw Godlike Platypus: maybe you wouldnt get smacked in lane Godlike Platypus: if u played a good adc Godlike Platypus: lul Godlike Platypus: 2 minutes Godlike Platypus: im cool with 20 Godlike Platypus: typical Godlike Platypus: waste my time Godlike Platypus: You can tell im the guy who wins more than you Godlike Platypus: ur overall win rate from ur play is prolly like 45 percent Godlike Platypus: lul Godlike Platypus: i have a 55 Godlike Platypus: i guarantee yours isnt close Godlike Platypus: ill op .gg you right now Godlike Platypus: lul Godlike Platypus: still a 45 Godlike Platypus: lucky quads dont matter Godlike Platypus: we had a free baron Godlike Platypus: but they wanna run it down mid Godlike Platypus: and get no towers Godlike Platypus: rip Godlike Platypus: wh are you fighting 1v5 Godlike Platypus: typical toxic trynd main :) Godlike Platypus: that should help vik Godlike Platypus: 3v5 Godlike Platypus: does anyone do dmg Godlike Platypus: at all Godlike Platypus: im blind Godlike Platypus: lul Godlike Platypus: you gave us the impression of losing Godlike Platypus: and toxicity Godlike Platypus: perfect ult Godlike Platypus: zero follow up Godlike Platypus: we all know where u were Godlike Platypus: dead Godlike Platypus: Im glad we have a trynd that suicides late game Godlike Platypus: every fight Godlike Platypus: it was your fault Godlike Platypus: your focusing Godlike Platypus: sejuani Godlike Platypus: youre so bad Godlike Platypus: a perfect ult Godlike Platypus: with no follow up Godlike Platypus: Good engage Godlike Platypus: trynd Godlike Platypus: no Godlike Platypus: you didnt do anything Godlike Platypus: you just cost us the game Godlike Platypus: ? Godlike Platypus: 15/14 Godlike Platypus: how do you die Godlike Platypus: 14 times Godlike Platypus: in any ranked game Godlike Platypus: you kids wont ff either Godlike Platypus: waste of time Godlike Platypus: lul Godlike Platypus: gg wp :) Godlike Platypus: So confused Godlike Platypus: why you fed all game Godlike Platypus: ur 6/11 Godlike Platypus: get reported kiddo

(My Message to the Support)

Okay Riot Games, Your automated bots love to perma ban people. The instant it received the reports I was banned 2 minutes later. Now please tell me where I was toxic, besides being a bit passive aggressive and the only thing I truly said which was to tryndamere was that he was bad. But that was only after he repeatedly flamed me and cursed at me along with my other team mates. My entire team proceeded to report me and rally for reports in the end-game lobby.

Assuming I'll probably get a response in about 5 days from one of your automated messages I should probably just post on the boards or reddit but hey I'll give it a shot maybe someone from Riot will see this and actually investigate. I have a feeling nobody will actually check this out my team flamed and said vulgar things too me when the only actual toxic thing I said all game was "ur bad" and I talked about his win rate please tell me how that classifies as being toxic.Sure I was negative but everyone has those games where they are having a bad game but I did not be toxic enough for a perma ban come on Riot. If you guys can't unban me or do anything for me I'm simply quitting League of Legends.

Sincerely, A League Player since season 2010 who actually remembers the tribunal when bans were fairly judged.

38 Comments

archerno111 votes

Im not really sure what you are confused about. You spent entire game blaming your teammates for everything. ADC for his picks, top laner for "ruining your jung rotation", threatening with reports, calling people kids cause they dont wanna surrender... Being negative whole game. This isnt "passive aggressive". This is toxicity.

Supreme Senpai692 votes

This ^. I'd report you too man. If you don't realize this after however many accounts you've made and gotten banned.. I don't know what to tell you.

FurriesAreHot6 votes

Report threats, also if you have multiple perma banned accounts why would you think its a good idea to report call, call allies bad, and non-stop bash them? The system is flawed because it allows you to rejoin with MULTIPLE perma banned accounts.

Godlike Platypus1 votes

{quoted}

Report threats, also if you have multiple perma banned accounts why would you think its a good idea to report call, call allies bad, and non-stop bash them? The system is flawed because it allows you to rejoin with MULTIPLE perma banned accounts.

This is my only perma banned account? Nice assumptions man but this is my first and only perma ban. My team mates used vulgar language the most I said was "ur bad" compared to their curse words and other rude things. ( I lost my first few accounts over the years simply forgetting my info and old emails)

FurriesAreHot3 votes

Assumptions were made based on your argument's title and post as a whole. Also "people are worse than me" isn't an argument. Edit: also, the worst you did was report call, which in itself is a bannable offense

Vistha Kai1 votes

Where are those report threats?

FurriesAreHot3 votes

At the bottom of the logs Godlike Platypus: So confused Godlike Platypus: why you fed all game Godlike Platypus: ur 6/11 Godlike Platypus: get reported kiddo

Godlike Platypus1 votes

[deleted]

FurriesAreHot5 votes

Doesnt matter what they say to you.

Godlike Platypus1 votes

{quoted}

Doesnt matter what they say to you.

That statement doesn't even make sense, If someone says even worse things than I did which triggered me to say what I said don't you think they deserve a ban as well since you assume I deserve one? Yeah you're just irrational. Last reply I make to you.

FurriesAreHot3 votes

You cannot hide facts. I dont care if you reply to me or not, because we all know you were toxic, you obviously were toxic in more than 1 game if you are perma banned.

DrCyanide2 votes

They're triggering you? Use the mute button. Stops that right in its tracks.

As soon as you start behaving in a way that also deserves punishment, you'll get punished for it. There aren't many situations in life where "he started it" flies as an excuse.

Xidphel2 votes

That's because every player is responsible for their own actions.

Vistha Kai2 votes

He only said he's going to report the guy. An information. Nothing more, nothing less.

A threat would be more like "I'll report you, if you won't stop feeding".

FurriesAreHot3 votes

He still was insanely toxic in this match and the report was the icing on the cupcake.

Vistha Kai3 votes

He could've been more polite, yes, but saying it was "insanely toxic" is an insanely huge overstatement.

The worst thing he said was calling somebody a kid.

If you consider that "insanely toxic" then I wonder how you'd call actual toxicity.

FurriesAreHot3 votes

I was speed typing and not looking, I think that "very disrespectful and rude" would be more accurate

Vistha Kai2 votes

Better, but still an overstatement.

Godlike Platypus1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Vistha Kai,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=V4FZjKpm,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2016-10-23T09:58:44.720+0000)

Where are those report threats?

Sadly as I stated at the start I didn't screenshot what my team mates said. I'm hoping Riot will investigate because that's the thing people are judging solely based off what I said which was nothing in comparison to what my team mates said too me. Which followed a 4 man target ban along with asking enemies to report me in post-game lobby.

Vistha Kai2 votes

That's not what I meant.

It was a question for people who claim you were threatening people with reports, when you clearly weren't.

Godlike Platypus1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Vistha Kai,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=V4FZjKpm,comment-id=0001000100010000,timestamp=2016-10-23T10:26:10.417+0000)

That's not what I meant.

It was a question for people who claim you were threatening people with reports, when you clearly weren't.

Thank you for the kind words, I'm glad you're understanding and believe my story, I really do wish I had the screenshots to prove my team was flaming me. I hope Riot will check the chat logs of this game I really do, my team said extremely harsh things in comparison to what I said which we both see was really not worth a perma ban. Thanks for your support. (Even if it isn't uplifted I'm happy there are logical people still left in this community)

Vistha Kai3 votes

The comparison doesn't matter and you were negative in that game, but I do think, things said here shouldn't be enough to punish somebody.

If they were then I'd get the "A person you reported recently was punished" every single game. And I don't.

Godlike Platypus1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Vistha Kai,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=V4FZjKpm,comment-id=000100010001000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-23T10:43:20.648+0000)

The comparison doesn't matter and you were negative in that game, but I do think things said here shouldn't be enough to punish somebody.

If they were then I'd get the "A person you reported recently was punished" every single game. And I don't.

I respect your honest opinion about this, I completely agree I was being negative this game. Simply having a bad day today and losing my ranked game upset me which happens to most people. I shouldn't have let my team get to me the way they did, I'm glad we agree that this isn't worthy of losing my account. You are a great asset to this community and I hope you never have to deal with anything like this because people like you are what we need in this community. Thank you

NichtHurz5 votes

Ehm, I don't see what you're wondering about.

And by the way...it doesn't matter a single bit what your teammates said. I've been playing since November 2009, I've never had a ban, I've never had a chat restrict and I'm chatting quite a bit in most of my games and it's not like I'm thinking about what I write all the time. If you were in my game and talking like this I'd be so pissed off that you'd get a report for Unsportsmanlike conduct 100%. If your teammates were even worse regarding what they've said they'd get one too.

This is just the same thing I've heard from friends who got banned:" But they were shittalking me all the time/They were so freaking bad/They deserved it etc."

Btw: I was in the tribunal and yeah, I'd vote punish if we still had tribunal.

------> Deserved (especially after a recent 14 days ban)

EvilDustMan4 votes

How long ago was your 14 day ban?

Godlike Platypus1 votes

{quoted}

How long ago was your 14 day ban?

Wasn't that long ago honestly, I didn't even think I was being toxic here. Passive-aggressive at best honestly, but they said way worse things than I did in-game honestly they just all group reported me.

EvilDustMan8 votes

[{quoted}](name=Godlike Platypus,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=V4FZjKpm,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-10-23T09:42:12.462+0000)

Wasn't that long ago honestly, I didn't even think I was being toxic here. Passive-aggressive at best honestly, but they said way worse things than I did in-game honestly they just all group reported me.

  1. Log on your client, it has more chat logs, probably.

  2. You were that way for THE WHOLE GAME, constantly getting on your teammates. Informing them how much better you are. That, shortly after your 14 day ban, means you didn't learn much from your previous punishments.

Godlike Platypus1 votes

{quoted}

  1. Log on your client, it has more chat logs, probably.

  2. You were that way for THE WHOLE GAME, constantly getting on your teammates. Informing them how much better you are. That, shortly after your 14 day ban, means you didn't learn much from your previous punishments.

These were the only chat logs on there, sorry bud I know how you forum people love to see someone get perma banned. Not responding to negative comments anymore have a good day.

EvilDustMan10 votes

[{quoted}](name=Godlike Platypus,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=V4FZjKpm,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-23T09:58:23.944+0000)

These were the only chat logs on there, sorry bud I know how you forum people love to see someone get perma banned. Not responding to negative comments anymore have a good day.

I'm sorry that you came here expecting a safe space, but there you are only going to get truths.

FurriesAreHot2 votes

Whats cute is he downvotes everyone's posts.

Hryna1 votes

So you got repeated feedback that you behavior is not acceptable in many games, decided not to change it, and are surprised that you got punished further.

AraMoOse3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Godlike Platypus,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=V4FZjKpm,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-10-23T09:22:28.839+0000)

Sincerely, A League Player since season 2010 who actually remembers the tribunal when bans were fairly judged.

If you had gotten banned back then, you would have also used the excuse "the tribunal is unfair"

Sincerely, a player who has seen people like you complaining about their perfectly justified bans since 2009.

alucard213832 votes

ill give you a free tip, dont flame. just feed them like them. they will flame you and you can ban them. you dont get banned, when you feed intentional. they call it "bad game" when you are 0-1000 in the first 10 minutes.

Kei1432 votes

NICE !!

you finally get the message that you aren't wanted.

BYE !!

ModPrandine2 votes

Other people have already explained to you why you got banned so I'll just leave these here for you to read. From the Instant Feedback System FAQ:

WHY WAS I PUNISHED WHEN THE OTHER PERSON WAS WORSE OR STARTED IT!

  • Simply speaking, retaliation is not an acceptable or justifiable behavior. An argument between two players can easily create a negative experience for the rest of the players in the game with you. Regardless of the other player’s actions, this does not justify your own behavior. You alone are responsible for your actions within the game. If you encounter a toxic player like this, the best option is to simply report their behavior and move on.
  • Reports are a vital piece to the puzzle. If you are not sure of what sort of behavior is reportable take a look at the Reporting a Player FAQ

From Understanding the Tribunal:

4) That player in my game was far worse than me. Why am I banned??? a) I'll keep this one simple: retaliation isn't OK. Reacting to a toxic player by being toxic just incites that player to be even worse--it also ruins the game for up to 8 other players. It is far, far worse to watch two people yelling at each other all game than it is to watch 1 player ranting into blank space. Almost everyone in the game can find someone out there that behaves worse than they do--but so what? Finding someone worse doesn't justify your behavior or justify retaliation. We expect more out of our players. What players often don't realize is... those other players in your game that you thought were worse? Nearly 100% of the time, those players were banned even before you were. If someone is being toxic, just report them and move on. If you retaliate, both of you will be banned. It's really that simple.

From Riot Tantram:

Actually, Erdrik is correct here.

A report flags a game for review. They do not establish guilt. The game is then reviewed for harassment, feeding, etc. This is why 'troll reporting' or 'gang reporting' do not work. False or inaccurate reports are thrown out.

You cannot ever be punished for saying nothing .. unless of course it's for something gameplay related like feeding, afking or cheating. But, you can never be punished for offensive language, hate speech or verbal abuse if you said nothing.

jpguy9022 votes

People always fail to see that other peoples actions do not excuse their own. Riot doesn't care what your teammates said when it comes to your punishment. You'd probably be okay if you told Trynd he as bad 1 or 2 times but you did excessively throughout the match.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

just stop using chat feature and you cant be banned for flaming ,verbal abuse etc

its simple really

Woodakoodashooda1 votes

Boy, I've been playing this game since S1, off and on, and I might not be good at it, but I know you aren't remembering things correctly.

When the Tribunal was a thing, most members on it clicked the punish button without even bothering to read the cases. Because there were a lot of them.

It was a TL;DR system in which players had more power than they could handle responsibly.

So it was scrapped in favor of an automated and unbiased system that punishes obvious offenses within five minutes of incoming reports. Less obvious cases are reviewed for more severe punishments. And every player has a hidden score that determines if their previous reports are valid or not. This rating stays at or above normal so long as they don't submit too many false reports. So if a trustworthy player with a positive reputation submits an accurate report then the likelihood of a player receiving a just and fair punishment increases.

More from Player Behavior

The indefinite banning of Tyler1
Player Behavior4,799 comments
2,942
votes
14 day ban because playing Nunu Support with Smite is "stealing other people's roles"...?
Player Behavior1,525 comments
1,086
votes
Riot should add monthly status cards
Player Behavior241 comments
843
votes
Reminder that we haven't gotten our Summoner report cards yet :/
Player Behavior145 comments
619
votes
I'm not "triggered" by you throwing insults.
Player Behavior361 comments
548
votes
Black Alistar, King Rammus!!!!
Player Behavior462 comments
503
votes

More by Godlike Platypus

So I guess having a couple of Bad games is worth a 2 Week suspension?
Player Behavior62 comments
18
votes
Riot Ruined League for Me.
Player Behavior44 comments
12
votes