So I guess having a couple of Bad games is worth a 2 Week suspension?

Godlike Platypus·Jul 22, 2016·18 votes·2,083 views

I really don't need to type much here considering my argument is in the support tickets. Please take a look and tell me is this worth a ban? A couple of bad games on league = Trolling if your team reports you. Really flawed system. Here's the links to this matter---

What the Support sent me: https://i.gyazo.com/bb18b90112e4e9dc605adbc7035339ed.png

What I replied: https://i.gyazo.com/fc805906c2e023fb034faf325f74505e.png

Edit: They originally said I was toxic so here's the first replies from support, and me asking for some type of proof. First Support Comment: https://i.gyazo.com/b2f91f3fe9c64f302fa2a75d58014448.png

My response: https://i.gyazo.com/416a4e2ee9bb2ae57516f74589ecfbed.png

62 Comments

nm1010Jul 22, 20165 votes

0/13/4 on sivir in 20 mins 4/13/4 on vayne in 21 mins 0/8/0 on jinx in 12 mins (yes you had an afk in a 3v3 but come on, 8 deaths in 12 mins really?)

There are others too, those are a very high number of deaths in a very short amount of time and I do think that your team is justified in reporting you when you are dying literally every every 50 seconds or something like that (even less time if you factor in minion spawns). If this was a perma I would say overturn it, but you definitely deserve a ban. It isn't that hard to have under double digit deaths in a 20 minute game man.

AnomanderJul 22, 20163 votes

^This

Lord DroversonJul 22, 20162 votes

Considering there are death timers, walking back to lane, and people don't fight till 1:30......to die 13 times in 20 minutes is a difficult task.

Let's say between death timers AND walking back to lane it takes you 1 minute of time. Dying 13 times (1 minute each) and include the 1:30....it leaves you with 5 1/2 minutes (out of 20). So, if you think about it....this person died 13 times in 5 1/2 minutes of true action.

Raven ElizabethJul 22, 20164 votes

I don't know the circumstances surrounding the games you had that were bad, but i have never heard of anyone having a couple bad games and getting a 2 week ban from it. you did the right thing in responding through support. However, whats the purpose of the post? No one can really help with that here.

Godlike PlatypusJul 22, 20161 votes

Well I hope for another Rioter to see this Injustice, I didn't troll at all in my games I normally do really well, right before I got banned I just had a few games I didn't do so hot in and people intentionally reported me for it, atleast I'm assuming so because I don't remember being flamed or anything maybe they just did it in silence. I wasn't trolling at all honestly.

Raven ElizabethJul 22, 20161 votes

Only rioter i see on here normally is Riot Tantrum. He is pretty consistent with this type of thing so i wouldn't be surprised to see him comment on this. no hopes given though.

Koonta KintaeJul 22, 20164 votes

obvious intentional hard feeder detected

10/10 would ban [slayer-jinx-wink]

Deep Terror NamiJul 22, 20163 votes

When they say "pattern of excessive toxicity", they probably don't mean just chat. Toxicity is anything negative, including ping spam, intentional feeding, refusing to participate, or any other kind of trolling. Don't know why you're raising your pitchforks already, though, you haven't even talked to the player behavior specialist he escalated your ticket to yet. If he can determine it was a mistake then it will be removed and you may be compensated.

I await the discussion from the PB specialist before making any assumptions on what you did or did not do or deserve.

AthinaJul 22, 20163 votes

Technically speaking, the first punishment for intentionally feeding is a two week suspension. That said, there seems to be some confusion here with the reasons for the punishment and I don't see anything that looks like intentional feeding in your recent games. For now I would recommend waiting for another response from support and hope they can clarify anything.

Godlike PlatypusJul 22, 20161 votes

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Technically speaking, the first punishment for intentionally feeding is a two week suspension. That said, there seems to be some confusion here with the reasons for the punishment and I don't see anything that looks like intentional feeding in your recent games. For now I would recommend waiting for another response from support and hope they can clarify anything.

To further Add to his comment, Here's my recent games. Does this look like trolling to you board Members? https://i.gyazo.com/ad8e5fc79f968e665a6c5c434820af15.png

SarutobiJul 22, 20162 votes

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To further Add to his comment, Here's my recent games. Does this look like trolling to you board Members? https://i.gyazo.com/ad8e5fc79f968e665a6c5c434820af15.png

To be fair these stats alone cannot be determined as trolling. For all we know you could have done absolutely nothing the entire time you were playing and only buy what seems to be a good build for the champion you were using. Nor does it show other signs of toxic behavior (besides chat) like others have said with spamming, or not participating with the team. You are going to have to show us actual evidence in the mean time hopefully a riot will sorts this out. If you are innocent you will get your account back. If not thanks for wasting our time!

ModAttysu The PoroJul 22, 20161 votes

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To be fair these stats alone cannot be determined as trolling. For all we know you could have done absolutely nothing the entire time you were playing and only buy what seems to be a good build for the champion you were using. Nor does it show other signs of toxic behavior (besides chat) like others have said with spamming, or not participating with the team. You are going to have to show us actual evidence in the mean time hopefully a riot will sorts this out. If you are innocent you will get your account back. If not thanks for wasting our time!

The ban was for intentionally feeding, which, according to his screenshot, he was not. They consider intent feeding a toxic behavior, hence the ticket he mentioned saying he was getting passed to a PB specialist.

Until a PB specialist specifically says if he's guilty or not, I'm inclined to believe this was a mistake, but I could be wrong, I don't work in PB and he coulda been banned for a whole different reason we don't know about.

SarutobiJul 22, 20161 votes

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The ban was for intentionally feeding, which, according to his screenshot, he was not. They consider intent feeding a toxic behavior, hence the ticket he mentioned saying he was getting passed to a PB specialist.

Until a PB specialist specifically says if he's guilty or not, I'm inclined to believe this was a mistake, but I could be wrong, I don't work in PB and he coulda been banned for a whole different reason we don't know about.

If thats the case then its pretty reasonable from those stats that he "Could" have been feeding. Of his deaths whats stopping them from being him getting killed going into lane, and getting killed again? Ya he isnt something like 0/10, but still considering these are Rank matches i would assume they would take stuff like this a little more serious than if it was say Normals!

Still ill agree a PB specialist would be much more helpful as im sure they will have more information than just the match history we are shown!

ModAttysu The PoroJul 22, 20161 votes

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If thats the case then its pretty reasonable from those stats that he "Could" have been feeding. Of his deaths whats stopping them from being him getting killed going into lane, and getting killed again? Ya he isnt something like 0/10, but still considering these are Rank matches i would assume they would take stuff like this a little more serious than if it was say Normals!

Still ill agree a PB specialist would be much more helpful as im sure they will have more information than just the match history we are shown!

Intent feeding would have a pattern outside of one game of high deaths, and that screenshot, even his negative kda win is something I'd do myself on a bad day, and isn't a constant. From what we see, there is no trending evidence/proof that he intent fed, though there are obviously statistics we don't see in Riot's point of view.

Godlike PlatypusJul 22, 20161 votes

Yes, I have literally had under 10 games in total out of the many I've played on this account with 10+ deaths, I am competitive and I occasionally have a bad game like everyone else, There is no toxicity either, I said nothing in chat. I will be posting the reply as soon as I get it.

nm1010Jul 22, 20161 votes

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Yes, I have literally had under 10 games in total out of the many I've played on this account with 10+ deaths, I am competitive and I occasionally have a bad game like everyone else, There is no toxicity either, I said nothing in chat. I will be posting the reply as soon as I get it.

Under 10? Really? https://i.gyazo.com/thumb/200/_6097f4171a9ecbc1018d9e1c059e3e98-png.jpg Thats 7 in the past week, when you were banned for 4 of the days. That isn't occasionally.

Edit: http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Godlike%20Platypus Image came out small so you can easily see the games on op.gg.

JetjoeJul 22, 20161 votes

He had a gold per minute of roughly 300 + per game, which is indicative of a bronze-silver-gold player.

Doesnt look like he did anything wrong to me. His deaths was also quite low, so intentional or not, he wasnt feeding.

ModAttysu The PoroJul 22, 20161 votes

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He had a gold per minute of roughly 300 + per game, which is indicative of a bronze-silver-gold player.

Doesnt look like he did anything wrong to me. His deaths was also quite low, so intentional or not, he wasnt feeding.

I have to agree with that.

Meta PhytonJul 22, 20161 votes

He got points, and minions, and items ... You may not know what these signs obviously point to, but that's only on account of your head. He didn't do anything wrong.

SarutobiJul 22, 20162 votes

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He got points, and minions, and items ... You may not know what these signs obviously point to, but that's only on account of your head. He didn't do anything wrong.

Yes, he has all that, but that doesnt automatically means if he was feeding or not. People just look at the scores when it could be more than just that. People need to look at all the points not just assume he is innocent because she shown "some" game scores. People need to look at more of the games as some have in this thread. Im all for the TC if he is truly innocent, im just trying to look for facts!

DeathBot666Jul 22, 20161 votes

Not to mention that it might be different games he got reported for. Its possible that by the time that riot gets the report, has people investigate it, and decides if he was feeding those games he got reported in were replaced by the games he showed.

DarkRitualJul 22, 20164 votes

Multiple games with no boot upgrades by 30 min. Obvious troll.

You also play Fizz. Ban might be deserved because of that /s

Meta PhytonJul 22, 20161 votes

No it doesn't. I believe you that you weren't doing anything wrong.

edit: I wish that it gets sorted out quickly for you.

Maximum MordeJul 22, 20163 votes

Stopfeeding

Godlike PlatypusJul 22, 20162 votes

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Stopfeeding

And this is the type of person who reports you for having a bad game.

Maximum MordeJul 22, 20163 votes

No, I report everyone every game for made up reasons on the chance that the automated system will find something in their other games that people forgot to report them for. If they are innocent they don't need to worry right?

ThePerson76Jul 22, 20161 votes

That is just wrong.

Godlike PlatypusJul 22, 20161 votes

I'm not even going to respond to trolls, I respect the people with legitimate opinions.

Ok sure but whyJul 23, 20161 votes

Let's just hope he really is a troll.

ThePerson76Jul 23, 20161 votes

This will sound stupid but are u saying that I am a troll?

Slamurai JackJul 22, 20163 votes

Meh, been there, done this. Just wait it out and try to be more careful from now on. And don't try to talk to Riot Support about it; it's a waste of time.

J4 Ulted MexicoJul 22, 20162 votes

-waiting for the tantrum takedown-

Godlike PlatypusJul 22, 20162 votes

Takedown? I have valid evidence here. Good meme. but doesn't help here.

DarkRitualJul 22, 20161 votes

He's referring to Riot Tantrum. He sometimes looks into things and calls people out if they are spouting bs on the boards.

Yaśuo MainJul 24, 20161 votes

tbh, feeding that badly is reasonable for a punishment. especially when you barely even try to stay safe

FiddlesOnTheRoofJul 22, 20162 votes

You posted a bunch of chat logs last week where you were exceedingly toxic....

Godlike PlatypusJul 22, 20161 votes

I never posted any chat logs on this site? Besides the ones you are seeing now. Probably why you put dots because you're falsifying information.

FiddlesOnTheRoofJul 22, 20163 votes

You are lying. You posted three games of chat logs last week complaining about an unfair ban. You threw insults at anyone who disagreed with you.

XidphelJul 22, 20161 votes

Links.

FiddlesOnTheRoofJul 23, 20161 votes

LolLol. He deleted the posts

Godlike PlatypusJul 22, 20162 votes

I was told if I posted the chat logs my privacy rights could be exploited. Basically, They aren't doing anything for me and I assume that means I shouldn't post them. Thank you too all who cared about my situation and for the rest of you, glad you got your daily shunning out of the way. As the instant feedback system would have me say "Consider this request resolved"

scazzmanJul 23, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Godlike Platypus,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EPKQEFlv,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2016-07-22T20:03:11.700+0000)

I was told if I posted the chat logs my privacy rights could be exploited. Basically, They aren't doing anything for me and I assume that means I shouldn't post them. Thank you too all who cared about my situation and for the rest of you, glad you got your daily shunning out of the way. As the instant feedback system would have me say "Consider this request resolved"

while your match history shows you clearly werent feeding. you mentioned in an earlier post having several permabanned accounts. i've heard through deep terror nami "back when she was still blue" and from unconfirmed reports that riot has recently started cracking down on toxic smurfs by punishing people on thier main account if they can positively ID them as a smurf. is it possible you DID feed on a smurf at some point?

Ok sure but whyJul 23, 20162 votes

Boy, I know how you feel. They were quick to act when someone reported me, but they sure didn't feel like responding to any appeal of mine.

Surr20plzJul 23, 20162 votes

Sorry this happened to you.

Funny there's 2 threads about this.

BloodmorneJul 23, 20162 votes

bye bye feeder [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Colgate GatorJul 22, 20161 votes

Although you don't seem to be the usual "omgrito u sux" kind of person. You don't get a ban for 2 "bad games", let alone a 2 weeks one, so all that I have available to believe you is your word (hell, you didn't even post your chat logs, are they that bad or there's no chat logs for feeding bans?).

While I personally don't believe you (most toxicity bans are usually on point), if it truly was a mistake on their end, hope they fix it up, if it wasn't, then take this as your last warning, for the only escalation of a 2 weeks ban is into a permanent one.

Godlike PlatypusJul 22, 20161 votes

Just for this comment I have another screenshot, I never received ANY CHAT LOGS WHAT SO EVER. It simply says Banned until august 1st. I can't even log in to the account. https://i.gyazo.com/e9ccbe5bd4f29accd153aba90f0314e3.png