Idea to Deal with Toxicity.

FreshOutta4Skin·Sep 11, 2016·4 votes·756 views

Everyone has dealt with toxic teammates, and they usually rear their ugliest heads in ranked queues. The issue that we have is the fact that the tribunal has proven to be largely ineffective. Jerks haven't gone down in quantity, but rather doubled.
My proposal is to include an in-game, squelch vote system that would put power into the moment in time that it is needed. Trolls and jerks have to be dealt with on the spot, not 1 week later and on a maybe. Also, I realize that you can mute the individual, but it doesn't attack the problem that they need to be shut down immediately.
The idea is a system of unanimous votes that would then silence the player from chat for the rest of the game. It could be reversed at any time, but it also displayed a written message to all in game that they were squelched. This would kind of prove to be an embarrassment for them and could aid in tribunals. Riot could also implement a ban based on amount of times squelched. Where, if you hit 10 you get dropped into lower priority queues (Which are quite cancerous). Hit 20 in a set period, and you get banned for a week.

The most important part however, is it puts power into the communities hand to deal with the problem on the spot, and to actually bring meaning to the vote they had. If players faced a certain ban for telling someone to kill themselves, they will most likely hold their tongues.
Now I am not saying that this is a bullet proof plan, but something has to change. Riot is a company and companies only increase in value if they continue to grow. League has seen a mass exodus due to the fact that the community is more toxic than Chernobyl. Something has to change, and it has to be something that can be implemented on the spot.

15 Comments

David HallerSep 11, 20163 votes

I've said that banning people for talking shit in video games was a bad idea ever since liberal Riot decided to implement it.

Nobody wants to listen to reasoning and it's not going to get better with the new generation of mutants this society is producing with your safe spaces and gender identity crises.

Not one of these social agenda movements have ever produced positive results because as we all know... The moment you tell people not to do something, that's exactly what they want to do.

And when you start taking away things from people that they've earned and invested in, you're just baiting them to fight back and become even more of a problem because they have nothing else to lose and plenty of free time to do nothing but grief others over their loss.

Literally the dumbest shit this company or any other has ever done or will ever do.

But... you know, would be stupid to stop now. Gotta' braindead our way through to the end and prove that we at least have the spine to stick to our plans regardless of how ineffective they are or what adverse effects they have.

FreshOutta4SkinSep 11, 20164 votes

I am not sure where you are falling in this. I don't believe in banning someone permanently for shit talking in a game, but anyone can admit its getting very old going into a ranked game and watching someone flame the world because jungle got a kill. I think we should pull the power away from the tribunal and turn it into a priority queue system etc. It's not about feelings, its about the game becomes nothing but BS after a flaming troll takes over. It would be nice to be able to embarrass the asshole on the spot instead of being forced to deal with their crap.
Like I said, it isn't perfect, but the flaming trolls are just making the game a chore to play at this point.

David HallerSep 11, 20162 votes

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I am not sure where you are falling in this. I don't believe in banning someone permanently for shit talking in a game, but anyone can admit its getting very old going into a ranked game and watching someone flame the world because jungle got a kill. I think we should pull the power away from the tribunal and turn it into a priority queue system etc. It's not about feelings, its about the game becomes nothing but BS after a flaming troll takes over. It would be nice to be able to embarrass the asshole on the spot instead of being forced to deal with their crap.
Like I said, it isn't perfect, but the flaming trolls are just making the game a chore to play at this point.

You literally said you wanted to ban people in your post.

Permanent or not, banning anyone's account for talking shit is a stupid idea because it's not justified.

"Someone stole an apple! Let's kill him!"

There are chat restrictions for a reason. That's all that's needed. Bans should be for exploits, scripts, cheats, and people intentionally throwing games, not because you don't like what they have to say.

But I do agree that the only way to truly police an online community is to have the community cull itself of bad apples. You can't impose change through authority because peoples' reaction is to rebel.

Once the norm becomes being a better person, others will follow suit or be weeded out through the natural course of adaptation and change.

FreshOutta4SkinSep 11, 20161 votes

like i said... its the idea of it. You can't honestly tell me you are satisfied with the way the community is. It is the number one thing that drives people away from the game.

Banning someone could be a final result. It may be stupid, but if they just flat aren't getting it, then they are also stupid and deserve a stupid response.

The main issue I am trying to address is the fact that these flaming idiots are destroying any fun the game possesses. Especially in ranked. The tribunal doesn't accomplish anything.

David HallerSep 11, 20161 votes

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like i said... its the idea of it. You can't honestly tell me you are satisfied with the way the community is. It is the number one thing that drives people away from the game.

Banning someone could be a final result. It may be stupid, but if they just flat aren't getting it, then they are also stupid and deserve a stupid response.

The main issue I am trying to address is the fact that these flaming idiots are destroying any fun the game possesses. Especially in ranked. The tribunal doesn't accomplish anything.

First, there were chat restrictions. Second, there were suspensions. Third, there were permanent bans. Fourth, they decided to strip away seasonal rewards from "bad apples."

The result?

More toxic players.

Now you just suggested, again, after acknowledging that none of this worked and only increased the amount of toxic players in the community... that we should ban the most toxic players.

Tell me what sense that makes.

CystSep 11, 20162 votes

Using the word "Toxic" to describe human beings is "Toxic"

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

David HallerSep 11, 20162 votes

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Using the word "Toxic" to describe human beings is "Toxic"

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

Too late to get rid of it now, unfortunately.

It's the go-to parroting for anything people despise with this game.

Even worse, seeing it carried into other game communities.

GlowdustSep 11, 20162 votes

"Someone stole an apple! Let's kill him!"

Guess what they do in some countries if you get caught stealing.....good luck playing league with one hand.

XerShadeSep 11, 20161 votes

First: Mute, Button. Second: Report, Button.

FreshOutta4SkinSep 11, 20161 votes

It doesn't change anything. I tested it, I spent 2 months on a random account, going into games and doing nothing but trolling and flaming.
Garnished a ton of reports. Never got punished.
Afkd from a few games and got leaver bustered.
Tribunal doesn't do jack.

XerShadeSep 11, 20161 votes

It does, the children who boasted about probably forgot or did not care. Also there are MILLIONS of accounts. I got a chat restriction from a game for "feeding" when I was LEVEL TWO. And yes it was only one game and yes i was LEVEL TWO.

KarunamonSep 11, 20163 votes

You did not get a chat restriction for feeding.

XerShadeSep 12, 20161 votes

Uh I did the chat logs were empty on my part, keep in mind this is back in Season 1 when tribunal handled all punishments and pretty much any non-severe case gave out restrictions.

We didn't have any of this new fangled punishment tier system like there is now, back then it was more warnings and only extreme toxicity cases were given bans.

KarunamonSep 12, 20161 votes

It doesn't even make any kind of sense that feeding would be punished with a chat restriction, is what I'm saying. Are you sure it wasn't for something else?

XerShadeSep 14, 20161 votes

Only thins was that one game, no chat from me, however my entire team pulling the feeding BS might have had the tribunal member reviewing it think it was.

Either way it was years ago on a level two summoner level game. Don't really care about it anymore. My original point was there is a backlog. Stuff from LEVEL TWO came back and hit me when I was 30 .