PSA: The philosophy of self-defense does not apply to League of Legends chat

Verxint·4/20/2017, 7:20:35 PM·27 votes·1,910 views

Why is self-defense a thing in a courtroom, anyway?

Simple: Because you don't have a choice about whether or not that guy's fist is going to hit your face. Specifically, there are no actions you can take, other than fighting back, that can prevent the imminent injury to yourself. Self-defense is valid in a courtroom because it is the only mechanism by which you can protect yourself from physical injury. The only options you have to defend yourself from harm involve inflicting harm upon another.

In League of legends, any chat messages you read, you read willfully and with full compliance. You are choosing to read them. You can choose not to read them, without having any affect on the person sending them. You can mute the person without having any effect on them. You can defend yourself from harm without inflicting harm upon another. There's no reason to engage the person as "self-defense" when you can achieve the same result with a unilateral action.

tl;dr You cannot mute a fist. You can mute chat.

49 Comments

Marshbouy4/20/2017, 9:59:29 PM9 votes

Obligatory: Freedom of speech is not freedom to call someone a f%%

9Wly9oMl024/20/2017, 10:15:17 PM4 votes

Hm. I think I understand your point, but the way you give it is very poorly done. Instead of focusing on "their actions don't excuse yours", you chose to go the route of "you don't have to read the messages". Which, is true, but it's pretty similar to saying "well that lady that was raped didn't have to go out and walk alone".

AirKingNeo4/20/2017, 10:14:42 PM2 votes

Your argument almost made logical sense. Seriously, pretty well done except for this one problem. You failed to take human emotion and interaction into consideration. People have emotions, some pride and others anger, and trying to say, "Just mute the chat," is extremely illogical when you take the fact that people have emotions. You can't just expect people to just 'Mute the chat' because no person would just let themselves be attacked and not fight back. People defending themselves is a very natural thing; attempting to ignore this, especially in a game made for young people, makes no logical sense.

In no way do I defend the guy the guy who flames a guy because I flame him. This of course this assumes the intent to flame and not just simple rage. I sympathize with him to a point, but just that, a point. In addition, there is a huge difference between arguments and flame wars. A flame war is just people flaming each other just to anger each other or self gratification. An argument is just the clash of ideals to prove something; they bring about the truth or an understanding between people if they complete with resolution. There is a huge difference between the man who called to stupid because you said or did something stupid than the guy who told you, "Get cancer %%%got."

Eventually, you'll have to understand that people are people and will act like people. Trying to deny that people shouldn't act like people breaks all logic.

6Sfool4/21/2017, 7:23:30 AM2 votes

So in life we're not allowed to call people out for being an asshole? They weren't physically hurting anyone.

DeathBot6664/21/2017, 1:39:34 AM1 votes

You cannot mute a fist.

I mute this fist...

#With a BIGGER fist.

Neamean4/21/2017, 6:40:37 AM1 votes

Kassadin I tried to muting a fist once. Boy, did I regret that.

Salson4/21/2017, 1:57:59 PM1 votes

It should be ban worthy yes, but to be fair some people (me included) don't report retaliation flame. And no matter what you say if u don't get reported you wont get banned.

Warlord Scrap4/20/2017, 7:35:56 PM1 votes

Not to play devils advocate but that assumes people only flame in retaliation for written flame and not for int feeding, trolling or ping/mastery spam. In every except a flame war you have no options other than let them continue and keep your mouth shut. you cant mute their pings or emotes and you cant stop trolls. If you leave the game your punished so you must waste time finishing out the game.

JRobin314/22/2017, 2:25:51 AM1 votes

RIPLEY says, "What a strange game. The only way to win is not to play."

Isedelica4/20/2017, 8:33:13 PM1 votes

and be not conformed to this world but be ye transformed by the renewing of the mind and what is right and just before GOD

I do not conform so I am not under the governments laws plus there occult in nature so why listen to them in the first place lol

eazymakaveli34/20/2017, 8:58:35 PM1 votes

come on. words dont hurt unless ur a pvssy.

Master Vemira4/20/2017, 9:30:03 PM1 votes

it's a logical fallacy, the game does not allow you to go into every game with chat instantly muted and disabled by choice from the get go, so NO, you are not given a choice to NOT read the chat, as most "toxic" players would GLADLY just disable chat completely, so special sjw snowflakes can troll without repercussions. "it's just a game" so let us willfully opt out of chat completely