A Premade Team + You

Hazardus ducees··1 votes·1,063 views

Hello everyone, Haz here and before I dive into the issue created by a group of 3 reporting you from the same game, I would just like for others to know that I have become a bit more salty over this patch and it has shown drastically compared to 2012, when I first joined league. First off, I 100% understand being salty is not sportsman like and would like everyone to know that people like me in particular who are salty, more likely have a solid reason for it and it will always show somewhere because lets face it, that's the gamer's community. Lets begin, shall we?

Okay. Well just reciently I played a Summoner's Rift Normal (Draft Mode) game, going in alone thinking I was going to have a good time. I get paired with a crew filled with absolute silence as I go a champion who feels valid for a change. Right at the get go, getting ready for blue buff I get about 2k ms ping (and constant up until about 14 minuets in.) and I show my teammates in the chat. Right there and then 3 of them started to go off at me. "OMG, remake" Remake. Remake." I only hoped I did DC from the server so they could... After I accuire a sucessful leash and thanking them, I managed to back after clearing my entire jungle with an aditional gromp and granting bottom lane scuttle twice as they have given kai' sa 2 kills during that time... After clearing my entire jungle, I decided to try and invade so I can stunt Camille's growth and so I can gank or provide lane pressure when she's busy. From what I've seen, League hasn't quite found a fix for the harsh lag just yet. (I'm giving it time, because I know they'll get around it like they always do. faith) By the time I reached the enemy's Raptors (Which were there), Heimerdinger alerted his team. 4 of his teammates came after me. I'm stuck near red buff nearing 3k ms ping and out of nowhere a cluster of "MIA", "Danger" and "Be careful" pings from every lane goes off simutaneously. Next thing you know, Heim and Camile randomly popped up on my screen nearing me, so I went to a secondary escape route near the Wivern (dragon), out of nowhere, there's Kai' sa and Lulu killing me in the process. Brand on my team curses me out, "What the f*%k are you doing? I pinged like 3 times. You're a feeder." I told him, "Lay off. There was nothing I could do. I died only once. I'll end up winning you guys them the game, so chill.". No one came to help my situation, but 4 of the enemy did. Half of my mistake could have also been my team's lead as well. considering their picks. Instead brand insisted on calling me a feeder and a cry baby when all I was doing was trying to defend myself. So I muted him. Next thing you know, he goes into all chat, (wait... why isn't that also muted?) and starts telling everyone that I'm lagging, I'm bad, I'm feeding and I'm a cry baby. After that, the other team would never leave me alone, I found a way to get ahead because of it as well. Though, that was also with a cost. 8 deaths and bard midlane, Vayne with Brand also calling me a feeder. I aplaud wukong. He was able to identify, that brand was harrassing a teammember and everyone else just joined him because of the premade 3 man skew.

My lag finally stopped and I managed to take top's first turret Wukong couldn't at the 19 minuet marker. At about 22:50, I got bot lane's first turret. 25 minuets in, I unmuted Brand to give him a second chance at team co -op. Oh boy that was a mistake. I was split pushing bot lane, when I saw mini map go empty of the enemy so I headed mid where the rest of my team was at. A team fight broke out and I came in for the pentakill. The only mistake was letting brand live as he purposely stole the 5th kill after Heim finished his Zhonya's. 2 team members resurrected and Brand was calling me stupid because I was choosing end game over baron. I got first base tower, inhibitor, last nexus tower, then they killed baron, and then as second in a half, I ended them the game. Boy... I did not want to be in there any longer than I had to be. Everything was getting out of hand and sooner or later I would have to end up muting Brand all over again adding Vayne and Bard to the list.

So the reason why I am telling you the recap of this game was because I am now reprimanding from their invalid reports. Here is the Match history for more detail. (https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2827394149/50814937?tab=overview ) I'm pretty sure thousands of others are constantly getting bullied by people in these 3 man premade trio who abuse the power of a report; A "toxic trio" is what I call it. I will admit, what I did in that game was of course not 100% sportsman like, I understand, but a good 85% of it was. If this is how "players FOUND within toxicity" are treated, but pay absolutely no mind to the power of a 3 man or even a 4 man , then I see no reason as to why people would ever want to be "The good guy". Because like everything else, "The good guy never wins."

Please someone, Rioteers, anyone. Look into this. I feel so screwed and so bad for everyone else going through this corrupt issue/system.
"Down with bubbles, up with air"

9 Comments

Chermorg6 votes

Premades do not have report power. Any reports in a game (from anyone - teammates or enemies) past one are thrown out. The system does not factor number of reports into anything - beyond saying "if player was reported at least once, review behavior".

Beyond that, your behavior is what leads to a punishment or a pardon. Behavior that is unacceptable is always unacceptable, with the one minor exception being a 5 man premade. It does not matter if you're with all random teammates or a premade - if it's not okay, it doesn't suddenly become okay because you're being toxic to a premade.

I encourage you to post your chat logs if you need further information on why you were punished. You can find them either upon logging into the client or contacting Riot Support.

Hazardus ducees2 votes

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Premades do not have report power. Any reports in a game (from anyone - teammates or enemies) past one are thrown out. The system does not factor number of reports into anything - beyond saying "if player was reported at least once, review behavior".

Beyond that, your behavior is what leads to a punishment or a pardon. Behavior that is unacceptable is always unacceptable, with the one minor exception being a 5 man premade. It does not matter if you're with all random teammates or a premade - if it's not okay, it doesn't suddenly become okay because you're being toxic to a premade.

I encourage you to post your chat logs if you need further information on why you were punished. You can find them either upon logging into the client or contacting Riot Support.

Thank you. This really concerned me. As usually I play many, many games and never have I actually had any inside information/knowledge about what is considered toxic or salty. I just call myself that because I find myself cursing at myself or getting really angry within the game. Most of the time I lash out at myself and feel hopelessly stuck because I'm heavily surrounded by things which gets one extremely frustrated. Recently, I've been playing Bots to cool down in just because of it. Thank you again for your immediate response. If you could teach me where to go for my chat logs as these were prolonged within a game and I didn't know if it held any validity. Plus, if you can show me what I can do to improve, I would gladly appreciate it. Honestly, if league could implement a way to stop chat within game, I would gladly keep it on all the time so I can get away from it completely.

Hazardus ducees1 votes

Game 1 Pre-Game Hazardus ducees: barbaqueue Hazardus ducees: Sauce In-Game Hazardus ducees: nnooooo this game took me the wrong rune Hazardus ducees: please Hazardus ducees: damn Hazardus ducees: i'm not duo tho.. Hazardus ducees: ty Hazardus ducees: hmm Hazardus ducees: game bugged out Hazardus ducees: oh wow.. the PBE is updateing too.. surprise Hazardus ducees: whelp.. ok Hazardus ducees: lag Hazardus ducees: I'm not going in until I hit 6.. I could have had them tho Hazardus ducees: yeah.. too late Hazardus ducees: Its called invading Hazardus ducees: but you know.. your pings happened the moment I saw them Hazardus ducees: so shut up Hazardus ducees: half of my death could have been your gain Hazardus ducees: says brand with a tear.. Hazardus ducees: That's what you are doing... not me. I'm just stating and defending myself Hazardus ducees: muted Hazardus ducees: huh.. Hazardus ducees: ok Hazardus ducees: out of nowhere Hazardus ducees: That Polly morph Hazardus ducees: could have won that.. Hazardus ducees: whelp Hazardus ducees: that hitbox is broken Hazardus ducees: I dodged that like a mofo Hazardus ducees: brand, the piece of work. nice Hazardus ducees: no wonder vayne can't do anything Hazardus ducees: I'm not feeding. I just had bad ping early game Hazardus ducees: and joke brand won't let that go. Hazardus ducees: neither can you.. Hazardus ducees: When soon can't come earlier though.. Hazardus ducees: When you're the jungler, gets nagged about feeding and yet has more gold than most of the team Hazardus ducees: I know.. That's why brand needs to chill Hazardus ducees: best brand NA. Hazardus ducees: goes in only when I'm dead, steals a kill with r instead of when there is multiple targets.. Hazardus ducees: you know.. Hazardus ducees: the list Hazardus ducees: just keeps going... Hazardus ducees: lmao Hazardus ducees: and I'll carry to win Hazardus ducees: like always Hazardus ducees: Thanks wu. Like I said. I'll just end up winning us the game and these salty bois will just report me either way Hazardus ducees: So it doesnt' matter Hazardus ducees: I muted them. Hazardus ducees: in every way. Hazardus ducees: takes my penta.. of course Hazardus ducees: told ya I'd carry for the win Hazardus ducees: GG Post-Game Hazardus ducees: Please report brand, vayne, and bard. They're all toxic and kept calling me "shit" Hazardus ducees: and kept harassing me Hazardus ducees: I told them that I'll end up being the one who wins them the game.. Hazardus ducees: they just kept on at it. Hazardus ducees: This kind of ignorance should not be tolerated. Hazardus ducees: Wu was like the only good one here..

ModWulf Helhammer4 votes

Multiple reports in a game have no more weight than a single one.

It is designed that way precisely to guard against bully reporting.

Hazardus ducees2 votes

[{quoted}](name= Król Wilk Sam,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TfbVlXky,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-07-17T03:49:36.255+0000)

Multiple reports in a game have no more weight than a single one.

It is designed that way precisely to guard against bully reporting.

Wow thank you. This also relieves some of the stress this game gives me. I just don't get how everyone can be "hunky dory" over a competitive game. The environment is completely backwards to me. The rules are not exactly shared to the public as I thought they would be. They're soo deep. Why aren't these declared rules and so forth found on or within the client?

Voldymort2 votes

The rules are not exactly shared to the public as I thought they would be. They're soo deep. Why aren't these declared rules and so forth found on or within the client?

Because they are on the website in plain view:

https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752884-Reporting-a-Player

THINGS TO AVOID

  • Do not threaten or repeatedly tell a player you will report them. Doing so can encourage players who are already negative to continue their behavior. Whether they know they are being reported or not has no bearing to whether the system will act on them. But most importantly, repeatedly threatening or arguing with a negative player can end up derailing the game for everyone else and then open yourself up to reports and possible disciplinary action as well. Avoid negative thoughts and useless chatting with poor performing teammates! Focus on victory by muting the offending player and then reporting them at the end of the game.

  • Do not ask other players in the match to report the offending player. It only takes one report for our systems to review a game. Additional reports will not do anything for the offending player; however as mentioned above, it could open yourself up to a report of your own; especially if you are derailing the match by constantly demanding reports of other players.

  • Negative behavior is unacceptable regardless of the circumstances or who started it. It can be tempting to respond to negative players with negativity of your own. Our systems do not care who started the behavior and will treat each reported player based off the merits of their own case. The only way to handle these types of players is to mute them and continue playing the game followed by giving them a report at the end of the match.

Hazardus ducees1 votes

Thank you

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