Wow a new low for players

Mithros13··1 votes·1,867 views

Wow, I mean I already have a pretty well justified low opinion of the overall League community given the frequency and severity of trolls and terrible people (about 20-40% based on available in-game data), but I just got out of a game with two people that hit such a new low that I feel like it should be shared. Keep in mind that this is a new low over the usual griefing, racism, homophobia, wishes for suicide, etc. that I'm sure you've all seen on a daily basis in League. I actually ran out of room in the report tab just trying to list it all in the description and had a hard time picking only 3 checkboxes for the reports.

There's the normal troll stuff, a trio in ranked flex, one starts by intentionally banning a teammate's champion (always a good start), the other tried to steal mid, and bragged about how this wasn't their main account so they could troll and do whatever they wanted and it wouldn't really matter. Of course they proceed to call for reports in all chat once the game started and pretended that the actual mid laner (me) was stealing the lane, then tried to lend credence for false reports by both of them saying it. Eventually that fails too, so they afk and disconnect after feeding a few times (yes both of them ragequit, first one for a period of time, then both). At this point the adc who was grouped with them (but not trolling, pretty quiet most of the game) and was apparently in a third party chat with them and claims that they weren't intentionally disconnecting but that their computers disconnected them (remember that part, it will be important later). Seemed pretty doubtful but meh.

Nothing unusual for League yet I know, most of you have probably had a game or two today that went exactly like this, don't worry it gets worse. At this point we're still managing to actually hold our own in a 3v5 (I was playing wukong and actually having a good game otherwise, and the botlane was doing alright as well). They come back eventually (one about 5-10 minutes later, the other 15+ minutes later) and realize we haven't lost yet, so, not realizing that their trio partner tried to cover for them in chat by saying that their computers disconnected them, make up a story about how they have a sick mother in the hospital with a brain tumor that for some reason they can only speak to for 15 minutes at exactly 1:30am, then start trying to attack everyone else for calling them out on their toxic behavior by using their made up story as a shield, then spent the rest of the game feeding and being toxic.

Aside from the fact that the adc had already told a different story, and the idea making zero sense anyway (lots of inconsistencies with the way hospitals work, particularly with something like that), just made it one of the most disgusting lies I've ever heard in League. Who makes up a story about their mother having a brain tumor just to get away with being terrible people in an online game?? Everyone who's played League for more than a month has gotten used to shrugging off people spamming profanity/racism/etc. and trying to troll others to take advantage of Riot's poor penalty system, but this was just a new low. Just completely devoid of morals to the point where I question if they're a threat to themselves and those around them physically.

Honestly I hope Riot reviews the chat log and ID bans them both, but I suspect if previous experience is any indication absolutely nothing will be done about it.

11 Comments

Aneirin2 votes

How would they ID ban them?

Mithros131 votes

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How would they ID ban them?

Not sure but apparently they have some method. IP addresses maybe? They could gather identifying information from the account to determine the rest of their accounts and ban them all.

Aneirin3 votes

IP address would punish anyone on the same internet connection

Mithros131 votes

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IP address would punish anyone on the same internet connection

That would be in the same household yes. Though an ID ban in general would probably end up doing the same. Still, that's unlikely to affect more than one or two other people, who could then try to disassociate themselves with that person. Given that both of the trolls claimed to be brothers, chances are the ID ban would hit both of them and only them.

Aneirin2 votes

Sucks if they live in a boarding house or anything similar though... guess everyone living there just has to move out if they want to play league.

Mithros131 votes

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Sucks if they live in a boarding house or anything similar though... guess everyone living there just has to move out if they want to play league.

The flak they would catch for getting the entire house banned would certainly be an added bonus as a penalty for stooping to such despicable behavior. The others could eventually get their accounts back possibly, but the ones that did it would not only be banned, but in deep trouble with their housemates for making them go through all that.

Kei1432 votes

Btw, in regards to verbal punishments, the automated system is pretty good at identifying and punishing people.

It just does a horrible job in letting you that someone got punished. So it makes tou feel that its doing nothing.

HommeGoujon2 votes

I reported a troll and I got the instant feedback message after the next game. The system actually works. To answer your question, they have a procedure about punishments so, depending on what punishment they've received so far, they could get temp banned/chat suspended or perm banned.

Mithros131 votes

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I reported a troll and I got the instant feedback message after the next game. The system actually works. To answer your question, they have a procedure about punishments so, depending on what punishment they've received so far, they could get temp banned/chat suspended or perm banned.

The system occasionally works. However obviously nowhere near often enough or there wouldn't be so many toxic people still playing. Some, like the ones in this past game, make accounts specifically so they can be toxic to other players without consequence. Riot could really put their foot down and put an end to it, but I suspect that they don't because trolls pay for skins and boosts too, so they'd rather have a toxic community than a slightly lower bottom line.

RxO Carmada2 votes

Before I even started reading this i saw this

League community given the frequency and severity of trolls and terrible people (about 20-40% based on available in-game data)

Interesting that you're trying to make a rant post or offer advice or whatever yet you're throwing out fake statistics to catch people's attention. Riot doesn't release the statistics of trolls in games, and without riot releasing statistics, nobody knows.

Mithros131 votes

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Before I even started reading this i saw this

Interesting that you're trying to make a rant post or offer advice or whatever yet you're throwing out fake statistics to catch people's attention. Riot doesn't release the statistics of trolls in games, and without riot releasing statistics, nobody knows.

It's based on personal data I started gathering. Nobody knows the global total, however after Riot started making claims that seemed patently false, I started taking stats on lost games and noted the average number of toxic players on the team. In virtually 100% of lost games that I've played there have been at least one person being toxic, usually two. For that to happen that consistently there would need to be at least 20-40% of people who are toxic in-game on a regular basis when they lose, hence my numbers. Is that the exact percentage globally? Perhaps not, but it's been my experience and it's matched up with the general memories of everyone I know that plays the game. Which is why I noted that this conclusion was "based on the available data".

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