Just got hit with leaverbuster for leaving a game with intentional feeder AMA

Tobias Etoile·Jul 29, 2016·2 votes·3,435 views

Leave one game with trolls who won't ff and punished. Yet, people can troll and ruin games w/o recourse.

35 Comments

NautodayJul 29, 20169 votes

Well, you left the game.

Tobias EtoileJul 29, 20161 votes

My issue is I'm punished for leaving 1 game but people are allowed to intentionally ruin games w/o punishment.

They are doing it in groups to prevent FF's as well. They should have stricter penalties for griefing premades.

NautodayJul 29, 20164 votes

Well, you didn't even stay to report them. All it takes it was report for Riot's system to take a gander.

You both deserve to be punished.

Tobias EtoileJul 29, 20162 votes

Agreeing with that. The issue is griefers aren't being punish after multiple instances.

You are expected to stay hostage to griefers in a game while being punished for getting away for it. Yet, they are allowed to continue you griefing at their leisure.

RiotRiot TantramJul 29, 201613 votes

The problem with this is the person you are referring to was not intentionally feeding. They were having a bad game. They were still trying until the end. You wanted to FF @20 because you thought the person lost the game singlehandedly. When the team wouldn't FF you went AFK.

We all have bad games. Someone having a bad game does not make it acceptable to AFK.

scazzmanJul 29, 20165 votes

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The problem with this is the person you are referring to was not intentionally feeding. They were having a bad game. They were still trying until the end. You wanted to FF @20 because you thought the person lost the game singlehandedly. When the team wouldn't FF you went AFK.

We all have bad games. Someone having a bad game does not make it acceptable to AFK.

looking at the guy's match history. playing rammus top with teleport ghost and going 0/8/2 is VERY suspicious, it's entirely possible he was legitly feeding, but just pretending to be a bad player to avoid being caught by the system

Kei143Jul 30, 20162 votes

whats wrong with teleport ghost on rammus?

its the ultimate flanking setup post 20 mins.

That move speed is faster than Kled's ult, which already covers 1/2 a map in 3 seconds.

ghood4lifeJul 30, 20162 votes

Kled + Rammus + Sivir + Hecarim + Karma =new meta

Kei143Jul 30, 20161 votes

unfortunately, people's movespeed can not be increased / decreased while in kled's ult. The move speed is just set and capped at a certain number.

But of course sivir ult can still used once they arrive at the destination.

That is according to what the designer said on the Kled PBE Gameplay stream.

Too bad I wasn't paying attention to what movespeed it was capped at.

Shrek LuigiJul 30, 20161 votes

Kled + Anivia + Quinn + Fiddlesticks + Azir = new birb champ meta go getm my avian bretheren

The Blue RajahAug 1, 20161 votes

Where's swain?

Nik NikersonAug 1, 20161 votes

Banned.

scazzmanJul 30, 20161 votes

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That move speed is faster than Kled's ult, which already covers 1/2 a map in 3 seconds.

my point exactly. it can just as easily be used to intentionally feed

Kei143Jul 30, 20161 votes

By that logic, everything can be used to intentionally feed.

Even your standard Heal x Flash on ADCs, Hecarim / Tahm Kench / Ryze Ults, even regular mouse clicks.

SmokedAlmondsJul 30, 20164 votes

And when the best you can do is get to "very suspicious" you do nothing.

It is entirely possible that they were just pretending(maybe even likely), but if you can't determine it for sure that doesn't matter. People really need to wrap their heads around the fact that if you can't be pretty close to 100% sure then the correct response is to do nothing. If you can't prove they are troll you have to treat them as if they aren't. But really for players whether or not they are trolling doesn't change anything anyway. AFKing isn't an acceptable response to a troll existing or a bad player.

Kei143Jul 30, 20161 votes

question though tantrum, how did he get leaver bustered if his AFK was true to 1 game as he claims?

Is he lying to us, or is there some other hidden system I'm not understanding / don't know?

Would you be able to clarify, or is this information classified within the privacy act?

Koonta KintaeJul 30, 20161 votes

But it does entitle teammates to keep you #heldhostage to the conclusion of said game even when it's OBVIOUSLY going to be a loss, but they'll drag it out for an extra 10-25 minutes?

Stasis691Jul 30, 20162 votes

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The problem with this is the person you are referring to was not intentionally feeding. They were having a bad game. They were still trying until the end. You wanted to FF @20 because you thought the person lost the game singlehandedly. When the team wouldn't FF you went AFK.

We all have bad games. Someone having a bad game does not make it acceptable to AFK.

Wow you have some nerve.

This is the same guy who literally replied to me on the boards and told me I'm an intentional feeder and troll and I uploaded all of my games with video proof that I was literally not at any point throwing or feeding on purpose and then you're going to defend other players and just write it off as "they were having a bad game?"

How does anybody take you people serious?

RiotRiot TantramAug 1, 201614 votes

You were punished through manual review, and not by myself. You wrote in to appeal your case, someone reviewed it again, and it was confirmed. You then posted on the forums, I manually reviewed it a third time, and confirmed it again. You have posted in every post of mine since then.

You are welcome to open another player support case if you'd like.

AramsAreBestAug 1, 20161 votes

I also watched the games and I am wondering where you got proof of intentional feeding?

Stasis691Aug 8, 20162 votes

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You were punished through manual review, and not by myself. You wrote in to appeal your case, someone reviewed it again, and it was confirmed. You then posted on the forums, I manually reviewed it a third time, and confirmed it again. You have posted in every post of mine since then.

You are welcome to open another player support case if you'd like.

And you are a liar and your company is full of liars and cheats. I've posted in every post of yours since then? This is the utter garbage I'm talking about.

But that's this community's problem, not mine. It's a good thing you get to do this from behind a screen because I bet it would be tough saying most of this crap to someone's face with a straight face.

GankRivenAug 8, 20161 votes

learn to spot a troll in game. you call the int. feeders, players having a bad game and the players having a bad game int feeders. get your facts strait.

Maximum MordeJul 29, 20164 votes

Are you going to vote for Hillary or Trump?

Tobias EtoileJul 29, 20164 votes

Going 3rd party b/c they both scary me. It's like a bad joke but it is somehow reality.

Sanders would have easily won if it was for Democrats acting against him on behalf of Hilary.

ghood4lifeJul 30, 20162 votes

Hop on the train man.

Kei143Jul 29, 20163 votes

How many games did you just click around in the fountain actiing you are not AFK to fool the system?
What do you define as a troll ?
Do you really believe that Riot doesn't punish the ones that need to be punished?
If you answered yes to Q3, why do you feel that way?

AramsAreBestJul 29, 20161 votes

I'll answer number 3. Because ive seen players with hundreds of losses on 1 champion and 0 wins.

Tobias EtoileJul 29, 20161 votes

It's like everyone who defends intentional griefing makes me think they are those ppl.

Tobias EtoileJul 29, 20162 votes

None. Started ranked yesterday with you responding to something yesterday. I detested the idea but with so many ppl doing it and they wouldn't ff. Not stressing the grief.
Intentionally feeding or purposely losing games. 8 deaths pre 20 b/c you keep running through minions to the turret.
Yes, I do.
From all of the this DQ bs my friends have told me about. From what I've seen premades can do what they want w/o repercussions. Also, friends have shown me how to track players match history.

For example, my plat 5 and golds that were intentionally losing games to silvers yesterday. You can look to see that Plat 5 continued playing ranked and losing games horribly to people tiers below them. The plat player has great KDA's on the year except where he is playing with his club goldies that I witnessed. They then have multiple sub 1.0 kda's against silver players while doing no damage while playing carries.

Tobias EtoileJul 29, 20161 votes

After I left, they continued to play for over 5 mins longer. I still ended the game with the most kills and kill participation (I was at 80%) on my team.

I played my heart out and they fucked me over. It's less grief on me to get away. They wouldn't FF b/c they felt it's up to me to carry their troll asses. I gave them the loss by leaving that they deserved.

Scary DoorJul 30, 20163 votes

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Leave one game with trolls who won't ff and punished. Yet, people can troll and ruin games w/o recourse.

Calling bullshit. You don't get a Leaverbuster penalty for leaving ONE game.

Sorry, that's not how the system works.

Nik NikersonAug 1, 20161 votes

If you leave a ranked game, doesn't the system prevent you from joining another game for a certain amount of time? I can't remember what the exact time is, as it's been a long time since I dodged a ranked game.

TheSequelsRBadJul 29, 20162 votes

On a scale of 1 to 10, how would you rate your pain?

balbraakselJul 30, 20162 votes

It's possible to win any match, sometimes it's just likelier or much more unlikely to happen. Often players just ruin any chances of winning just because they lost hope of winning and it seems you're one of them. No match is lost until it's actually really lost and if you still lose you've had fun, tried your best, learned to formulate strategies with how to deal with such a situation and seen if they worked or not given the matchup.