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Seriously Riot... not reportable.

W3X70N··1 votes·1,841 views

This is what I got chat banned for.

Game 1 TL;DR: I had a bit of lag and I was doing my best but they all were shitting on me and asking the other team to report me)

W3X70N: im going to be at a constant lag this game W3X70N: that's not how it works W3X70N: I can't control that my computer laggs one game out of 100 W3X70N: ducking relax everyone W3X70N: Oh thanks, I have no idea how to spell compooder W3X70N: please tell me how I'm trolling W3X70N: you guys don't sound like you have very many friends W3X70N: having a constant lag of 300ms constitutes as trolling apparently. W3X70N: If you say so man. W3X70N: anyway, I'm getting reported for trying my best with 300 ms, so I'm just going to afk and earn the reports im getting W3X70N: might as well W3X70N: gg! W3X70N: you sound mad W3X70N: are you mad? W3X70N: 1/3/1 tf W3X70N: you're bad dude W3X70N: 1/4/1 TF wooooooow W3X70N: he's mad because he sucks :( W3X70N: I love how I just have lag, and you all gang up and make me out to be this huge asshole. It's awesome. W3X70N: I didn;t make sivir do anything, I was doing my best with lag. W3X70N: she left all on her own. But please, everyone, go ahead and report me W3X70N: I did nothign wrong, and whne your reports are reviewed and they see that, your reports mean less inthe future W3X70N: because you;re flagged as a constant reporter

Game 2 TL;DR: Someone picked Mundo mid because they said "I don't feel like playing" so we were trying to get him to go bot, and he was running in and dying on purpose.

W3X70N: it doesn't work like that W3X70N: he's connected W3X70N: still doesn't work like that W3X70N: We still don't get to remake W3X70N: idk what you don't get W3X70N: WE W3X70N: CAN W3X70N: NOT W3X70N: REMAKE W3X70N: BECAUSE W3X70N: WE W3X70N: ALL W3X70N: CONNECTED W3X70N: Mundo just go bot and support W3X70N: Mundo W3X70N: im taking your lane W3X70N: go bot W3X70N: mundo stay bot W3X70N: OMFG W3X70N: MUNDO W3X70N: JUST STAY BOT W3X70N: All you're doing mundo is feeding W3X70N: go W3X70N: bot W3X70N: NO MUNDO W3X70N: YOU ARE THE ONE W3X70N: WHO IS 1/3 W3X70N: Sorry we;re trying to get mundo to go bot but he;'s retarded W3X70N: this whole game is goen W3X70N: mundo mid fucked us W3X70N: he's just trolling im muting him W3X70N: he's still trolling W3X70N: see> W3X70N: mundo why did you even load this game W3X70N: you're a really shitty person W3X70N: no I'm someone who has a life, and hates it when someone wastes 20 minutes of it for no reason W3X70N: clearly you have nothing better to do W3X70N: he's trolling on purpose dude W3X70N: just leave it be W3X70N: play it out until it;s voer W3X70N: Mundo is the only one intentionally feeding WW. Get over yourself. We've just given up. W3X70N: whatever W3X70N: juke city W3X70N: does it look like we're trying. Mundo is intentionally feeding, and also trolling chat. W3X70N: this game was over before it started. W3X70N: ww we were done 18 minutes ago. Why are you being a twat? W3X70N: just relax W3X70N: mundo W3X70N: no we just gave up he;s trolling, are you not reading chat? W3X70N: you guys are dumb af

Game 3 TL;DR: My adc sat at tower because I was teemo support, was super toxic all game, and then when I tried to be constructive
Elsewhere, Illaoi kept flamming me. I was not "Toxic." W3X70N: I main support. W3X70N: every year is the year of the toxic teemo hater ;) W3X70N: malz W3X70N: she gunna just talk all game, don;t humor her W3X70N: mf can u ward plz W3X70N: ok im gunna stay invis then so I don't get ganked. W3X70N: I'm not the one trolling here. W3X70N: ok W3X70N: yes he is. W3X70N: you're just toxic. But that;s ok. W3X70N: anyway, I'm going to mute you because I'm mature enough to know talking to you is pointless W3X70N: because you;re really childish. W3X70N: that's what I'm trying to do. He's just itting under tower W3X70N: gj diana W3X70N: ah shit W3X70N: woah woah W3X70N: guys W3X70N: relax W3X70N: Guys if you want to win you have to protect each other W3X70N: Illaoi W3X70N: you just let diana die for chasing zigs W3X70N: sure wish we had an adc W3X70N: no one else seems to have a problem W3X70N: HAHAHAH W3X70N: rekt W3X70N: Are you mad because I said we need to not chase? W3X70N: grow up man W3X70N: no you're being childish. I didn;tmake a big deal out of anything. W3X70N: I said "we need to protect ech other and not chase" And you've mentioned it 4 times now W3X70N: grow W3X70N: up W3X70N: Illaoi W3X70N: you understand this is a videogame right? W3X70N: not real life W3X70N: you really need a life man. This is why you have no friends outside of league. W3X70N: im not trashing im being honest. W3X70N: I know you're STILL bitching about how I said we need to not chase ONE time. W3X70N: Jesus fuck. W3X70N: Build a bridge W3X70N: get over it. W3X70N: Guys let;s group and end so we can start another game without each other in it W3X70N: some of us don;t play well with others W3X70N: true daty

I think I handle Toxic players really well honestly. I don't think that if someone is being toxic for no reason, you have to just be oppressed all game and not say a word. What kind community are we trying to get by letting trolls and toxic people just ruin games and then report who they don;t like and we get banned. I was never the aggressor.

32 Comments

ModUlanopo8 votes

W3X70N: you guys don't sound like you have very many friends W3X70N: he's mad because he sucks :( W3X70N: you're a really shitty person W3X70N: you're just toxic. But that;s ok. W3X70N: you really need a life man. This is why you have no friends outside of league.

None of those things are helpful and all of them are reportable for harassment. It's not that you're the most toxic person, it's that you're constantly grinding away at your teammates. I would talk less, play more.

I think I handle Toxic players really well honestly.

I wouldn't agree with that at all. You keep pouring gasoline on a fire.

W3X70N1 votes

Are you for real? Do you even play this game? Have you ever seen a toxic person? You're saying "You're being toxic" is being toxic. What moral high horse are you on man? You must be the second coming of Christ to pass that kind of judgment hahahaha

W3X70N1 votes

FYI this is exactly what I'm talking about that is wrong with the community. Riot expects someone to spit in your face and for you to thank them. That's absurd. I was not being anything revolving around the realm of punishable. If you've had real shits in your game you should be on my side, but you're not, you're on your own side. Have some comradery for your fellow player. Never did I say I was god's gift to the masses, I'm just not doing or saying anythign that's reportable. Think about it, if this wasn't my first offence, then I could have my account permabanned. It's a matter of the crime fitting the punishment and we both know that it doesn't.

Chijoku3 votes

Riot expects for people to act with maturity. Something you seem to need to work on.

BeatzBoyFTW5 votes

You should have just mute & report him. I mean what's the point of even typing those words at him? Trying to be a Social Justice hero or something? In League, it doesn't work this way, and you're only making the environment worse.

W3X70N1 votes

No. The person being a shit is making the environment worse. I'm just talking to someone like they're a human being. The punishment does not fit the crime.

BeatzBoyFTW6 votes

W3X70N: you're a really shitty person

Yeah sure. This will seriously help to make the game more peaceful.

ModUlanopo4 votes

{quoted}

Are you for real? Do you even play this game? Have you ever seen a toxic person? You're saying "You're being toxic" is being toxic. What moral high horse are you on man? You must be the second coming of Christ to pass that kind of judgment hahahaha

Obviously, I play the game. I have for a long time and I experience toxicity the same as everyone else. It's how I respond to it that makes the difference.

duckarp4 votes

I think this is a nice example of how you handle certain situations. Someone disagrees with you and you immediately start mocking him, even though he's actually right.

Chijoku2 votes

You are being extremely condescending even with statements like this.

vOmvbrawfU2 votes

{quoted}

W3X70N: you guys don't sound like you have very many friends W3X70N: he's mad because he sucks :( W3X70N: you're a really shitty person W3X70N: you're just toxic. But that;s ok. W3X70N: you really need a life man. This is why you have no friends outside of league.

None of those things are helpful and all of them are reportable for harassment. It's not that you're the most toxic person, it's that you're constantly grinding away at your teammates. I would talk less, play more.

But...if they're true...

CrazyBear19873 votes

There's a reason why it's called toxic. Cause it can spread.

Like Riot, i ignored your Tl,DR and just read what was in your chat logs.

Game 1: W3X70N: you guys don't sound like you have very many friends <---- small Harassment offence W3X70N: anyway, I'm getting reported for trying my best with 300 ms, so I'm just going to afk and earn the reports im getting ^----- Threaten to AFK, Unsportsmanlike W3X70N: she left all on her own. But please, everyone, go ahead and report me <---- inciting a report, even on yourself (overall minor flags of unsportsmanlike behavior, not enough for a punishment, but worth looking into)

Game 2: W3X70N: WE W3X70N: CAN W3X70N: NOT W3X70N: REMAKE W3X70N: BECAUSE W3X70N: WE W3X70N: ALL W3X70N: CONNECTED <------ Chat spam, minor offence W3X70N: Sorry we;re trying to get mundo to go bot but he;'s retarded <------ Major Offence, Inappropriate language used. Strike 1 W3X70N: you're a really shitty person <---- Repeated Harassment towards a teammate, W3X70N: this game was over before it started. <----- Griefing (Flagged for offensive/inappropriate language used)

Game 3: W3X70N: because you;re really childish. <----- Small Harassment offense, but multiple counts within game (Multiple minor offenses)

Summary: Overall, not a Toxic player, but needs a push in the right direction. Type less and learn to react appropriately to teammates behavior without uses of aggressive tones or inappropriate language. Verdict: Chat ban

  1. Seriously Riot... not reportable = Reportable AND Punishable, but not enough to be Permanently Banned, at least not yet.
  2. I think I handle Toxic players really well honestly. = No, you didn't, you may not be toxic at first, but you can be when pushed. Learn from this mistake.
  3. I don't think that if someone is being toxic for no reason = Correct, but no one gets an excuse either.
  4. I was never the aggressor = Ever heard of Aggravated assault? You may not have started it, but you were involved in making matter worse.

Keep this in mind at least, this is Strike 1 for you, after your chat restriction is removed you are still flagged for future toxicity. Any other behaviors that can get you flagged (AFK, Griefing, Harrassment etc), could give you a strike 2 - suspension or worse Straight to Strike 3 - Permanent ban.

You failed to realize you are wrong, and that's okay, but now that you have been warned, you have no more excuses to your future behavior. If you don't want to be Toxic, don't behave as if you are.

That's all. Good luck.

vOmvbrawfU1 votes

{quoted}

There's a reason why it's called toxic. Cause it can spread.

Like Riot, i ignored your Tl,DR and just read what was in your chat logs.

Game 2: W3X70N: WE W3X70N: CAN W3X70N: NOT W3X70N: REMAKE W3X70N: BECAUSE W3X70N: WE W3X70N: ALL W3X70N: CONNECTED <------ Chat spam, minor offence

I personally don't think telling someone something that they don't understand it "chat spam".

CrazyBear19872 votes

Yea, but he could have just said "We cannot remake because we are all connected"

typing in that way was unnecessary and putting in caps also gives it the wrong tone.

Even though the message is fine, the way he phrased was wrong.

That's all.

vOmvbrawfU2 votes

He did. Multiple times. Gotta keep telling em until they understand.

Lothàrs Edge3 votes

If you do what a normal human would do in any given provoked situation you will be reported. League of Legends functions like a want-to-be-monk-sanctuary, not like reality.

TrulyBland4 votes

First off: Being reported does not equate being banned.

Secondly: "Normal" is defined by what the majority does. And I don't mean this in the sense of "history is written by the winners", but that this is literally the definition of normal. And the vast majority of people never get punished for their behaviour, which heavily implies punished people do not react the way "normal" humans would; at least there's a difference in the frequency with which people react in such ways.

Thirdly: What is normal is entirely irrelevant to begin with, exactly for the aforementioned reason. It's merely an observation of what is currently happening. It doesn't imply that what is happening is good or bad. Every single change in society, good or bad, in the history of mankind started out as being abnormal; cause if it wasn't abnormal, it would obviously not be a change. The argument that something should (or shouldn't) be allowed simply because it is "normal" is nothing more than an appeal to laziness. It's an attempt to replace actual critical thinking with status quo bias.

W3X70N1 votes

nerd

TrulyBland1 votes

If that was an attempt of an ad hominem, it's not working. I'm happy with being a nerd. Apparently it is possible to fail at using logical fallacies... color me impressed.

Lothàrs Edge1 votes

First off: Never said that.

Secondly: And what is the issue with that in this scenario? It is normal to respond to poor, repeated antagonizing behavior with at least some amount of sarcasm. In any other team game off of the internet, people wouldn't have even have to be bothered to play with each other as soon as the first person was overly disruptive. People would just leave or if they were forced t stay, an altercation would be bound to happen.

Thirdly: Not at all. People don't behave the same way face-to-face in society because they fear the repercussions of doing so. Toxicity has increased because of the focus on reporting bad behavior. Everybody thinks they're the exception. 4/5 games consists of people looking for each and every reason to report. Why would anyone want to play or win with/for these people? Nobody in their right mind would. In DotA 2, there was toxicity, but not disruptive to the consistency of the league community. People would shit on each other/trash talk but the reward was the win and the win only. The reward for League? The win or a report. People are fine with either or.

AlienPrimate2 votes

This is why we need the tribunal back. While there is a better way to handle this called the mute button, I don't think the tribunal would have punished you. I actively used it with 100% accuracy on majority votes and I would have voted to pardon you.

Kei1431 votes

The tribunal would probably show over 12 games of his consistent minor harassments, which is probably why it is guilty.

W3X70N1 votes

Only... I've had this account for a year and this is my first offence so... Honestly, you'll see when you get punished for no reason and you end up making a post about it. You'll think no one could possibly see that you should be punished for what you did, and then people like you will pull anything at all out of their ass so they can stand on a moral high horse. "Oh, he said GG.. he's being sarcastic, that's reportable as harassment" "Oh, he asked his support to ward river, he's being unreasonable, that's toxic behavior." (LITERALLY IN THIS THREAD) "Oh he said someone was being toxic, that's you being toxic, reportable" Try some critical thinking skills and having context.

Kei1431 votes

You can indeed come on the board's to make a post about it. We'll tell you what isn't acceptable.

Riot wants their playerbase to focus on playing the game and not insult others.

Understand that Riot punishes based on consistency x toxicity. Mild toxicity over a tonne of games will get you punished. Serve hate speech within a couple of games will get you punished.

If you were to be able to see your full reform card (which only Riot can see), you'll probably see a different picture.

It would be something along the lines of:

"being validly reported 10% games within the last 3 months. Accumulating a total of 92 valid reports for minor toxicity."

Thrëat2 votes

Below I put everything that deserved a ban.

In the first game you talked about someone having no friends. How do you know if they have no friends? The truth is, you don't know anything about your team mates. Chances are you are projecting what is true to your life on your team mates. I am sorry you have no friends.

In the second game you just spammed and trash talked. You said you were going to take someone else's lane and told them to go bottom. That is not your call to make. While mundo mid is not meta it is also not insanely weak. He can just play passive early and scale well into late game. It looks like you actually were so toxic to the mundo that he didn't want to win with you on his team. I hate when I get paired with people that are so toxic that they make it unfun to carry. Who wants to give a loss to someone that clearly does not deserve it?

In the third game you again went into thinking you know something about someone's personal life and telling them that they have no friends. I have a Bachelor's in Psychology and currently working on my Master's in Clinical Mental Health Counseling and I truly believe that you are saying these things because you have no friends or not many friends in real life and you are projecting it onto your team mates.

Maybe you should reflect on why YOU think none of your team mates have friends outside of league. Maybe you should think about how your behavior contributes to your losses. Maybe you should just type /mute all in the beginning of games and play league as if it was a single player game.

W3X70N: you guys don&#039;t sound like you have very many friends W3X70N: anyway, I&#039;m getting reported for trying my best with 300 ms, so I&#039;m just going to afk and earn the reports im getting W3X70N: you sound mad W3X70N: are you mad? W3X70N: 1/3/1 tf W3X70N: you&#039;re bad dude W3X70N: 1/4/1 TF wooooooow W3X70N: he&#039;s mad because he sucks :(

W3X70N: WE W3X70N: CAN W3X70N: NOT W3X70N: REMAKE W3X70N: BECAUSE W3X70N: WE W3X70N: ALL W3X70N: CONNECTED W3X70N: Mundo just go bot and support W3X70N: Mundo W3X70N: im taking your lane W3X70N: go bot W3X70N: mundo stay bot W3X70N: OMFG W3X70N: MUNDO W3X70N: JUST STAY BOT W3X70N: All you&#039;re doing mundo is feeding W3X70N: go W3X70N: bot W3X70N: NO MUNDO W3X70N: YOU ARE THE ONE W3X70N: WHO IS 1/3 W3X70N: Sorry we;re trying to get mundo to go bot but he;&#039;s retarded W3X70N: this whole game is goen W3X70N: mundo mid fucked us W3X70N: mundo why did you even load this game W3X70N: you&#039;re a really shitty person W3X70N: clearly you have nothing better to do W3X70N: Mundo is the only one intentionally feeding WW. Get over yourself. We&#039;ve just given up. W3X70N: this game was over before it started. W3X70N: ww we were done 18 minutes ago. Why are you being a twat? W3X70N: you guys are dumb af

W3X70N: grow W3X70N: up W3X70N: Illaoi W3X70N: you understand this is a videogame right? W3X70N: not real life W3X70N: you really need a life man. This is why you have no friends outside of league. W3X70N: I know you&#039;re STILL bitching about how I said we need to not chase ONE time. W3X70N: Jesus fuck.

Lady Destruction1 votes

the simplest solution is to simply not type. IMO you weren't being terribly toxic but it looks like you were ranting at your teammates which could be considered harassment.

I feel you on the lag tho. That shit is tilting.

e46 Fanatic1 votes

Just unplug your keyboard! Don't type back to people! Also, don't shit talk if you are.

Look man, I'm sitting on a 15 day ban from so many arguments with trolls. Obviously I flamed them back and that's why I can't bitch about my penalty, but I can only hope they got theirs.

I have NEVER shit talked anyone because of their skill and such, simply because I have no reason to. I have been like "fucking bot lane" but thats as far as it goes really, I don't call anyone out personally.

How I got my 3 penalities within 2 months leading to 15 day ban, is this same situation over and over(ofcourse changed a bit, but same nonsense). I had a bad match, got called an autistic noob, I then told them EVERY reason I'm not a noob and asked, "what makes me autistic? i know you cant give me a legit reason" and I'm assuming it's because they felt stupid and couldnt give me ONE ANSWER to my question, so they decided to call ME toxic and /all report e46jmp!

Unfortunately because I let them get the best of me everytime, I was able to be reported for cursing back, other than that they are LITERALLY reporting me for EVERY reason they should report themselves, I want to throw something every time I see how people act on league, I really wanna think they're 10 years old.

Sona Ping1 votes

There are things like Policies and Terms of Use. They are agreements that you make with the parties involved that set out how you can interact with them. They are very common, like a store policies.

You have an agreement like this. League of Legends has a chat feature that is meant to be used to coordinate play with teammate and persistently choosing to use it to pick arguments is an abuse of the system and violates your agreement. You have been reported to such an extent that your violations are not being overlooked anymore and you have been issued to tell you that this persistent behaviour is not acceptable.

Lexyy1 votes

They should really start acknowledging the difference between flamers/unsportsmanlike/tilting and people who respond and defend themselves.

And no, muting is not "defending yourself". If someone insults you in rl, you're just gonna keep quiet? If someone insults your mother, you're not gonna say anything? Wow honorable... really.

AeroWaffle2 votes

When someone insults your mother irl, do you respond by insulting their mother?

Personally, I dismiss them and let everyone else decide who the asshole is. If I need to, I refute allegations.

But insult them back? Why bother. Why should I care what they think?

Lexyy1 votes

I, sure as hell, don't keep quiet. I wouldn't insult their mother, I'd insult them (if anyone). But no, I wouldn't be quiet.

AeroWaffle2 votes

So you would subject yourself to appear just like the other person randomly insulting you?

All the bystanders would see is two people insulting each other. And I doubt they would get a good impression of either person.

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