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LMFAO player shaming? more like player awareness

Lelouch king··1 votes·1,374 views

Hey killinkids96,

I understand you want to expose this person but I can't have you naming and shaming them here on the boards as it violates the Universal Rules.

You're allowed to repost in Player Behavior and Moderation (not Gameplay please) and talk about it but please don't post their name or anything that would link to showing their name (i.e. match history, op.gg links, chat history screenshots, etc...)

Instead, send a ticket into Player Support with full details regarding the player.

Make sure to select “I have a question About League of Legends/Riot Games” and category “Games and Features > General Questions”.

https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

Here is a link to your post below:

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/f/3ErqAdtq/d/PU9GZ9Z1

Propane

Propane i feel like you are a high ranking official within this game called league, and if you want me to not "shame" people then you should NOT punish players who are toxic back to people when they try and be a team player in the first place, I am still waiting for this player to be punished, named <Removed by Moderation>

I recently got a chat restriction for being toxic. Since then, i have been doing my best to carry scrubs every game because league doesn't know how to weed out the people who desserve to stay unranked forever, verses the people who belong in a certain rank, and this last game i played a riven was losing top lane against a fiora, and i said bro play safe pls let the jg gank you

<Removed by Moderation> How are you supposed to deal with these people? i reported, and would very much like to see a report issuance, because if not it would be pretty fucked up when i get reported (AND PUNISHED, WHICH MADE ME UNFAIRLY LOOSE LIKE 5 OF MY NEXT 10 GAMES SEEING AS YOU HAVE TO SPAM PINGS FOR PEOPLE TO LISTEN,) for being toxic during games like these for asking them to play safe and wait for a gank and then they turn on me and start acting toxic so i flame back... if i dont see a report issuance i will do my best to make someone&#039;s life a living hell within riot... sorry but not really, seeing as you don&#039;t know how to differentiate who desserves to be punished, between 2 people being toxic, one who is feeding and the other who is carrying the game and started out being polite and team oriented. pretty fucked up league, pretty fucked up... like seriously come on guys

31 Comments

ModMod Puff Pastry4 votes

Hey there friend!

When it comes down to it, it goes against the Universal Rules to go and name and shame other Summoners, regardless how toxic they are. I'll link you to them as well for your reference here: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/4LgZ2EwM-universal-rules

Also, just as a heads up there is a part there that talks about the Golden Rule. It goes as follows:

The Golden Rule

Always be respectful to players, community members, moderators, and Rioters. Harassment and insults will not be tolerated (“just playing” is NOT a catch-all excuse).

Make sure that when posting on the boards, you follow through with this rule or else it can lead to a suspension as it isn't tolerated on these forums.

With that said, I removed your response to Mod Propane, but left the rest so then it is clear where the rules stand.

Slythion2 votes

you've got some incredible tolerance Mr. Puff Pastry

https://img.memesuper.com/e1f9516702a2fa8a95711979ba13cdb7_seal-of-approval-i-approve-meme_640-492.jpeg

This Is Your Dad2 votes

Lel permanent forum ban man. It's coming if you don't settle down.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

dude do you realize the mod on the boards are not employed by riot , and the boards are ran by a 3rd party?

they tell you how to to report someone outside of game by submitting a support ticket. do that

Siggiz2 votes

this guy has a point i received a chat restriction as well because of 2 games 1. being a rengar who in game may i mind you says "im int feeding" so i flame him to the end of the earth to try and get something in his head to stir and finally stop being a toxic ass 2. being a supp who picks yorick (currently has a 3/12 w/r) with yorick supp so i tell him please dont. He still does. Proceeds to get caught 2 times in lane and finally after me telling him "please stop fucking feeding" he leaves lane for me being toxic. I than receive a chat restriction because players like those want to get you to tilt to the end of the world and make the game literally impossible to win. I also put up a forum with a link to the rengars op.gg and all to ge the wor dout to look out for him and it got taken down. I understand it is hard to differantiate between the good and the bad sometimes but if Riot invested some time or something into looking at all the facts before just punishing someone you would see a heavy decrease in toxicity because players wouldnt feel the need to flame someone. People only flame because nothing ever gets done when you report someone. Currently 2 players who have int fed in games already that i have exposed and they are still playing games peacefully as if nothing is wrong.

Siggiz1 votes

how does it seem fair at all that these people can report you and get you punished. But on the flip side you cant post their name or op.gg because its "player shaming". By letting people know about these players youre helping the community out by letting them know if they run into them to either leave the champ select or let the team know he is a toxic ass who needs to be looked out for

ModMod Puff Pastry2 votes

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how does it seem fair at all that these people can report you and get you punished. But on the flip side you cant post their name or op.gg because its "player shaming". By letting people know about these players youre helping the community out by letting them know if they run into them to either leave the champ select or let the team know he is a toxic ass who needs to be looked out for

Hey Siggiz,

So I completely understand how much it can stink to have a toxic Summoner in game. It definitely brings down your morale and it is obvious you wouldn't want your fellow Summoners to have the same experience. At the end of the game, you need to report these Summoners who ARE toxic, so then they go through the appropriate channels and have their account reviewed by someone at Riot. Naming and shaming on the forums leads to witch hunting and other various activities that are not positive, but harmful in nature.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Please click "Quote" under my comment in order for me to get the notification of your response.

By letting people know about these players youre helping the community out by letting them know if they run into them to either leave the champ select or let the team know he is a toxic ass who needs to be looked out for

If that were the case, you'd also promote tons of AFK cases where players are forced to leave Champion Select & get themselves a free Leaverbuster. You're technically saying that they should "constantly run away from the problem instead of solving it". If you seriously want to expose this person, do it personally with Riot by submitting a ticket to Riot Support.

how does it seem fair at all that these people can report you and get you punished.

This sentence is one proof of how the punishing system works fine, and who knows, the guy you reported can get the same fate too.

Lelouch king1 votes

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Please click "Quote" under my comment in order for me to get the notification of your response.

If that were the case, you'd also promote tons of AFK cases where players are forced to leave Champion Select & get themselves a free Leaverbuster. You're technically saying that they should "constantly run away from the problem instead of solving it". If you seriously want to expose this person, do it personally with Riot by submitting a ticket to Riot Support.

This sentence is one proof of how the punishing system works fine, and who knows, the guy you reported can get the same fate too.

you got me, I am done with this post, I had my answer answered and am willing to move on, thanks not to you, who did not provide a solution but instead wanted to pick apart and simply put, tell me i am pretty much wrong completely, I already replied saying I was not looking for justification but an answer as how to handle this situation, which was also in a post. Obviously i was ranting as was upset at a troll top laner and feeling not enough had been done about it

Also, is it not better to decide not to play with a toxic player as to not tilt them or yourself by dodging a queue and getting a 5 minute wait afterwards, then knowing you are going to have a horrible game because they are trolling? this is a rhetorical question, food for thought please don't reply and expect me to read because I probably wont be back on forums for a month or two

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

Picking something out of meta like Yorick Support is not bannable, and if the person has a bad KDA simply because he's inexperienced (not intentional feeding), it's also not bannable.

You might say reporting someone may seem useless at first since banning cases for him may be very rare for him, but ** so is talking shit back**. At least reporting helps put a flag on the guy so next time he may have an easier time getting punished, while on the other hand, you talking crap back at him does nothing beneficial at all.

Lelouch king1 votes

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Picking something out of meta like Yorick Support is not bannable, and if the person has a bad KDA simply because he's inexperienced (not intentional feeding), it's also not bannable.

You might say reporting someone may seem useless at first since banning cases for him may be very rare for him, but ** so is talking shit back**. At least reporting helps put a flag on the guy so next time he may have an easier time getting punished, while on the other hand, you talking crap back at him does nothing beneficial at all.

If i am not mistaken, Yorick is considered a fighter, not a support. Therefore, it should be reportable because he is not within his role.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

MissFortune Marksman. Can also be played as Support.

Malzahar Mage/Assassin. Can also be played as Support.

Annie BrandMage. Can also be played as Support.

Blitzcrank Tank/Fighter. So are you saying he's not a Support?

Lelouch king1 votes

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MissFortune Marksman. Can also be played as Support.

Malzahar Mage/Assassin. Can also be played as Support.

Annie BrandMage. Can also be played as Support.

Blitzcrank Tank/Fighter. So are you saying he's not a Support?

I am a support main, If i was an ADC main and I had a Miss Fortune support, a Malzahar support, An Annie or a Brand support I would be upset. Blitzcrank, Annie, Brand or Malzahar would not be as bad, seeing as they have some support qualities, annie and brand with their stun, blitz with his pull / silence / knock up, and malzahar with his silence and his ult. I am saying Yorick does not offer really any good CC, and doesn't offer any other support qualifications. You are trying to argue on champions who are obviously not meta supports, and to that degree your arguement is at least 50% invalid.

ModThe Djinn1 votes

{quoted}You are trying to argue on champions who are obviously not meta supports, and to that degree your arguement is at least 50% invalid.

Officially, "support" is simply a position designation that indicates the non-farming bottom lane champion. There's an EXPECTATION that certain types of champions are played here, but it isn't a requirement.

Sure, it's nice if your atypical support asks your permission in advance, but there's really no rule against them playing whatever they want, so long as they're legitimately trying their best in the game itself. If that means they're playing Pantheon Support? So be it.

Lelouch king1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LnrGdyyQ,comment-id=000400010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-24T03:57:27.064+0000)

Officially, "support" is simply a position designation that indicates the non-farming bottom lane champion. There's an EXPECTATION that certain types of champions are played here, but it isn't a requirement.

Sure, it's nice if your atypical support asks your permission in advance, but there's really no rule against them playing whatever they want, so long as they're legitimately trying their best in the game itself. If that means they're playing Pantheon Support? So be it.

META support meaning not listed as support, but champions who have desireable support trait

ModThe Djinn1 votes

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META support meaning not listed as support, but champions who have desireable support trait

Yes. I was specifically talking in reference to this:

If i am not mistaken, Yorick is considered a fighter, not a support. Therefore, it should be reportable because he is not within his role.

...and pointing out that, while sometimes frustrating, it is not reportable.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

You basically said Yorick is a "Fighter" without explaining more details on why not, therefore not a Support, so I'm just using that exact same logic with these 4 champions, but apparently, your perspective was easily changed at that instant second. Ironically, you just played Sion Support, who's technically a Tank/Fighter.

Like I said, someone picking a champion on a non-desired lane isn't punishable at all. Meta always changes on many occasions, so there's no harm to it if players tries it out of curiosity. That's how top lane Fizz/Ekko, Rumble jungle & many others were created at some point.

Lelouch king1 votes

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You basically said Yorick is a "Fighter" without explaining more details on why not, therefore not a Support, so I'm just using that exact same logic with these 4 champions, but apparently, your perspective was easily changed at that instant second. Ironically, you just played Sion Support, who's technically a Tank/Fighter.

Like I said, someone picking a champion on a non-desired lane isn't punishable at all. Meta always changes on many occasions, so there's no harm to it if players tries it out of curiosity. That's how top lane Fizz/Ekko, Rumble jungle & many others were created at some point.

Sion has 2 hard cc and a slow, that is viable as a support. Yorick has minions he spawns which attack creep that would be detrimental to the ADC being able to farm, I am not saying that fighters cant support I am saying Yorick is not a viable support because he doesnt offer anything a support offers, and if you are going to try a new META out do it in normals not ranked, that is what normals is for, and we are talking about ranked here, so i would still say your points are only 50% valid

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Ever heard of the item, Relic Shield? He can still farm some graves with it, while his passive can help on the sideline to provide more graves. After that, he can seriously hurt as much as Malzahar considering the fact that ghouls can just jump on E'ed enemies, unlike Malzahar's voidlings whose speed decreases the further Malzahar is.

and if you are going to try a new META out do it in normals not ranked, that is what normals is for, and we are talking about ranked here,

This part is understandable. Pretty much the reason why some of us here were constantly asking for a change where only champions of Mastery 4 is allowed in Ranked matches.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

ok now you are just grasping at straws

champs can be played in more then one role ... yorick support can work... just as malphite, nunu, lux, brand, annie, zyra, morgana , syndra, and so on there is ziggs bot

there is graves jungle and top

champs are not defined by the lane they play or what role they were queued for .

if i wanna spam nunu support for 300 games in a row i can... now where they were intentionally feeding and were toxic and verbally abusive is the only thing that are reportable. and from the spam of post you have made regarding this 1 game ... just to go you are just as toxic as they were. maybe not in that game but over all history of your account. as you stated you just had a 2 week ban and now you are acting like this.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Propane i feel like you are a high ranking official within this game called league, and if you want me to not "shame" people then you should NOT punish players who are toxic back to people when they try and be a team player in the first place, I am still waiting for this player to be punished, named <Removed by Moderation>

Learn to grow up for once. If this name isn't taken down, expect to get yourself a free suspension from Boards soon.

Lelouch king1 votes

Sorry people for posting the name, i got a previous message of my post being taken down that said i had to post in the player behavior and moderation, i didnt know i still couldnt post the name in that,

apart from that i am pretty sure the golden rule ( of life,) is treat others how you want to be treated, and I have said in the post i was not toxic until they were toxic, I was trying to cheer them on and be an uplifting player if you looked at this game matchup chat until they told me to fuck off, along with a variety of other demeaning slurs that got me a chat restriction, so no, i will not stop, if they ban me off forums i will create another account and start over because this is ridiculous in my opinion, I do not want to be toxic to people i want to have a good game with them, they want to be toxic, so i will reciprocate when a riven goes against a fiora and the fiora has 10 kills 15 minute in all off the riven top (minus one kill of the jg when he came to gank her already fed)

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

The last time I checked, that game you had with that Riven was 3 hours ago, so I suggest you just drop it & get yourself a new game. It's a game filled with 100 million players, I doubt you would ever see him again. All you have to do is report the guy, no need to get all desperate by creating a smurf, level it up to 10, and then post it here again. Just a waste of time.

Lelouch king1 votes

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The last time I checked, that game you had with that Riven was 3 hours ago, so I suggest you just drop it & get yourself a new game. It's a game filled with 100 million players, I doubt you would ever see him again. All you have to do is report the guy, no need to get all desperate by creating a smurf, level it up to 10, and then post it here again. Just a waste of time.

Last time i checked, this is a problem more than just the Riven, it happens 5/8 games i would say, as I call it low silver / high bronze ELO Hell, I am not saying it is always entirely their fault seeing as I am human and to human is to Er, my point is I got a chat restriction for being toxic and I am trying a different approach other than just flaming the player to the end of the earth, because league doesn't know how to differentiate between a player who is trying to win and a troll

ModMod Puff Pastry2 votes

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Sorry people for posting the name, i got a previous message of my post being taken down that said i had to post in the player behavior and moderation, i didnt know i still couldnt post the name in that,

apart from that i am pretty sure the golden rule ( of life,) is treat others how you want to be treated, and I have said in the post i was not toxic until they were toxic, I was trying to cheer them on and be an uplifting player if you looked at this game matchup chat until they told me to fuck off, along with a variety of other demeaning slurs that got me a chat restriction, so no, i will not stop, if they ban me off forums i will create another account and start over because this is ridiculous in my opinion, I do not want to be toxic to people i want to have a good game with them, they want to be toxic, so i will reciprocate when a riven goes against a fiora and the fiora has 10 kills 15 minute in all off the riven top (minus one kill of the jg when he came to gank her already fed)

Hey Killinkids96,

So first and foremost, I completely empathize with you here. Don't think I don't know or understand where you're coming from. I mean, I think it was last night I had a duo bot lane that went and started intentionally feeding when I was a game away from demotion. As upsetting as it is though, we as Summoners need to uphold the Summoner's code, regardless of how hard things can be at time. This also includes when posting on the forums. Don't take out your anger on the people around you who are trying to help you, as you are just repeating what the person you posted about did to you just in a different medium. You are free to criticize the system and post your opinion as long as it is constructive and doesn't break any of the Universal Rules. Nothing comes of posting in a way that is aggressive or inflammatory, and to be quite honest tends to lead to people not taking your concerns as seriously.

Lelouch king1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mod Puff Pastry,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LnrGdyyQ,comment-id=00050001,timestamp=2017-04-24T03:05:11.409+0000)

Hey Killinkids96,

So first and foremost, I completely empathize with you here. Don't think I don't know or understand where you're coming from. I mean, I think it was last night I had a duo bot lane that went and started intentionally feeding when I was a game away from demotion. As upsetting as it is though, we as Summoners need to uphold the Summoner's code, regardless of how hard things can be at time. This also includes when posting on the forums. Don't take out your anger on the people around you who are trying to help you, as you are just repeating what the person you posted about did to you just in a different medium. You are free to criticize the system and post your opinion as long as it is constructive and doesn't break any of the Universal Rules. Nothing comes of posting in a way that is aggressive or inflammatory, and to be quite honest tends to lead to people not taking your concerns as seriously.

I respect how you came about posting this, and once again, I apologize, I am 20 years old and I am not meaning to be aggressive or inflammatory, I am simply at this point trying to get a conversation going that will help me further understand how Riot wants me to deal with the situation, and I guess I need to work on how I come across typing things out, I appreciate you taking your time to reply to my comment, and once again I apologize for sounding negative, as I am simply trying to get my points across, not trying to be toxic

ModMod Puff Pastry1 votes

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I respect how you came about posting this, and once again, I apologize, I am 20 years old and I am not meaning to be aggressive or inflammatory, I am simply at this point trying to get a conversation going that will help me further understand how Riot wants me to deal with the situation, and I guess I need to work on how I come across typing things out, I appreciate you taking your time to reply to my comment, and once again I apologize for sounding negative, as I am simply trying to get my points across, not trying to be toxic

Hey, we all have had bad days and sometimes it takes someone saying "Hey, dude I've been there. Don't let it get to you, it isn't worth it." to kinda set us back on the right track. Want some advice? When I see someone toxic, I don't bother muting. I don't go and try to talk them back into the game... but instead I just do my best to keep playing and do my best and focus on my macro and micro game. Afterwards I just report them, move on to the next game, and call it a night. If I lose that game? I go for a walk or listen to some music and let myself mentally "defrag" so that I don't go into the next game upset over the previous one.

Your account isn't worth it. Your time in the game isn't worth fighting back in game. Put that energy in a place that will help you improve. In terms of the other part? How else can you report someone? Feel free to drop a line into Player Support to let them know about this Summoner. Otherwise, just keep your eyes straight forward and aim for your end of season ranked goals.

Anyways, good luck next time you're on the Rift and remember, your account isn't worth it.

Lelouch king1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mod Puff Pastry,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LnrGdyyQ,comment-id=0005000100000000,timestamp=2017-04-24T03:27:07.141+0000)

Hey, we all have had bad days and sometimes it takes someone saying "Hey, dude I've been there. Don't let it get to you, it isn't worth it." to kinda set us back on the right track. Want some advice? When I see someone toxic, I don't bother muting. I don't go and try to talk them back into the game... but instead I just do my best to keep playing and do my best and focus on my macro and micro game. Afterwards I just report them, move on to the next game, and call it a night. If I lose that game? I go for a walk or listen to some music and let myself mentally "defrag" so that I don't go into the next game upset over the previous one.

Your account isn't worth it. Your time in the game isn't worth fighting back in game. Put that energy in a place that will help you improve. In terms of the other part? How else can you report someone? Feel free to drop a line into Player Support to let them know about this Summoner. Otherwise, just keep your eyes straight forward and aim for your end of season ranked goals.

Anyways, good luck next time you're on the Rift and remember, your account isn't worth it.

When I said I would start over, I meant create another forum account.. I guess i didn't know my game account would have been banned too... but regardless I do appreciate it man, You definitely put me in a better mood with how you went about commenting compared to the other comments that were posted, I wasn't looking for justification i was looking for how other people thought it should be handled and so far you are the only one that has done this... lmao if there was an honor button for the comment i would have honored you for how you handled it

ModMod Puff Pastry1 votes

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When I said I would start over, I meant create another forum account.. I guess i didn't know my game account would have been banned too... but regardless I do appreciate it man, You definitely put me in a better mood with how you went about commenting compared to the other comments that were posted, I wasn't looking for justification i was looking for how other people thought it should be handled and so far you are the only one that has done this... lmao if there was an honor button for the comment i would have honored you for how you handled it

lol Oh no! No no no, I mean... it is possible to be so bad on Boards to have action taken in game, but I've never seen it happen since being part of the Moderation team. When I say "Your account isn't worth it." I mean when you get that urge to tell them to "shut up" or "I wasn't feeding you such and such!", remember your account isn't worth it. You'll be fine, just keep your head held high and facing forward.

Good luck Summoner!

This Is Your Dad1 votes

Since I found a moderator I wanted to clarify something since my comment on another post was removed. When I said "this is like a personal attack" I was referring to his post, not me attacking him. I was just trying to point out that everyone has bad games and he probably fed in one game somewhere. I didn't mean to violate the board rules and was just hoping to clarify after reviewing my wording.

Lelouch king1 votes

On another note, I am still waiting for this player to be punished :)

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