Quinn is considered a troll pick?

One Ashe On··1 votes·1,115 views

Everytime i pick quinn people call me out saying i'm trolling or i'm picking a weak pick, or that i am useless... jesus fuck people are so meta sheep it's getting old. That or picking a squishy team when i intended i was going to play Quinn.. i swear people don't use their brain pretty often on this game.

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Chermorg2 votes

Just ignore them and troll them back by fucking owning your lane with the awesome champion that is Quinn (qWin).

One Ashe On1 votes

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Just ignore them and troll them back by fucking owning your lane with the awesome champion that is Quinn (qWin).

Everytime that i play her, i get ignored by my jungler because apparently it's not worth to gank a Quinn or what so ever and just get camped by enemy jungler.. like it's fucking annoying.

Chermorg2 votes

Just take that annoyance and anger and channel it into focusing on winning lane the best you can.

One Ashe On1 votes

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Just take that annoyance and anger and channel it into focusing on winning lane the best you can.

True point.

Kei1431 votes

anyone that has a point and click CC is easy to gank for.

When people don't understand the game, they call people out for their misunderstanding. But if you know your stuff you'll just laugh at their ignorance instead.

I would go support (old) urgot against a vayne + yasuo + zed and my team has no idea why I pick him and how I keep winning them fights while they live with slithers of heath.

One Ashe On1 votes

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anyone that has a point and click CC is easy to gank for.

When people don't understand the game, they call people out for their misunderstanding. But if you know your stuff you'll just laugh at their ignorance instead.

I would go support (old) urgot against a vayne + yasuo + zed and my team has no idea why I pick him and how I keep winning them fights while they live with slithers of heath.

Urgot support seems more viable than top right now, every urgot top i had fed their ass off but the finisher seems OP to deny specific target.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

Might I ask what lane you're playing her in, as well as what elo (approx)?

SecondAirbane1 votes

jg and top in high gold

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

Yeah, that's definitely just people that are meta sheep. Ignore them and focus on building yourself up. I play her ADC, so I can't help much with those roles, but if you ever need any tips, stop by the Quinn Mains Subreddit or join our Discord.

Good hunting!

SecondAirbane1 votes

oh i just looked up the stats for him/her tell that to the OP lol

also i 1trick vel'koz in low gold hi

NinjaGuy691 votes

I wouldn't say she's a troll pick but she is a pretty bad pick. She's only strong when armor penetration items and/or AD items are strong. She relies on snowballing and bursting someone down before they can return fire. Essentially, she's an early to mid game champion who excels at racking up kills and closing out games quickly. However, she's a bad pick in general because she doesn't bring anything to a team other than damage. If she falls behind early or lets the game become drawn out, then she falls off and can't do much to help her team close out the game. Her visuals are fine but she needs another gameplay update to make her more well-rounded. In my opinion, she isn't a troll pick but she is a pretty bad pick.

Pika3101 votes

What you say is mostly true. Irony is, the reason she doesn't help her team and falls off is BECAUSE OF PATCH 5.20. Quinn's most effective playstyle was win lane, then build defensive to be an off-tank and take the opponent's focus in teamfights in melee form. It's the EXACT same playstyle as every dive bruiser, which is what she used to be: Jax, Irelia, Renekton, Camille, et cetera. Rito destroyed Quinn's identity because she wasn't what RITO wanted her to be, but they refused to give her any tools to become that. Now she's just... a troll pick.

NinjaGuy692 votes

I don't know what you're on about but I never saw anyone build the old Quinn as a bruiser. The rare few times that I did see her prior to the Marksman Update, players would always build her like a marksman....because that's what she is. I doubt they'll give her the rework she needs any time soon though because I believe Reav3 mentioned that she isn't a priority. I'm sure they'll continue to give her random changes until they eventually get around to giving her a full VGU in like 2022 or something because that's Riot for you. Not like I care though.

Pika3102 votes

Pre-5.20, Quinn's top-built items in Diamond+ went something along the lines of BoRK every game 1st item, then either off-tank or tank items; Iceborn/Triforce, Randuin's/Visage, et cetera. Quinn was NEVER played as an ADC, her pickrate was 95% top lane and 5% mid lane. She doesn't have the kit to work as an ADC and she never has.

I'm sorry that you began playing this season, but this is just how things used to be, doesn't matter that you don't like it.

NinjaGuy691 votes

I've been playing this game since Season 3 and I've never seen Quinn built like that. When Deadman's Plate first came out, people were building it on everyone and as you can assume, they built it on her too. I'd see people building top Quinn with squishy builds as well. But I mean if you enjoy playing shitter things like top tank Quinn, then go for it.

Pika3102 votes

So you're calling Diamond and Challenger players that went 14/0 in lane "shitters?" You have a very interesting definition of that word. I suggest you recheck Webster.

NinjaGuy691 votes

So you're calling Diamond and Challenger players that went 14/0 in lane "shitters?"

No, I never said that. I was clearly speaking about tank/bruiser builds for Quinn. Do you have a problem with English comprehension? Also, even if a (likely small) subset of high elo players did manage to win lane with tank Quinn, that doesn't mean it's a good build. Winning lane doesn't mean anything if you can't use the build to consistently close out a game. If it actually was a good build path, then you'd see widespread abuse of the build and the champion and a large portion of players would be racking up wins on it. I get that you're really trying to sell me on this but Quinn is currently a cheesy pick at best and she was probably also bad back in the day when people would supposedly build tanky on her.

Pika3101 votes

How do you not realize that you're contradicting yourself? :

If it actually was a good build path, then you'd see widespread abuse

she was probably also bad back in the day

You yourself realize AND admit she was a bad pick. Yet at the same time you talk about "abusing" a successful strategy. Since she was a bad pick, it's impossible for players to "abuse" anything with her. She's simply not picked. The trolls in your bronze games that picked Quinn did so because they liked her despite being bad. They didn't care what her most successful strategy was, they didn't even care to learn what class of champion she's supposed to be. As the mindless sheeple of bronze that they are, they believe the lies Rito tells them and unintentionally troll because Rito wanted them to troll.

I will admit one thing, you're right about the "small" subset in high elo. Roughtly **ONLY **95% of Quinn players took bruiser builds on her. Interestingly enough, that 95% directly correlates to the exact same 95% of Diamond players that picked her top lane. A MASSIVE FIVE WHOLE PERCENT OF HER DIAMOND PLAYERBASE built her somewhat more "assassiny," namely the 5% of games where she was played mid lane. In roughly 100% of Quinn games, her very first item was BoRK and (excluding Trinity Force, which still gave crit back then) somewhere around 0% of Diamond Quinn players bought Crit on her.

These are facts.

Pika3101 votes

She doesn't have an ult... She was gutted to hell in patch 5.20. They removed a lot of power from her normal abilities for nonexistent crit scaling on her passive, despite not being a crit champ. They removed her ult and stole HotS' mount system, but made it much worse. Her kit is a complete mess now, she doesn't even have any items that synergize with her anymore. Lethality was cheezy for a while only because lethality itself is a toxic mechanic, it had nothing to do with Quinn, because fact of the matter is she's really weak after 5.20.

UnboundHades1 votes

If your not playing her top and just ruining the other top layers day u are fine by me

One Ashe On1 votes

I never said Quinn is a troll pick, i say others player consider her like it wich bother me because it's my facorite champion.

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