Why I think people struggle with the definition of toxicity in league.

WholeySchist·Feb 26, 2020·1 votes·3,473 views

Streamers.

Watch any given streamer on any given day at high elo flame their teammates in chat for multiple games a day and go unpunished, I won't name names, but there are plenty.

Now average bronze 3 Joe watches streams trying improve their play because they really like league, only to find when they type "HOW THE FUKC CAN O NE PERS O N BE SO F {CIKN USELESS" receives a 14 day ban, they come to the boards and post their chat logs, and are like "How is this toxic?" and then some one usually responds, "your definition of toxic needs changed", but they see their favorite big name streamers doing it all the time, how could it be bad?

I feel bad for new players to league, and players who are get emotionally invested into games. I have found calmness and laughing at angry people the best way for me to play league (after a few banned accounts...), but I think I understand now why people are confused on the summoner code - it doesn't apply to all players evenly.

12 Comments

ModWulf HelhammerFeb 26, 20206 votes

Being punished requires being reported. At high elo, most of those players all know each other, and are much less likely to report people they know for toxicity, Public figures like Streamers also get a bit of safety from reports by nature of their notoriety.

Emperør RhaastFeb 26, 20204 votes

You are literally saying that streamers get to flame people and go unpunished just because they're a streamer.

SubdueFeb 26, 20206 votes

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You are literally saying that streamers get to flame people and go unpunished just because they're a streamer.

Pretty sure what he said was that people don't report them because they're famous. So yes, if people don't report you when you're being toxic, you won't get penalized.

ModWulf HelhammerFeb 26, 20205 votes

No, I said streamers tend to not get reported, which means they don’t get punished.

No chat based toxicity is automatically punished. Everything requires a report to be checked. If someone doesn’t get reported, no matter what they said, nothing will happen to them.

ThyDelutionistFeb 27, 20201 votes

[{quoted}](name=Wulf Helhammer,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Flf377OU,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2020-02-26T17:01:39.956+0000)

No, I said streamers tend to not get reported, which means they don’t get punished.

No chat based toxicity is automatically punished. Everything requires a report to be checked. If someone doesn’t get reported, no matter what they said, nothing will happen to them.

So if i swear families and hope for cancer is ok as long as noone reports....

ModWulf HelhammerFeb 27, 20202 votes

To the game? Yes. That’s why you can say whatever you want when you’re in a 5-man premade (provided none of them decided to joke report you or whatever).

That’s the compromise in order for the system to exist. It will only punish things the community finds harmful, and the community should only report things they find harmful.

ZardoFeb 26, 20204 votes

I hate how much streamer mentality leaks into lower ranks. No, your silver 4 game isnt unwinnable because you're 1 kill and 1 dragon down, now stop typing ff, get out of the fountain, and play.

SubdueFeb 26, 20204 votes

I think part of it also is that the streamers are (usually) complaining out loud, not typing out their frustrations. As regular players, we all have the option to yell at the screen all we want. However, when that frustration makes it to the keyboard is when issues arise.

VindicatorOFTheyFeb 26, 20203 votes

Streamers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3HUQInyB6c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU3XKq5FNX4

Watch any given streamer on any given day at high elo flame their teammates in chat for multiple games a day and go unpunished.

Are you sure about that ?

Tele IIFeb 26, 20202 votes

Yeah impressionable children have problems. That just the nature of being an ignorant gullible naive child. Tough shit. Good thing they have no real responsibilities in life yet lol.

Kei143Feb 27, 20202 votes

People only act that way cos they don't understand how the system works.

The streamers certainly don't know it.

KrokyFeb 26, 20201 votes

the definintion of toxicity is clear.. .and i support whatever bans ppl get for toxic behaviour.. becuase when you flame a teammate in bronze 4 or iron 1 or whatever ... which pile of poop stinks worse??. who;se dog barks the louder... get the euphemism???

Bad players flaming bad players is toxic. most of the times. good players flaming bad players. . (it;s probably the ugly truth)

i wont condone any toxic behaviour tbh but when you are playing at high elo and you see this attorcities that are commonly made on bronze league ... you kinda get why is toxicity at high levels not punished relatively