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Surrender

Emperor Azula ·12/24/2015, 4:56:06 PM·10 votes·867 views

In my opinion, the surrender vote should only require a majority 3, rather than 4, and the timer should also be reduced to 15 minutes or even 10.

Most people will say that's stupid because you don't know if you can come back and win the game that early. The thing is, you can ALWAYS come back and win. Even if you are down 0-100 with 3 inhibitors down and they have 5 dragons and Baron, you can STILL come back and win that game. So really, by that argument, the surrender function shouldn't exist at all.

The truth is you don't surrender because you think you are going to lose. You surrender because the game has become unfun or maybe even toxic. You surrender because you don't want to play that game any more with those particular team mates. So why force people to play a game they are not having fun in, which is probably going to turn into a bunch of people raging and crying for reports (as usual), when you can instead defuse the situation by giving people an early way out?

12 Comments

KingWanahakalugi12/24/2015, 5:37:53 PM5 votes

Most of the community agrees that the surrender system does need to change, so how about this:

If a player has disconnected from the game, the surrender vote opens at 10 min. A surrender would have to have 100% of the vote to be successful. - If your losing that badly and have no hope of a player returning you should all be able to agree to leave. (The surrender vote would close again until 15 minutes should the player(s) return.

With all players there, surrender vote opens at 15 minutes. Between minute 15-25 a successful surrender requires 100% of the vote to be successful. After 25 minutes a successful surrender only requires 80% of the vote.

I don't think the surrender vote should ever drop below 80%, it is acceptable to surrender if 4 people want to leave. The no voters are issues though. They are automatically counted as no's. I would like to change that so any no votes are counted as yes, and if they really want to play they should have to vote that they do.

lolptwo12/24/2015, 9:46:07 PM3 votes

The reason being is that some people take Rank much more seriously than you clearly take it.

I for example, I don't care if everyone in my team is toxic and raging. I know it happens, I would much rather prefer nice teammates but I do everything in my power to win that game. Some games that I come back to win are emotionally draining but I would MUCH rather go through an emotionally draining win than to lose 20 LP and be left 20 LP farther back than where I want to be because I had unfun teammates(which as an adult playing with the majority of teenagers and young adults happens ALL THE TIME)

Secondly it would have to make it so that duo's only have 1 vote in a group of 2. Which is basically the same as 4 votes anyways. Or else this would allow trolling by duo's

Thirdly. This is unecessary and unfair punishment for that 1 player who really wants to win and has his whole team on mute and is trying to win. It's ironic that you're looking at your own perspective of what is fun and unfun, but in reality there's other people out there who only play this game to attain ELO and Rank. Because of that I end up winning many games 5v4 or with someone who's completely trolling me. It's really unenjoyable but I simply do not want to waste 20mins of my life losing LP. I see the ONLY way of salvaging fun out of the game by winning it.

Pozzilla12/24/2015, 9:52:29 PM3 votes

No! Worst idea ever. I already lose too many ranked games to teams that only want to play when we are winning. I just had a ranked team surrender at 20 min while the game was tied, just because we got aced once. This would make climbing out of Bronze/Silver even harder than it already is.

PIMPSMOOTH12/24/2015, 5:38:58 PM3 votes

Upvoted. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

DJColdCutz12/24/2015, 5:36:31 PM3 votes

"In my opinion, the surrender vote should only require a majority 3....."

Stopped reading after that...and upvoted because I agree.

JRobin311/6/2016, 6:46:34 AM2 votes

I've read so many of these discussions and my mind has not changed: I want an option to disable the surrender vote from appearing on my HUD.

Nyanthe12/24/2015, 9:23:13 PM2 votes

Good discussion, there is a point in any game where it becomes soul destroying to push onward. That is when it is time to surrender and move on.

barbarianskull12/24/2015, 9:51:46 PM2 votes

I agree completely! Sometimes I am losing so badly but I'm playing fizz and am haveing a TON of fun so I don't surrender. But other games I tilt 10 minutes in and I wanna afk.

PLS RIOT WE NEED THIS

M15TAH JAY12/24/2015, 5:25:11 PM2 votes

yea thats why I surrender only because its not fun anymore, the enemy team just camps and farms kills, and players are being toxic