Whose the bad guy here?

A Tilted Muffin··2 votes·627 views

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This is practically the whole chat before I muted him. He starts off with that. I know I am wrong for some of the things I said too but like seriously? I afk'd that first bit until "Minions have spawned" announcement and he's SUPER butthurt. I went out of my way to remove names too because I know riot doesn't like IGN shaming :)

Do I deserve a report for "afking"? Or perhaps even the response I did? Whose more wrong here? Because I know we're both wrong because I flamed back. He even threatened me with a report like wut? LOL

Got him the next game and queue also and he persisted to engage flaming instantly again about "afk whore" haha. I'm not even mad about the little guy. Just think he needs some help xD I have one more SS of the next game just starting-ish kind of but that's not needed imo. If so lmk. I just want the communities thoughts of it lol.

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EvilDustMan3 votes

Mute, report, and move on. You are missing the last part. Move on.

Commander White2 votes

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A Tilted Muffin1 votes

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Both of you.

Obv. Stated that already, not getting the point of the thread.

Sarutobi1 votes

It doesnt matter who is more wrong. You could have been the bigger person and just ended the conversation right then and there. Was it right for the Galio to kept harassing you because you were afk? No, but that shouldnt give you a free pass to harass them as well.

A Tilted Muffin1 votes

Yeah I have a problem with letting my ego get in the way LOL.

Stay Close Dear1 votes

I would have hated to meet either of you in my game, aram is one thing but the fact this behavior is in ranked too is so unsettling. Why do you have to all chat and inform everyone that someone called you names or whatever? Why do you not realise noone wants to read that shit and its just supper annoying? Like I said, its just aram so at best its a mild annoyance and both of you can be muted. But in ranked things like that carry more weight cause they impair the team functioning and communication and just make people tilted.

If someone starts being a dick just mute them instead of trying to be a bigger one. And if you can't control yourself then at the very least dont type in all chat.

A Tilted Muffin1 votes

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I would have hated to meet either of you in my game, aram is one thing but the fact this behavior is in ranked too is so unsettling. Why do you have to all chat and inform everyone that someone called you names or whatever? Why do you not realise noone wants to read that shit and its just supper annoying? Like I said, its just aram so at best its a mild annoyance and both of you can be muted. But in ranked things like that carry more weight cause they impair the team functioning and communication and just make people tilted.

If someone starts being a dick just mute them instead of trying to be a bigger one. And if you can't control yourself then at the very least dont type in all chat.

I mean, you're practically TRYING to take away freedom of speech lol.. But that's your view :) you are right on just muting them but as I stated up there, I have an ego problem with letting someone whiny and dumb like that get away with whatever they wanna say when I see it until I've muted. If I talk in /all chat and you don't want to see it or it's tilting to you or don't care, then simply mute me from there on. Some people care about the expense of others gameplay also rather than just their own.

Like for EX: If the same thing happened to someone, I'd try to see how it plays out. If they're both talking in /all chat, see whose more toxic/flaming, then report that person also so they're punished. Not just ignore and let them get away with being a complete dick. There's a difference IMO between a toxic player and someone just TECHNICALLY retaliating. Riot doesn't see that though and that's fine. I think of it as if it happened in reality, if someone punched you, no police or people are there to witness it or say anything against it, are you going to let them get away with it and just walk away? I wouldn't. But that's just me :)

Stay Close Dear1 votes

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I mean, you're practically TRYING to take away freedom of speech lol.. But that's your view :) you are right on just muting them but as I stated up there, I have an ego problem with letting someone whiny and dumb like that get away with whatever they wanna say when I see it until I've muted. If I talk in /all chat and you don't want to see it or it's tilting to you or don't care, then simply mute me from there on. Some people care about the expense of others gameplay also rather than just their own.

Like for EX: If the same thing happened to someone, I'd try to see how it plays out. If they're both talking in /all chat, see whose more toxic/flaming, then report that person also so they're punished. Not just ignore and let them get away with being a complete dick. There's a difference IMO between a toxic player and someone just TECHNICALLY retaliating. Riot doesn't see that though and that's fine. I think of it as if it happened in reality, if someone punched you, no police or people are there to witness it or say anything against it, are you going to let them get away with it and just walk away? I wouldn't. But that's just me :)

I get what you re trying to say however :

there is a huge difference between "Galio is flaming me and wants to report just because I afked until minions spawned" and "guy so mad and salty cuz I waited blabla.. lmao." In this case you re being just as pretentious and annoying than the guy who started talking shit. I actually believe that riot system is garbage and context does matter as opposed to what they re promoting. i often feel bad for people who post in this forum after they get banned in cases where they got trolled or baited and retaliated, I wouldn't in your case though because you re getting to his level.

Also I'm not trying to take away freedom of speech, there is none in this game to begin with. Both of you are spot on for chat restrictions if reported, thats just how the riot rules are. its a video game and not real life. Here you can literally get permanently banned with a $1000 worth account for using the n word or "kys" even as a joke with no bad intent. Unlike in real life you dont have to deal with shitty people here, you can literally just mute them and forget they ever existed, which is what Riot is trying to enforce, as they have full right to do so, right or wrong.

At the end of the day its a competitive game and behavior like this just makes for a worse experience for everyone invloved. Idk about you but I certainly dont play it to see people throwing shit at eachother. Like I said, in aram it matters less but the same things happen in ranked and when they do it makes the game frustrating and not something you want to go through. Also it's not just about you and the other guy, there are still 3 people left on your team who arent automatically as shitty so why make it worse for them?

The ego part - whatever happened to self control? "I shot the guy cause he made me mad, and I get angry easily, not my fault lol". Not much to say here. If you are aware that you have ego problems then you can improve.

A Tilted Muffin1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Stay Close Dear,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EwT0bZvz,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2017-11-07T00:40:31.884+0000)

I get what you re trying to say however :

there is a huge difference between "Galio is flaming me and wants to report just because I afked until minions spawned" and "guy so mad and salty cuz I waited blabla.. lmao." In this case you re being just as pretentious and annoying than the guy who started talking shit. I actually believe that riot system is garbage and context does matter as opposed to what they re promoting. i often feel bad for people who post in this forum after they get banned in cases where they got trolled or baited and retaliated, I wouldn't in your case though because you re getting to his level.

Also I'm not trying to take away freedom of speech, there is none in this game to begin with. Both of you are spot on for chat restrictions if reported, thats just how the riot rules are. its a video game and not real life. Here you can literally get permanently banned with a $1000 worth account for using the n word or "kys" even as a joke with no bad intent. Unlike in real life you dont have to deal with shitty people here, you can literally just mute them and forget they ever existed, which is what Riot is trying to enforce, as they have full right to do so, right or wrong.

At the end of the day its a competitive game and behavior like this just makes for a worse experience for everyone invloved. Idk about you but I certainly dont play it to see people throwing shit at eachother. Like I said, in aram it matters less but the same things happen in ranked and when they do it makes the game frustrating and not something you want to go through. Also it's not just about you and the other guy, there are still 3 people left on your team who arent automatically as shitty so why make it worse for them?

The ego part - whatever happened to self control? "I shot the guy cause he made me mad, and I get angry easily, not my fault lol". Not much to say here. If you are aware that you have ego problems then you can improve.

Ego doesn't really have to do with self control but if you wanna think that that's fine also. But honestly that's true, there is no freedom of speech in this sad game. I say sad because like you said, ANYTHING that can be taken out of context and taken offensively (as little and stupid as it is) can be reported and punished/banned for it.

Also just because someone retaliates doesn't make them "Shitty" as you stated. Ego or not some people just deserve to get your ass put in place. I mean you shouldn't on the game which is like you said, what riot is trying to enforce. But everyone handles and deals with things differently. :)

Truly Prideful1 votes

You're both wrong. Just play the game, why do you need to fight with him while sitting in the spawn? It accomplishes nothing except making yourself look like a baby too. Just mute guys like that, finish the game, report them, and go on to your next game. There is no value in fighting in chat.

A Tilted Muffin1 votes

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You're both wrong. Just play the game, why do you need to fight with him while sitting in the spawn? It accomplishes nothing except making yourself look like a baby too. Just mute guys like that, finish the game, report them, and go on to your next game. There is no value in fighting in chat.

Yeah I eventually got a message saying someone I previously reported has been punished so I'm happy. Just makes it annoying when kids get a hold of the game then ruin it. Makes me kind of wished LoL was still on sale lol.

Stay Close Dear1 votes

I gave a poor example with the ego part, my bad. I mean't that wanting to offend or punish the other person back, or like you said "put their ass back in place" comes from ego and acting out on it whenever you feel like is not excusable.

When I said "shitty" I meant people who provoke those situations in the first place. And yes, retaliating can be just as bad depending on how far you take it.
If they are acting like this and you want to punish them for it at the expense of your teammates then you re a fucking asshole and no better than the one who started it. ( I'm not talking about you here, I brought this up in relation to what I said about how similar behavior appears in ranked and has way more negative impact on the game ).

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