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It is depressing to see supports are still being abused.

Asudurga··49 votes·3,237 views

I can't believe it has to be explained multiple times, yet it seems to be an ever growing trend with this community. Let me set the scenario, this has not happened to me as I primarily main top, but I guarantee at least one or a bunch of you have experienced these scenarios, and I witnessed it before from ADCs on my team.

And ADC is about to die to another, the latter's support already slain. The former's support, thinking quickly, uses a CC ability to help their ADC get away and end up getting the kill, saving their ADC in the process. You would expect a thanks right? Nope. The ADC begins flaming in chat with,"Omg useless support KS, kys dude uninstall and kys."

The lack of gratitude is startling and overall disgusting. This is quite similar to saving some lady who's being chased by some guy with a knife, instead of a simple 'thank you', you get pepper sprayed in the face and kicked in the dick, pussy or whatever you attack helicopters have.

What I'm trying to say is, be more aware of how your supports are treated, prove WatchMojo wrong that this community can take a step in the right direction by showing gratitude to your supports. Hell, why stop at supports? Show gratitude to your team when they deserve it.

EDIT: Honestly, is someone just having it out for me in particular? I make a post that has a sting of truth to it and oh will you look at that? And instant downvote. You're only proving WatchMojo's point.

65 Comments

OnlyYouCanHearMe14 votes

As a support main, I have to say that the way it is now is nothing compared to how bad it used to be for supports back in season 3-4. Sadly, there always seem to be players that do not understand that their deaths are not due to a misplay on the part of someone else on the team. Every death a player has is directly correlated to something that they specifically could have done differently. And blaming others is simply making excuses and not owning up to a mistake.

Papa Andrei1 votes

Unless you are Sion. Then being the only death in a teamfigjt is a good thing :D

Asudurga1 votes

Especially with item 3022 and item 3748

Papa Andrei1 votes

item 3022 item 3153 item 3078 item 3748 item 3087 item 3046

No one escapes

vOmvbrawfU2 votes

It could be the result of someone else. That doesn't mean you couldn't have done something differently, but it's a team game. You rely on your TEAM to do things when you're fighting. If you're a tank and engage after pings from your team, and you team just bounces on you, then you aren't exactly "making excuses and not owning up to a mistake".

OnlyYouCanHearMe1 votes

If you are jumping in on a special target, laying down hard CC and happen to die in the process... well; my friend, it was an honorable death. Only someone rather ignorant of the game mechanics would be displeased as such a noble sacrifice.

LordGeovanni1 votes

but when you play certain roles you die for helping out your teammates assuming you can attack together sure i could have not helped my team or not defended a tower to avoid getting dove but how does that help winning just by protecting a kd ratio that really has little to do with winning compared to secureing objectives

Kaioko8 votes

I'm sorry but I disagree. I have seen far more supports be complete jerks than I have ADCs. They usually sit back and complain about the team not dealing enough damage while they are not doing anything themselves and using the "I'm just support card therefore I can't do damage, CC, shield, heal" which is absolute granted.

I will say though that the rise in this is probably due to the fact that people are getting auto filled.

AirKingNeo3 votes

Yeah, I'm tired of this "Supports are the Victim" Circlejerk. It's years old and boring, especially considering in low elo a lot of supports are just as much of the problem as the AD carries.

sheldonbunny7 votes

{quoted}

And ADC is about to die to another, the latter's support already slain. The former's support, thinking quickly, uses a CC ability to help their ADC get away and end up getting the kill, saving their ADC in the process. You would expect a thanks right? Nope. The ADC begins flaming in chat with, "Omg useless support KS, kys dude uninstall and kys."

That's the exception, not the rule. In the many seasons i've been a support main, I rarely get a toxic adc to lane with. I either get neutral or honestly some very polite if not down right kind ones. Don't let a few spoiled apples ruin the whole bunch. Toxic players exist in all roles. Bot lane is a partnership, and when queuing up alone it's one taken with faith that two strangers can work together.

Hauling Ashe9 votes

Agreed. As an ADC main, I have experienced some of the most toxic players as my support partner. (Believe it or not, support mains. You aren't all saints either.) Does that mean every support flames or taunts me? No.

And it's not even League's problem. It's just the Internet, where 5% of the people make fun things miserable for the other 95%.

OnlyYouCanHearMe4 votes

teehee. My friends, who I will play with on Curse get to hear me talk verbally about the random adcs that I play with. I refuse to actually type to them what I'm thinking, but my friends would attest to sometimes I do say some rather snarky things outloud when they do derpy things. But I don't ever let THAT PLAYER know I'm thinking it, or saying it aloud. As far as they are concerned, I'm going to be ecouraging, even if the best thing I can come up with to say is "we almost had them. it's alright, we'll get them next time!"

Hauling Ashe2 votes

Unless they are legitimately trolling me, I don't usually say anything negative. But sometimes I feel like I just have to bitch and get it out, so I /w to a friend about how terrible my support is. That way I can still complain, but I don't have to tilt my team for it.

OnlyYouCanHearMe2 votes

It's like the best of both worlds. We can vent a little, but we don't end up bringing our people down! I even get to make my friends laugh, because I'm a girl, with a soft voice and a really thick southern US accent that sounds apparently hilarious when I rant xD

Hauling Ashe3 votes

LOL, that does sound hilarious.

Like when I play Riven, I have a hard time understanding how anyone could be salty playing her. She has such a tranquil voice.

OnlyYouCanHearMe4 votes

LOL!!! My first intro to Riven was watching BoxBox. And if you've ever watched him, then you know he's one of the least toxic players around. Like... he never flames. I couldn't even understand why people thought Riven players were supposed to be mean after watching him play her!

Magearna3 votes

This whole conversation was so cute and tranquil, I had to upvote every reply. You two seem like such nice people :)

OnlyYouCanHearMe1 votes

Maybe we'll get lucky and run into you in game soon!

sheldonbunny2 votes

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Agreed. As an ADC main, I have experienced some of the most toxic players as my support partner. (Believe it or not, support mains. You aren't all saints either.) Does that mean every support flames or taunts me? No.

Not all, but there's a reason that the study went out years ago showing support mains actually were the least toxic. Harder nowadays with autofill in place and anyone getting into that role. It's also dependent on elo. Lower you are, the more salty the supports typically.

LordGeovanni1 votes

if its only 5% then that 5% frequents the interent at least 43% more than most of the other 95%

SmileInABox2 votes

I always make sure to tell my support when they make a good play or save my ass. The closest I get to flaming my support is calling out when they do something flat out stupid, and they generally recognize that they fucked up. Always encourage your supports, a good support makes such a difference so you want the mains to keep doin what they're doin.

Troll for Trump5 votes

If a person is going to complain about a KS, it won't just be limited to supports. That's not a problem with supports being targeted, that's just a toxic person who'd complain about a ks from anyone.

Death threats aren't just targeted at supports.

Toxicity is the fault of the toxic player, and they aren't just maliciously targetting supports. One game, it might be the 0/10 Nami that gets flamed. Next, it's the 0/6 Draven, the 0/12 Lee Sin, etc.

midnight oil241 votes

One time when I was adc someone flamed me for ks'ing. it was really stupid.

Supreme Senpai695 votes

My ADC linked a discord chat to the team with him and his premade. Nobody joined, and I wasn't going to either because I prefer my decision making to be mine and not influenced by others. But during the loading screen I decided to join for the hell of it. They didn't know I had joined. Now I know how the average player thinks.

Mid laner: "Hey Ekko is magic or AD?" ADC: "He's AP he's gonna hit you with spells you gotta watch out man" Mid laner: "Well good thing I picked Zed lol I'll just ult him" -after he goes 0/4 Me, in-game: Hey buy a Hexdrinker -totally ignored, 15 minutes later- ADC: Hey you should buy a hexdrinker Mid laner: Oh wow thanks bro that's good that's good

Our ADC, Jinx, would save his ult for his premade literally every single time. He'd also say thing like "Wow I got so fed im 1v2'ing bot lmao" or "Dude im solo'ing drag!! Im so good" even though I was right there next to him doing the majority of the damage until he had a few items. The mid laner who clearly was brand new to the game even had the nerve to say "Its up to me and you man we gotta carry nobody else is fed" even though mid was feeding and I had a perfect KDA of like 1/0/9.

It was one of the most frustrating things to hear, and this is how people actually think / play the game. This game really makes more sense to me now. With a perfect KDA I was totally invisible to my "carries." Imagine if I made a small mistake like the ones Jinx made? I promise they'd be flaming the hell out of me over their voice comms.

YerroFever4 votes

Ever since gold and higher... I have, what some would consider "KSing", in games as a support and the response I get is "GJ!" Assist gold is better than feeding the enemy team.

Zaryelle4 votes

When you dive to get that kill (and assist for your ADC) when they just can't reach it... -"ks" ":/" "why????" "troll support" -"are you a support or adc???" (when you are 3/0/15)

When you last hit minions when ADC is gone (or when you give them relic shield charges) -"quit taking cs nub, support doesnt need gold"

AirKingNeo1 votes

This doesn't happen anymore. Unless you're in a bronze hell, which this may be happening there I'm not sure I'm not there, this doesn't happen. People these days only call KS when you're a non-offensive support who took a kill they clearly had by flashing or something.

Zaryelle1 votes

@AirKingNeo So wrong I don't even know how to reply to this, you win.

And btw, when you're in bronze, you get plenty of silvers, golds, and sometimes even plat in your game.

Out of all the times I've seen people say KS, it was only legitimately an intentional KS maybe 10% of the time.

And yes, I have had plenty of ADCs get mad at me for getting them an assist when they had zero chance of getting the kill.

AirKingNeo1 votes

No, Bronze matchmaking only uses bronze and low silver. Unlike Diamond there is enough people to make sure of this.

People in bronze happen to say KS alot. It sucks.

This is why I hate bronze but Silver is still worse.

Zaryelle1 votes

You're just assuming that matchmaking works like everyone else does. Gold and plat are not rare to be seen in Bronze. Watch any new players games and check the other players' rankings

AirKingNeo1 votes

No, that isn't bronze then. That's either bronze people with high MMR than their rank. New players aren't bronze either. Therefore trying to say they're matched with plats is irrelevant.

Zaryelle1 votes

You not seeing it doesn't mean it doesn't occur

Damagefox2 votes

Well good for you, because I am IN bronze hell, And A support. And I can say for a fact this happens almost every single game I have. I have had Adcs who would jump into a 2v1 at 5% health while I am backing (because oom). They dive in, and as I rush back to lane I see them dying to said 2v1. So while they are DEAD and waiting in respawn, I manage to clean off the enemy and see my adc flip out "OMG TROLL SUPPORT. KS KS, I'm not playing anymore. This troll support"

I have had teammates who called KS because I killed an enemy going in for last hit on them, they flip out "OMG U TOOK MY KILL!" (while they are barely hanging on for life) . YEah my fault for trying to save adcs life

also Had an adc ragequit because I killed a minion with relic shield. I explained many times what relic shield DID, and what i was doing AS HER SUPPORT, but caitlyn flipped out and ragequit because "IDGAF ur taking my CS!!!!" (and still giving her kill gold PLUS healing PLUS the bonus armor/MR from my keystone....My bad)

So No, People ARE so petty and self-centered that they will call KS on anything, Flip out on anything that doesnt go thier way, Ragequit matches that arent a complete and total snowball victory (how DARE the match actually try and present any sort of a challenge)

And for that reason I can only see this community as the maturity level of a preschool toddler. They dont get thier way so they kick and scream and swear and start throwing thier toys around at everyone around them till they get what they want.

Lexyy4 votes

Only idiots don't realize that support actually helped them.

I hate players like that, and that'a the most of the community. I just stop saving that idiot and let him die. :)

Damagefox1 votes

Yeah, I am the same way. I have a phrase I find is perfect "Dont throw your support under the bus, Then ask why they arent there to save you later"

Generally if My adc gets thier swelled head stuck up thier a$$ I will walk off and go help other lanes. but then they cry and whine about how I am "abandoning my lane" No I am not, I am abandoning a self-rightous, egotistical, narcissist lane partner that thinks support is thier personal meat shield and scapegoat. I am here to help the team win, not be used as a verbal punching bag before thrown as a scapegoat with a "we lost? ITS ALL SUPPORTS FAULT"

And yet when I warn of Incoming ganks, they are ignored. when I see enemy taking dragon and go to stop them (while pinging furiiously for assistance) I am dismissed (team just keeps farming, nothing to see at dragon) when I bring up a point or observation. team attempts to invalidate it with "stfu, u have no kills" and yet when I DO get a kill its "OMG THIS TROLL SUPPORT, AlWAYS KSing ME! REPORT!"

Telephone Booth3 votes

As a support main, if I get the kill (unless I'm brand) I immediately apologize and explain my logic behind why I took it. I usually get a reasonable response like "all gd", or "its OK at least we got it, GJ." It's been a very long time since I've gotten attitude for getting a kill. So I don't know man, I just disagree with your whole premise that this happens all the time and supports are treated like shit. Maybe it's because I've improved or my ELO has gone up and more experienced players understand what has to be done and don't flame for it. Idk, but I just have been treated with surprising respect lately. When I was new, or even when I was playing for like a year but didn't main support, I got flamed a lot as support. That was a long time ago, though.

So maybe some supports suck and their adc is just looking for some mistake they can justifiably call them out for, even though imo, it's still not justified. So they're already losing lane, they want to catch up badly (adc is that role where it's really hard to catch up if you fall behind) and their chance at making a come back is taken by their support so they just snap. It's not okay, but it happens in different ways to every lane. Like if it was a mid laner, they'd just flame their jungler.

So overall, I think supports are not special. They get flamed like every other role. Idk why people think supports deserve special treatment just because it's a role that not a lot of people want to play. It's like they think they're doing their adc a favor by playing support and deserve to be treated with the utmost respect. Every role gets shit on in some way and if you're good at your role, you'll rarely get flamed. Also, just apologize when you get the kill secure... most people understand why you got it and are disarmed by your show of respect and awareness.

Sidenote: I've never heard of watchmojo... Idk why you're so concerned about what they have to say about it. Did they write an article about it through experience? Are they a well known source of League of Legends trends and issues? If not, fuck em. Who cares what they say.

Lexyy4 votes

No, you don't get flamed because you apologize right away lol. You already belittle yourself so they dont have to.

And why would I apologize I accidentaly got the kill trying to save that useless adc? It's not like kills are only his jesus.

TheDelighted3 votes

{quoted}

or whatever you attack helicopters have.

It's apache helicopter. #TRIGGERED

Skorch3 votes

The stronger supports become, the more they are flamed by their ADCs for not being able to prevent their stupidity with more tools.

Fondling Gems2 votes

The feels man. As a support main I agree, it does feel like getting kicked in the AMG-114 Hellfire missiles.

My sexual identification is 3 down far right. https://i.imgur.com/i0ejRDc.png

JK, I sexually identify as a Gem https://image.freepik.com/free-icon/diamond-outline_318-36534.jpg

Edit: Apparently people read Gem as something Steven Universe related. Never seen the show, just a Taric main.

GrReaper962 votes

Steven Universe?

Fondling Gems2 votes

Taric main.

Magearna2 votes

WE. ARE THE CRYSTAL GEMS.

Fondling Gems1 votes

Yeah never seen steven universe. Just a Taric main.

Magearna2 votes

Taric main? Even better! :)

Awoof1 votes

As a support main myself, I shake my head each time I read these threads using the word "abuse". Otherwise I just agree with what Sheldonbunny said and similar posts. Also I still think junglers have to put up with much more shit.

Magearna2 votes

I agree (I'm also a support main). Less have I gotten shit from my ADC/team and more have I seen the jungler getting it. Junglers really do have it bad.

Solitair1 votes

Uhh what the hell is watchmojo's point? Like what what does a video channel have to do with this. Am I missing some big reference?

Damagefox2 votes

They did a list of the Top 10 most TOXIC Communities, and League was voted #1. And as a support, I can confirm this.

If I take a kill, my adc rages that I "KS" if I ping however, warning of a gank/enemy taking dragon/etc. I get Dismissed/Ignored. if I ask why I get "U got no kills" Had a Jungler tell me playing support isnt a "real role"

Been flamed for not getting any kills, for taking kills period. Been used as a constant scapegoat (If the match looks like its gonna be a loss, just blame support/jungle) People act like god damn toddlers. Just got out of a game where our top lane threatened to feed if jungle didnt drop everything to gank her lane more, despite the fact she bragged about having "more kills" than the rest of the team.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_KBnLUTMIg video in question

Asudurga1 votes

They had a top 10 list of the most toxic gaming communities, LoL ranked number one tied with Dota2.

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