the player behavior section of the boards are a cesspit

2kewl4life·11/16/2019, 4:57:28 AM·2 votes·1,964 views

Welcome to the place where people have a legitimate reason to be unbanned and are just downvoted to hell by snowflake hypocrites who use retrospect as a way of making their point. I mean, alot of the people here trying to get unbanned are actually toxic, but most the chat logs are from the typical regular league game. trolls and feeders are everywhere, and when you are on a hard grind, of course you will be enfuriated. its so undermining to say "lol just report dont be mad" because the game itself instigates toxicity by encouraging competitiveness and banning players who are simply mad that their teammate is a chimpanzee. its so easy to judge someone else for getting banned when you dont put yourself in their shoes and just look back in retrospect criticizing their every decision.

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Silent Gravity11/16/2019, 5:16:23 AM9 votes

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typical regular league game. of course you will be enfuriated the game itself instigates toxicity you dont put yourself in their shoes

If the game itself instigates toxicity, then we don't have to put ourselves in your shoes. We can view the situation from our own shoes. We play the same game. We encounter the same situations.

If you think we don't, then there must be something about your own behavior that is causing such a difference. If there is such a difference, then addressing the issue from our own perspective is again useful.

Umbral Regent11/16/2019, 5:24:51 AM7 votes

Welcome to the place where people have a legitimate reason to be unbanned...

I'd honestly like to see a couple cases that fit that description. Very rarely does it ever even seem probable that someone who got banned would have a legitimate reason to be unbanned, and even in those rare few cases, it very often turns up that their ban was properly placed and that they should stay banned.

...and are just downvoted to hell...

Complaining about downvotes does nothing. People have their own reasons for downvoting, and it usually resolves to disagreement or the OP in question being disagreeable. Regardless, downvotes don't matter.

...by [players] who use retrospect as a way of making their point.

I don't understand what you mean by this. Are we just not supposed to judge the players actions that led to the punishment?

I mean, alot of the people here trying to get unbanned are actually toxic...

This seems to run completely counter to your opening statement. So people have a legitimate reason to be unbanned...But a lot of them actually don't?

...but most the chat logs are from the typical regular league game.

Define "typical" and "regular".

trolls and feeders are everywhere...

Legitimate trolls and intentional feeders are rare, despite what you may think. Unless you're running with a premade who go out of their way to troll and int-feed, that kind of behavior isn't actually typical.

What is typical, however, is people crying "wolf" over a pug. Consider, perhaps, that the people you're calling trolls and intentional feeders aren't actually that - and that they may well just be suffering an off-game. We all have them.

...and when you are on a hard grind, of course you will be enfuriated.

Getting angry is no excuse for breaking the rules. If you know you're getting angry, take breaks. People have ample tools to prevent themselves from going overboard and breaking the rules, if you don't use them, that's your fault.

...its so undermining to say "lol just report dont be mad"...

Only a rare few people will be so unhelpful as to say "don't be mad". The majority of us understand anger, and we know it's not something that can be readily controlled, but that still doesn't excuse breaking the rules.

...because the game itself instigates toxicity by encouraging competitiveness...

Seriously, this whole rigmarole? No, the game does not instigate or encourage toxicity in its design. If you're getting super frustrated in League, the odds are high that its your own playing habits and your own nature that's causing you to get frustrated, not the game. Trying to deflect the problem and blame the game isn't going to help you in any respect.

...who are simply mad that their teammate is a chimpanzee.

Remember what I said about "players crying 'wolf' over pugs"? This is pretty much exactly that. You're getting mad because a teammate is underperforming, so you'll do anything to vilify them, calling them a troll, an intentional feeder, acting like they're out to sabotage your game...

I'm using "you" in the figurative sense, of course, but regardless, the point stands. And, I will repeat what I said earlier: If you're getting angry, take breaks. Continuing to play while angry is only likely to make that anger build up, and then it'll reach that tipping point, and you'll explode and break the rules and get yourself punished.

its so easy to judge someone else for getting banned when you dont put yourself in their shoes and just look back in retrospect criticizing their every decision.

It's also easy to ignore that we play the same game. We deal with the same situations, and we understand the frustration. It's easy to ignore the fact that, despite being forum-goers and having this detached, unbiased perspective that fundamentally seems opposed to anyone who gets punished, we don't have these fundamentally different experiences.

We deal with trolls, we deal with intentional feeders, we deal with bad games and players who are having bad games. We deal with unwinnable matches, frustrating match-ups, not getting our roles, our pick intents, everything. Don't act like we've never run into a troll or experienced the frustration of getting demoted straight after a hard climb up to a promo series.

We play the same freakin' game.

rujitra11/16/2019, 5:25:40 AM6 votes

You're wondering why you don't gain honor? Because you behave like this.

MagicFlyingLlama11/16/2019, 5:36:39 AM5 votes

Mind sharing some of these examples of "legitimate reasons to be unbanned"?

Considering the vast majority of the playerbase never get punished, never rage, and never flame, it is in fact safe to say that "dont be mad" is a fine solution. If you cant do that, worry about what is wrong with yourself before blaming everyone else. It will help a lot in the long term. Maybe PvP games are just not the right choice.

CharDeeMcDenniz11/16/2019, 11:39:04 AM1 votes

please point out the people or threads that have a "legitimate reason to be unbanned"