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Toxicity should be dealt with according to the player's rank/stats

NLGG3R BEATER··2 votes·525 views

Tbh it doesn't matter if you flame as long as you're actually good at the game. Had a Singed who massively flamed a feeding midlane Yasuo as well as the rest of the team and didn't really blame/report him as he stomped his lane and tried his hardest to carry teamfights while the yasuo kept splitpushing and feeding his ass off; we lost the game as the enemy mid laner completetly outclassed us.

Now some people gonna prattle how toxicity destroys games and ruins the fun aspect but that's just silly. You can always go on and mute the flamer but you CANNOT ignore the feeder who will you cost you LP and fuck up your MMR (my MMR dropped from plat 5 to gold 3 off that 1 game somehow, but that's besides the point).

Idk about others but I'd rather have an ultra toxic Singed over a garbage ass boosted feeding Yasuo any day of the week. If you have good overall stats and did well in a specific game you should get the right to flame the monkeys that hold you back from climbing, that's the very least they deserve. However if you're a silver 4 Riven with negative winrate and try to talk big then you definitely deserve the ban hammer.

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Chermorg8 votes

See, it does matter if you flame ever.

I play this game to have fun. I play with friends who are diamond. I play with friends who are bronze. I play across a lot of different ELOs.

I never want to have to watch people abuse other players. I don’t care if I’m playing a custom, a normal, ranked, featured, or if I’m playing hopscotch outside. I should not have to watch people abuse other players. And Riot agrees with the majority of the player base who plays this game casually and doesn’t want to see that from anyone - carrying or feeding.

NLGG3R BEATER1 votes

Based on your comment and the fact that you're unranked I assume you're a casual player yourself. If you take ranked seriously and actually try to climb but get low iq feeders that fuck up your games and slow down your climb you might feel differently.

The 'majority' of the player base are bronze/silver/unranked so it's logical they're gonna disagree with this; however almost all high elo friends I know agree it's okay to trash talk if you know what you are doing.

Chermorg2 votes

You assume this is my only current account and that I've never had a ranked account. Both of those are faulty assumptions.

There's a difference between a little trash talk and outright flaming.

One passive aggressive "wow nice hook noob" isn't going to get you punished. Constantly flaming your team or the enemy will.

Drugoth6 votes

"I shouldn't get punished for flaming because I believe I'm better than someone at a game."

Seriously?

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NLGG3R BEATER1 votes

It doesn't matter what I 'believe', if I have better ranked stats as well as better performance in a specific game than someone I flamed then I am the better player, and frankly riot can access these stats easily. But yes, my point stands.

Drugoth1 votes

Okay, so you can look up match history to prove that you're a better player than them. Why do you think that should give you some kind of special treatment when it comes to toxicity?

archerno13 votes

{quoted}

It doesn't matter what I 'believe', if I have better ranked stats as well as better performance in a specific game than someone I flamed then I am the better player, and frankly riot can access these stats easily. But yes, my point stands.

If u are together in game, that means you are of similar skill. You arent better player, you just didnt lane against same opponent as he did. Whos to say that if you laned against same person as Yasuo that you wouldnt also feed?

NLGG3R BEATER1 votes

Ah, so you went with the "he was just having a bad game" argument. Yasuo went 0-6 in lane, kept split pushing bot lane without wards and feeding, then went top lane and fed a couple kills. When crucial teamfights occured yasuo was too far behind and the enemy Ekko was too far ahead that he crushed my backline with his ult alone. It wasn't only about the laning phase.

And yes, I might have fed if I played mid lane but that's because I don't play mid lane unlike the mastery lvl 7 yas; I play jungle exclusively.

archerno14 votes

{quoted}

Ah, so you went with the "he was just having a bad game" argument. Yasuo went 0-6 in lane, kept split pushing bot lane without wards and feeding, then went top lane and fed a couple kills. When crucial teamfights occured yasuo was too far behind and the enemy Ekko was too far ahead that he crushed my backline with his ult alone. It wasn't only about the laning phase.

And yes, I might have fed if I played mid lane but that's because I don't play mid lane unlike the mastery lvl 7 yas; I play jungle exclusively.

So what? He played bad that game. He made mistakes. Big fkin deal. He shouldnt get banned for having a bad game.

And being better doesnt give u right to flame someone.

Silent Gravity1 votes

There's a forum game called "Wish Granted" where the next person in line grants the wish of the person before them, but attaches a silly condition that makes the wish not work as intended. I'm going to pretend we're playing that game.

Wish granted: players can flame underperforming players, but, a single bad game permanently revokes the privilege. That means that you lost your privilege with that 1/7/0 Master Yi game.

SecondAirbane2 votes

that doesnt prove shit you could be just placed silver 5 on a fresh account have that mmr and stomp everygame

you're not as good as your teammates unless you're hardstuck until then you're better than your teammates

zPOOPz5 votes

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Galacius3 votes

{quoted}

Tbh it doesn't matter if you flame as long as you're actually good at the game. Had a Singed who massively flamed a feeding midlane Yasuo as well as the rest of the team and didn't really blame/report him as he stomped his lane and tried his hardest to carry teamfights while the yasuo kept splitpushing and feeding his ass off; we lost the game as the enemy mid laner completetly outclassed us.

Now some people gonna prattle how toxicity destroys games and ruins the fun aspect but that's just silly. You can always go on and mute the flamer but you CANNOT ignore the feeder who will you cost you LP and fuck up your MMR (my MMR dropped from plat 5 to gold 3 off that 1 game somehow, but that's besides the point).

Idk about others but I'd rather have an ultra toxic Singed over a garbage ass boosted feeding Yasuo any day of the week. If you have good overall stats and did well in a specific game you should get the right to flame the monkeys that hold you back from climbing, that's the very least they deserve. However if you're a silver 4 Riven with negative winrate and try to talk big then you definitely deserve the ban hammer.

May I ask you a question? The majority of players are in the Bronze and Silver elos (which means there's a lot of opinions here), so how would this work if say two silvers flame each other versus two platinum players? Wouldn't they in this case be treated the same despite their rank (the system we have now) or should the platinum players be punished less severely even though they were as toxic as the silver players?

I am not saying you're argument or suggestion is wrong, but I am saying that what's wrong with the system now and why do you want this change? I think we should address this first.

NLGG3R BEATER1 votes

That's a fair point. Well in the case of the platinum players it really still depends on their stats. One could be legit boosted and the other could be a diamond+ smurf for all we know. If both have similar overall stats as well close KDA's/CS scores etc. then the flame is unjustified and should not be tolerated.

In the case of the silver players if both players have 100+ games in silver and a 50-ish percent winrate or below then they're both trash and they lose all flaming privileges. Being a "better player" is relative here.

Point is, this suggestion will lead to a safe way for good players to vent their rage and frustration and also act as a punishment to dumbasses who can't stop with the feeding and keep attempting reckless playing instead of coordinating with the team and accept to get carried. Being a jackass isn't punishable in the current system sadly.

Galacius2 votes

If I may, I think the main issue is that people are being "jackasses" and are intentionally feeding or having their skill level being lower than their current rank. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong here. I don't think this deals with rank, but the actions taken by players in those elos. I will argue that these actions are taken in all elos and all ranks regardless of whether they're good at the game or not. Therefore, why should we change the punishment system for elo when the root issue seems to be happening at all ranks/elos?

ModPeriscope2 votes

You can report on whatever ticks you off. Punishing one form of toxicity and not another seems a little weird, though.

xkillertenzo1 votes

Why should it matter? Thats like saying a rich person has more rights then a poor person. Everyone is equal even in LoL. If you got banned don't expect Riot to unban you.

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