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20 minute FF creates Toxicity.

Tocosrevenge·1/3/2016, 10:02:59 PM·3 votes·1,097 views

You want a toxic free environment so bad? Remove the 20 minute Surrender. Make it 5-10 minutes.

To honestly expect people to sit there for 20 minutes in a game that was over in the first 2 minutes is 100% what causes people to flame others.

I don't even need to add more to this post because its common sense. You expect people to wait and set up a game @ approx. 10 mins from que to game start. Then be force to play another 20 minutes minimum. You start taking a half an hour out of peoples lives and they are going to start getting angry. When 3/5 of your team have 5 deaths already at 5 minute mark its a joke to make them wait until the 20 minute mark. Honestly Riot is setting people up to be toxic so they can ban them, and have them start a new account raking in more and more money throwing out more and more bans. Riot is bad people.

EDIT: I keep seeing lots of downvotes and people flaming me for being a noob, but only 1 logical response to the post. GJ community, you are good at foruming.

30 Comments

DeynaTaggerung1/3/2016, 10:29:45 PM5 votes

There are very few situations where the game has actually been decided by the 10 minute mark(very very few) simply because fed players can be shut down, cohesive mid game decisions and teamfights can easily swing gold back, and consistent csing makes the kill gold a smaller percent of the overall gold. The only place it's been decided is inside your head and possibly the heads of your teammates.

On the mental side of things, you probably shouldn't consider a losing game a waste of time, because then you'll waste half your time playing League (Your MMR will change till your winrate settles around 50%) and that really doesn't sound like a great idea. Learning to find meaning in just playing the game as best you're able is really helpful. Learning to get better at your champ's mechanics, learning how to play from behind. Make smaller goals to shut down their most fed member, try to do an effective split push, think about how you could position in teamfights to be more effective(teamfigting when you don't have the power to just charge in is a tricky business and actually really fun to pull off). There's so much you can learn and enjoy while "losing" that I don't think you need to just run away as fast as you can. Who knows, you might actually win ;)

Of course if you can't afford to put in a chunk of time for each game then maybe League isn't necessarily the game for you? It's the nature of the game that each match is a time commitment.

Zen Fury1/3/2016, 10:24:36 PM4 votes

Opposing team scored touchdown on opening kickoff. Clearly the game is over. #nologic

BeatzBoyFTW1/4/2016, 2:00:56 AM4 votes

Oh great, so now you want people to surrender just because:

someone gave off first blood.
having a lower CS advantage of 3.
when your mid laner plays Galio instead of your everyday Zed.

This is so pathetic.....

xReadyPlayerOnex1/4/2016, 1:53:41 AM3 votes

Do you have ANY idea how many games I've WON while 1 asshole and 2 people agreeing with him spam surrender from 20 minutes to 50 minutes?

I'm for removing FF altogether. You're there to win. Not to give up half way through. It's FUCKING DEATHMATCH... you don't give up cause you need to make a sammich.

IR3ALLY3NJOYC0CK1/3/2016, 10:21:49 PM2 votes

didnt you just post the other day talking about how you were banned? Add me on your smurf after your permaban.

HEAljvLykd1/3/2016, 10:07:18 PM2 votes

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Immane1/3/2016, 11:35:54 PM1 votes

I think they should remove FF altogether and stop allowing players to chat with each other =) Make it so if you AFK for a game you get banned for a week. Then see what happens.