Fizz and Yassou fed, and then rage quit within seconds of each other... Then Yi, Fiddle and Myself played out the rest of the game as best as we could. We didn't surrender, but why would we have had to wait until 20 minutes? The game was clearly over when they went afk. I have lots of hope but 2 people feeding their lanes then afk? I'm not Faker.
Dehitay5 votesThere really should be a decrease from the 20 min limit of about 5 minutes per disconnect/afk
IAMALLAH20144 votesI agree with you I hope those two get permabans. They give people permas for nothing, atleast these two deserve it.
Swallower2 votesYassou????
Yasuo
Sorry, couldn't resist.
TrulyBland1 votesGames "like this" can't be surrendered earlier for the same reason why obvious feeders/trolls "like this" as well as obvious scripters/cheaters/hackers "like this" are not banned immediately. Pointing at something and saying "like this" is a very nice way to explain something to a human, but defining something for a program can take a bit more effort :P
And when something happens very rarely, it might simply not even be worth the effort of trying to define it in the first place. Sure, all of this doesn't really matter to you when these things do happen. But that's simply the way things work.
Applesaucey4 votesGames "like this" can't be surrendered earlier for the same reason why obvious feeders/trolls "like this" as well as obvious scripters/cheaters/hackers "like this" are not banned immediately. Pointing at something and saying "like this" is a very nice way to explain something to a human, but defining something for a program can take a bit more effort :P
And when something happens very rarely, it might simply not even be worth the effort of trying to define it in the first place. Sure, all of this doesn't really matter to you when these things do happen. But that's simply the way things work.
Except in this case it is simple as fuck.
If dcplayers > 0 { surrenderTime = 15 if dcplayers > 1 { surrenderTime = 10 } }
Boom problem solved.
xReadyPlayerOnex2 votesExcept in this case it is simple as fuck.
If dcplayers > 0 { surrenderTime = 15 if dcplayers > 1 { surrenderTime = 10 } }
Boom problem solved.
Oh, exactly, like I said, NOT FUCKING HARD. Great post.
xReadyPlayerOnex3 votesGames "like this" can't be surrendered earlier for the same reason why obvious feeders/trolls "like this" as well as obvious scripters/cheaters/hackers "like this" are not banned immediately. Pointing at something and saying "like this" is a very nice way to explain something to a human, but defining something for a program can take a bit more effort :P
And when something happens very rarely, it might simply not even be worth the effort of trying to define it in the first place. Sure, all of this doesn't really matter to you when these things do happen. But that's simply the way things work.
I'm fairly certain a billion dollar company like RIOT can hire a 30k a year coder to write "IF team A is 25 kills > Team B and Team B has 1 d/c person afk for 120 seconds then surrender timer = 10 minutes". I'm not a "RIOTER" but I know it isn't half as fucking hard to do ANY of the shit in this game as they make it out to be. At the core, all this shit is just 1's and 0's, that's it. Nothing more. If x then y. Period, the end. It's not hard. You guys who really know nothing about it need to stop defending bullshit.
TrulyBland2 votesI'm fairly certain a billion dollar company like RIOT can hire a 30k a year coder to write "IF team A is 25 kills > Team B and Team B has 1 d/c person afk for 120 seconds then surrender timer = 10 minutes". I'm not a "RIOTER" but I know it isn't half as fucking hard to do ANY of the shit in this game as they make it out to be. At the core, all this shit is just 1's and 0's, that's it. Nothing more. If x then y. Period, the end. It's not hard. You guys who really know nothing about it need to stop defending bullshit.
Okay... and now you shaved off a few minutes for these one in a thousand games. You've also managed to give incentive for people to actively feed in certain scenarios, so they can surrender earlier.
This is what I meant with it not being worth the effort. If you define it too loosely, you open up possible abuse cases; if you define it too strictly it's not actually worth the effort that could be taken elsewhere.
Edit: The other solution doesn't even have a timer for how long people are disconnected. Want to surrender already, while in a premade? Just have one of your buddies d/c... if the surrender goes through, yay, if it doesn't, have him reconnect. Without actually being offline for that long, there's not going to be any repercussions.
xReadyPlayerOnex1 votesOkay... and now you shaved off a few minutes for these one in a thousand games. You've also managed to give incentive for people to actively feed in certain scenarios, so they can surrender earlier.
This is what I meant with it not being worth the effort. If you define it too loosely, you open up possible abuse cases; if you define it too strictly it's not actually worth the effort that could be taken elsewhere.
Edit: The other solution doesn't even have a timer for how long people are disconnected. Want to surrender already, while in a premade? Just have one of your buddies d/c... if the surrender goes through, yay, if it doesn't, have him reconnect. Without actually being offline for that long, there's not going to be any repercussions.
Stop over complicating shit like you know... Any system you put into has the potential for abuse. Policing that kinda crap is just part of the game. Every game has hackers and cheats and abusers... but you don't go... omg... we're not putting out that part of the game cause those guys might fuck it up for people...
Intentional feeding is already banned. This would HELP the process.
And repercussions? You're choosing to lose the game... THAT'S the repercussion. you lose LP, you lose the game... Your scenario makes no sense, the people STILL IN THE GAME then have to vote on it... LIKE NORMAL.
TrulyBland2 votesStop over complicating shit like you know... Any system you put into has the potential for abuse. Policing that kinda crap is just part of the game. Every game has hackers and cheats and abusers... but you don't go... omg... we're not putting out that part of the game cause those guys might fuck it up for people...
Intentional feeding is already banned. This would HELP the process.
And repercussions? You're choosing to lose the game... THAT'S the repercussion. you lose LP, you lose the game... Your scenario makes no sense, the people STILL IN THE GAME then have to vote on it... LIKE NORMAL.
Yes, but you weigh abuse vs use. Which people that say "This is so easy... just go if x then y!" rarely do. I'm not even saying that lowering the surrender-timer in certain cases isn't a good idea. I'm just annoyed by this attitude that everything is super simple... which just stems from people oversimplifying things and not even beginning to think about how their addition could break certain things.
Intentional feeding isn't "banned", it's a bannable offense. The difference? People can do it until they're banned, which is why giving any incentive to feed is a pretty bad idea, given that the entire idea behind making it a bannable offense is to stop people from doing it. And the repercussion is for surrendering... but surrendering in that case is what they were aiming to do. The repercussion should come for abusing the system. And sure, the people still in the game have to vote on it, but if that's your argument why not remove the timer alltogether? I mean, people will still vote on it.
HEAljvLykd1 votesDidn't you just get off of a 2 week ban? I'm telling you, make your smurf before you get permabanned really soon now.
Tocosrevenge2 votesIm sorry but I just don't see where anything I did would earn me a perma ban? I only type GLHF, GJ, and GGWP all game... Unless you're saying I was trolled by 2 people so Riot is going to ban me, which is more likely.
IAMALLAH20141 votesYou have proof of somebody getting double trolled, he played the entire game through without flaming or even slightly going afk... Yeah he better watch out he definitely is a player who should be removed from the community.