Suggestion/Discuss: Won't removing All Chat reduce toxic behaviour?

Derenik··5 votes·989 views

After playing Paragon, I've realised that toxic behaviour is not as big there (yet). Not as many people play it as League probably.

But one thing I noticed was that you can't write to the enemy team, and in my opinion, that takes away a big power of being toxic. I had one game in Paragon where someone raged a lot, but none of us other 4 on the team were responding, so he gradually just went quiet cause he had no one else to complain to.

Now in League, if being toxic doesn't give a reaction from your team, people tend to write in all chat to complain. This then makes the teammates respond cause the toxic person might spread lies saying that their teammates are toxic etc and should get reported. Teammates then try to defend themselves so they dont get falsely reported in fear of being punished. Then the all chat fiasco happens where everyone write stuff to vent or to defend or to attack, etc etc etc.

So my question is to you and to Riot is: Won't just removing all chat help reduce toxic behaviour?

In my opinion, all chat let's ragers vent their frustration to an enemy team who has no idea what has been said in teamchat, so the rager tries to get them on their side to ask for reports or just to complain. I could do without all chat if it reduced toxic behaviour.

Share your thoughts.

11 Comments

Packun Flower4 votes

Yes and no. You have the option to remove all chat in the oprion in game. But i have always been against the feature to begin with.

I literally have no reason to ever hear anything or be talking to the enemy team for any reason at all, ever. Anything that needs to be said be it trash talk or compliments can be said AFTER the game is done.

Warlord Scrap2 votes

Then why not turn it off for you. Why make it get turned off for every other player. Guess what your part of the problem with league right now and let me explain why. When i first started playin online game there were no report systems(or they were total jokes) anyway i got tired of toxicity so i made a few online friends played with them alot. I still remeber some of the late night convoa between all friends that would probably get me banned on league were we to have the same convos. Now these new people are like i dont like it so it has to be banned. Dont wanna see curse (language filter). Someone tilting you wit trash talk (mute). Dont wanna see all chat (turn it off)
What im trying to say because this isnt a personal attack more an attack on this he said mean things to me now im going to go cry mindset. When we were kids do you remeber the old sticks and stones may break my bones. Really pre schoolers have more resilancey than adults now a days because every one is a special snowflake. Honestly it baffles me how something someone you dont know or will ever meet sayin something stupid like "your a rere" can offend someone. Why not just brush it off.

Packun Flower2 votes

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Then why not turn it off for you. Why make it get turned off for every other player. Guess what your part of the problem with league right now and let me explain why.

I am pretty sure the first thing i wrote in my post was you could turn of all chat in the options. Maybe you missed that part though because when you read the rest of my post you got so offended by my opinion you just had to call me out.

What you point out is not people getting upset over the silliest remarks towards them, it is what the community as a whole has deemed unacceptable behaviour. Not everyone will agree with the community norm and it is usually those people who are toxic and removed from the community. If you dont like the community and its rules then you simply dont belong in it and should not be here to begin.

You might think its okay to call people bad, feeders, useless teammates, stupid players, autistic and more but the league community does not find that to be acceptable and its why people with that kind of attitude are punished and eventually removed.

So no, I am not part of the problem. People who cant understand that are part of the problem.

Warlord Scrap1 votes

No i actually meant to reply to op not u but using the boards on the phone is difficult at time.

Derenik1 votes

It's funny you're attacking me about being sensitive instead of just having a discussion. Not once did I said I'm Crying about the toxic behaviour. I don't really care if people are toxic, I don't pay attention to it.

I'm starting a dialogue on how to reduce being toxic. I can already tell you're part of the toxic Community by your response, so yes you are part of the problem, as the other person also could see it plainly.

Thanks for your "input" and goodbye! :)

Warlord Scrap1 votes

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It's funny you're attacking me about being sensitive instead of just having a discussion. Not once did I said I'm Crying about the toxic behaviour. I don't really care if people are toxic, I don't pay attention to it.

I'm starting a dialogue on how to reduce being toxic. I can already tell you're part of the toxic Community by your response, so yes you are part of the problem, as the other person also could see it plainly.

Thanks for your "input" and goodbye! :)

Im actually not toxic in game. The point is there so many forum post anymore about what toxic and what not. ggez is not toxic (though riot says it is and its there game so i wouldnt suggest saying it). Calling out a bad play is also not toxic because even in real sports announcers call out bad plays all the time thats just competion. Toxicity is using racial slurs and personal attacks and at that point why not just mute them.

YerroFever2 votes

Most of the toxic chat I have seen comes from teammates raging against each other.

Very few instances in this forum have I seen people talking about the enemy teammate. I can distinctly remember 3 instances where an opponent was using racial slurs, homophobic language, and saying awful things to try and get under my skin and I just muted them and reported it afterwards. Honestly it made me laugh and smile a bit because I knew they had become tilted so much that they were resorting to hate speech to try and tilt me.

I actually use all chat in game to just chat with the enemy team and make awful league puns and get laughs out of them and usually they join in with the puns and it makes the game light hearted.

PatientPoet1 votes

I rarely have an issue with /all chat though, it's almost always teammates being toxic to each other.

Edit: I will also add, that I don't consider trash talk toxic. I consider trash talk between opposing teams normal behavior in a competitive environment. So maybe this colors my perspective. Now, negative behavior of any kind between teammates I find boring, wasteful and counter-productive.

JackMcSnipeyz1 votes

But this is a multiplayer game and interacting with other people is part of the experience. Or do you want a "club penguin" safe chat with premade words? I sure as hell dont

OurLestrade1 votes

Most of it is from the team you're in. The HotS crowd that refuses to accept any criticism for their perfect game always seem to miss that point when they go on about there being no all chat and junk.

R181 votes

No, because most of the flame comes from your own teammates

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