Riot gave us free wards. USE THEM!

DJarpa·8/30/2017, 12:35:03 PM·21 votes·1,336 views

I am kinda getting sick of plying support and my bot ADC or mid having 2 unused for the first 8 minutes of the game. And then we get ganged from an unwarded angle. And then for having the audacity to ask them to ward using the wards that literally cost nothing i get insulted and flamed like i am literally worse than (Insert random horrible historical person).

Riot should add some kind of reminder to people that you do in fact have a free ward. I understand saving 1 as an anty brush tool but there is no reason to not use at lest 1 early game so you dont get ganked.

6 Comments

BottleCapster8/30/2017, 5:16:14 PM2 votes

lol I wish we still had access to item 3361 . That said I kind of feel your pain, but most carries I get tend to be pretty cooperative. Just ping your charges once and ask them if they could ward the bush and most of them from my experience will use a ward for you so long as it doesn't put them in too much risk. Also seriously I can't stress enough the only one ping thing. Only ping I use multiple of is Missing and that's about 2-3 times on our area to make sure our teammates hear it.

BushidoBlade8/30/2017, 10:34:29 PM2 votes

idk, I played long before trinkets were a thing, and I continue to dislike trinkets, although being forced to use them. It noob-ified the game and players no longer can purchase a green ward. We are forced to buy sweeper ward which are visible to everyone who wants to face check a bush (sometimes used to our advantage) but I think trinkets just made the game too safe.

I feel like if you wanted safety before trinkets, you bought a green vision ward for 75g and you are safe for 3min, or pink ward which were invisible and permanent until cleared out, but now everyone has a trinket to keep safe from level 1 onward, making jungler role more difficult (trinkets also make level 1 invades a lot less effective). I like that we are all limited to one sweeper ward and 3 regular wards each, but hardly anyone will cap out on wards with the exception of support and maybe poacher's knife junglers. I wish they would nerf the uptime of trinket wards or remove them and bring back green wards, as it will make the game less safe and easier to punish bad players as it was before trinkets in s4 but I can't see riot removing them now as we've seen the past 3 seasons with trinkets implemented already

I wish boots didn't take an item slot. I wish it wasn't tank meta right now, I wish for a lot of things that I know won't necessarily come true. I could also bitch about combat stealth and the lack of true sight items but i guess i'll save that for another time.

TL;DR: the game isn't perfect and it will never be, and we may as well get used to it. there is always going to be something to gripe about, but that keeps it interesting (?) lol. tbh i'm fine with this game but certain metas do bother me more than they should. item balancing (stoneplate, bramble vest) still needs work but other than that, this game is pretty OK. Rammus

The DrBonjigollo8/30/2017, 5:20:17 PM1 votes

A lot of the time adc's focus more on farming/poking than warding because some people are still stuck in the "that's the support's job" mentality OR they use their wards in the side bushes to keep enemy supports Blitzcrank Thresh Nautilus from easy engages or kills when they could just stay behind minions.

The main problem I find with warding is counter-warding and the wards themselves. item 3340 s don't last too long and have a long-ish recharge rate. item 3363 may be useful for further distances but it has an even worse cooldown, lower vision and while it can last forever anyone can kill it without a counter ward item. item 2055 are probably the most useful as they provide more vision and disable most traps ( Shaco boxes still work sort of) but again, while it can last forever anyone can kill it without a counter ward item. And you can't get any more when late game hits.

This in addition to item 3147 item 2055 item 3364 clearing wards every 90 secs for 8 secs/ 75gs/ 90-60secs, I sometimes find it pointless to ward something/buy a control ward only for it to be cleared seconds after I put it down. Among all the places to ward the best areas are the most commonly known so it's easy for a support with Oracles to just stroll down the obvious path. Putting a ward in the less common areas are less useful unless you understand the exact pathing of your enemies.

Those are probably the reasons others don't ward much but that's just my 2 cents. :L

VictoriousBard8/30/2017, 5:25:59 PM1 votes

Control wards stopped disabling traps a long time ago. All traps, not just Shaco boxes.

ImTheSideKick8/30/2017, 10:37:17 PM1 votes

this is why I went from a support main to jungle main. even with 4 wards out there is to many people that don't use theirs and then are like "gg no vision support sucks"

AirKingNeo8/30/2017, 10:53:29 PM1 votes

You need lane pressure to ward. Wards don't slow either so you can be ganked through wards.