Seriously? Our jungle was flaming me, so I said he was trash (literally, said he was trash one time, didn't insult his family or make death threats or anything) and then muted him.
After the game, I got a notification of a 15 day suspension, plus the transcript of that exact game.
Riot pls your automated system sucks.
Is there anyone who knows what I can do about this?
zPOOPz1 votesPlease post full unedited chat logs
Odreiw1 votesOn re-reading, I said, "Trash. You fucked up don't blame me garbage jg" then I muted him. So I also used the word garbage once. Then I called the top laner boosted, then muted him, also because he started flaming me (when I was doing fine). So I'm not as much of an angel as I thought, but, as far as League goes, it's pretty far from actually toxic.
Game 1 Odreiw: gl hf Odreiw: go cait go I believe in your solo invade Odreiw: kass f Odreiw: has no f or tp Odreiw: man nobody at this elo ever ganks the pre-6 kass with no sums Odreiw: I don't get it Odreiw: kha f Odreiw: muted Odreiw: and ping mtued Odreiw: trash Odreiw: you fucked up don't blame me garbage jg Odreiw: because your jg has helped you Odreiw: and mine hasn't Odreiw: and got the kill on ez too Odreiw: because he's an idiot and overstayed Odreiw: then he flamed me for it, also because he's an idiot Odreiw: free =/= dying for it Odreiw: usually Odreiw: boosted top too Odreiw: Feeding all over Odreiw: nice Odreiw: toxic too Odreiw: kass no f Odreiw: rip Odreiw: idk about flashes Odreiw: I think he had an aneurysm Odreiw: idk I muted ren and ez Odreiw: rip Odreiw: and muted Odreiw: jesus 3/4 of you are toxic af Odreiw: but I guess our jg shouldn't listen to the guy with the 66% winrate when he calls for a gank Odreiw: on kass with no sums or ult Odreiw: ? Odreiw: I have 3 of them muted idk what they're saying Odreiw: yeah that's why I muted them Odreiw: ty for shield naut Odreiw: I can't 1v1 kass Odreiw: gg Odreiw: report 3/5 of my teammates rip Odreiw: 3/4 Odreiw: for verbal Odreiw: ty
RallerenP2 votesDo you have any previous punishments?
This chatlog is pretty toxic, and it's definently worth punishing. If you had a previous punishment I would call you lucky for only getting a 14 day ban.
Odreiw1 votesIt looks more toxic than it is, by virtue of not including time stamps. I'm not claiming I was calm and supportive or anything, but the negative comments were at a single time, not distributed throughout the game.
Xidphel1 votesDo you have any previous punishments?
Odreiw1 votesYes. This is League; it's not the first time I've gotten mad for being blamed for someone else's mistakes, and it probably won't be the last. I have indeed worked my way up through both the 10 and 25 game chat restrictions, although the 25 literally involved my jungler running down my lane and inting repeatedly, then having my teammates tell me it was my fault for not helping him when he dove someone with flash and barrier at level 2. Fun times.
Xidphel1 votesLike I said previously, your punishments are based on your own actions. You weren't punished because your jungled or your teammates.
Odreiw2 votesI absolutely was toxic to them after they did the above. I agree, I didn't get punished because he inted; I got punished because I insulted my teammates after they decided to be dickheads.
VoIdymort7 votesyet another flamer with selective reading...
Odreiw2 votesIf Riot gave out the ACTUAL chat logs, rather than just my own comments, you'd see some actual flaming. RIP judgemental people on the internet.
Xidphel2 votesYour punishment is based on your own actions. Mute now instead of after multiple comments like yours.
Odreiw1 votesYes.
Edit: why am I being downvoted for agreeing with this? People these days be cray.
VoIdymort2 voteswether or not other people flamed you first does not give you a justifiable reason to flame back so the complete chat logs are both unnecessary and irrelevant
Odreiw1 votesContext matters fam. If you don't get that, you're gonna have a bad time in life. Have a good day.
VoIdymort1 votesContext matters fam.
not in league in-game chat. if you don't get that you're gonna keep getting punsihed and blame riot for it
as far as the people handling your reports are concerned there is NEVER a justifiable reason for you to flame back
[sg-ahri-2]
zPOOPz2 votesI will admit that in the vast sea of toxicity, this is fairly mild stuffs.
One of the report option is "negative attitude" because let's face it, no one wants to play with someone who brings the team morale down by constantly complaining, flaming, trolling, etc. If you re-read your log one more time with the negative attitude parameter in mind, you will see that you were very negative in this game.
As I've said, this log is quite mild and very unlikely to warrant a punishment on its own. Rito keeps a running record of all your confirmed reported toxic games no matter how mild it is. Once your account toxic meter reaches a certain threshold, you will get punished in the next game that pushes your meter over that limit regardless of how mild it is, such as this log. Rito punishment also works in tier. First you get 10 chat restriction, then you get 25 chat restriction, then you get 14-day ban (which is where you are), then next step is perma ban. Keep in mind that your account toxic meter doesn't go down after your last punishment. It will still be high and it doesn't take much to push you into the next tier punishment, even mild stuffs like this log. Your account toxic meter will get "diluted" after you've played a number of games without getting confirmed toxic report against you. It does takes a lot of games though. I would advice you to keep in mind that your account toxic meter is quite high right now and just.....maybe not chat for a while to let your meter go down a bit.
The only reason you would get 14-day ban for this mild log is if you got 25 games chat restriction within the past 2,3 months or you are leaving out some other information. You got 14-day because of your aforementioned toxic meter and this mild log probably pushes it over the limit.
Odreiw1 votesGood to know. I'm a fairly calm player most of the time, but I am aware that being blamed by other players for mistakes that I was not even involved in is a pretty easy way to set me off (also, basically the only way, but fairly easy). The exact same situation is what got me chat restricted previously.
MadMad Sickness1 votesOn re-reading, I said, "Trash. You fucked up don't blame me garbage jg" then I muted him. So I also used the word garbage once. Then I called the top laner boosted, then muted him, also because he started flaming me (when I was doing fine). So I'm not as much of an angel as I thought, but, as far as League goes, it's pretty far from actually toxic.
If you have been reported before and have come from being punished before, this ban is directly from your lack of reform and from your continual toxicity and negative attitude.
That comment alone, in addition to your negativity and previous punishments is enough for this 14-day ban.
You are on your way to a full perma-ban. What I suggest is you reform your behavior and become aware of how riot wants you to respond to toxicity, which is by not responding to or instigating it.
The moment the chat goes toxic is when you should mute another player that is harassing you. At the end of the game, you can report that person and move on.
You really, really need to work on reforming your behavior, I can't stress this enough to you. Even if you are caught again responding in low-toxicity to another person's toxicity: you could effectively trigger your perma. To prevent this, you need to reform even your mild-toxicity and try to play with reformed behavior for at-least a whole year to clear up your toxicity rating.
Odreiw1 votesYes. Thank you for the extra information.
Drugoth1 votesMan, you can't let yourself get pulled into arguments like this, they accomplish nothing useful and usually people just end up getting punished from it.
Odreiw1 votesYes. I am aware of it, and that's literally the only situation I'm even remotely negative, but it's still hard to ignore it when people start going after me for things that aren't my fault =\. Not that I'm saying I shouldn't ignore it, just that it's hard to keep in mind in the moment.
Jo0o1 votesIf this was really the only time you've ever been negative, you'd be looking at a 10-game chat restriction instead of a two-week ban.
Verbally Abusing1 votesIf this was really the only time you've ever been negative, you'd be looking at a 10-game chat restriction instead of a two-week ban.
If your really toxic you can go right to 14 days.
Odreiw1 votesIf you see the other comments, I have been previously chat restricted (also for getting mad when the jungler starts flaming me because he does something stupid). However, the system has specific phrases that will get you temporarily suspended even without a prior punishment.
Verbally Abusing1 votes15 DAY BAN?!? Fought it was 14 day.
Odreiw1 votesMight be 15 because it's 14 days after the day it starts, but it's definitely 15 at the moment.
Verbally Abusing1 votesMight be 15 because it's 14 days after the day it starts, but it's definitely 15 at the moment.
It starts as soon as you get the message so 14 days
General Esdeath 1 votesDude your chat logs are extremely toxic.
Odreiw1 votesAlthough I can't prove it, since Riot makes poor choices and leaves out all context (ie the rest of the chat), the stuff my team was throwing around (especially at me) was far worse than calling someone trash one time. As far as League goes, I am nowhere near extremely toxic.
General Esdeath 2 votesYour team doesn't make YOU say anything, they don't matter. YOU can mute them. However, YOU chose instead to be toxic back and harass people.
Odreiw1 votesI didn't disagree with whether not I was toxic at all. However, it is objectively true that as far as League goes, I am not "extremely" toxic.
General Esdeath 1 votesHow extreme doesn't really matter (unless you use hate speech which skips chat bans). Each punishment moves you up one tier on the ladder.
Odreiw1 votesSo I've learned from this. Thanks.
coeurloyal1 votesI know you're going to disagree with me on this, but you flame 3/4 teammates in those chatlogs and then blame them your jungler for losing your lane. You also use your winrate to justify blaming the rest of your team. You may see that as true, and it may actually be true--but you still straight up flamed and blamed your whole team. If I were a mod, I would hit you with punishment for that.
Odreiw2 votesWhether or not you are correct depends on how you mean that (actually, I never blamed the jg for losing my lane, I said he made poor choices by not ganking. Not at all the same, so that part's incorrect regardless). 3/4 of my teammates spent 10 of the first 15 minutes flaming me and I responded to that. If you mean it as, "I was toxic in literally any way," then yes. If you mean it as, "I was the one starting the toxicity," just no. I also did not blame my whole team at any point during the game. You have rather poor reading comprehension and are just seeing what you want to see.
coeurloyal2 votesI would argue that you are also only seeing what you want to see.
From an outside perspective, you need to understand that A) We can only see your portion of the chatlogs, and B) the level of toxicity coming from the other members of your team is irrelevant. It doesn't matter who started it or whether they were worse--The fact of the matter is that at one point or another in the game you took part in that toxic behavior, and with an included history of punishment puts you on the block for further punishment. Nobody forced you to engage--that blame rests squarely on your shoulders.
My reading comprehension is fine. My interpretation of the situation isn't perfect because I don't have complete information, but you did in fact blame your jungler for losing your lane when you said this:
Odreiw: because your jg has helped you Odreiw: and mine hasn't
From the outside looking in, that you reject any criticism (as valid/invalid or toxic as it may be) of your gameplay in this chat log implies that you are blaming your team for the loss when you call most of them toxic and call for reports (which in and of itself is considered a punishable offense, btw). If it had been one or the other, that impression may not have been present. Doing both makes it sound like you are in fact blaming your team for the negativity (and therefore the loss, because the two are closely related). That impression isn't helped when you throw your winrate in your team's face--it makes you look arrogant. Whether or not it's true that they instigated or deserve most of the blame isn't something that we in this thread can determine; we can only give you feedback on your actions alone. For all we know those three players also received punishment and probably deserved it.
If I'm honest, I see the fact that you aren't able/willing to defend your standpoint in this conversation without taking a jab at my reading comprehension is telling of your in-game behavior. I think if you start asking yourself (or others in the proper context) why people think/see what they do rather than just attacking the point, it would go a long way toward clearing up your toxicity problems. I get that it can be difficult to ignore it when stupid people say stupid things, but it's best just to automatically hit the mute button the moment somebody starts. The game is a whole lot more enjoyable to me that way.
Odreiw1 votesYou are literally making things up to try to make yourself look better. Have fun in life.
coeurloyal1 votesYeah, ok. Stay salty.