Friend got permabanned for calling trolls "toxic"

xAutobot·Jan 8, 2020·3 votes·2,480 views

My friend got permabanned for this chat log because we had trolls in our game...they were feeding(like purposely letting the enemy kill them under their tower all game and ffing every chance they could and even going afk in scenarios) despite that we were actually winning the game until they started their antics Game 1 In-Game : howe : what : why are you guys ffing : man : takes 3 of you lmfaooooo : zed : youre legit feeding them : this is ridiculous : 4 of them : 4 : 4 lmaooooooooooooo : cya : man : what are you guys doing : youre toxic for ffing : its far from over stop being salty : report me for what? wanting to play? : you guys are so insanely bad : most toxic team ive ever played with : seriously you guys have been whining all game : so toxic : why do you guys do this? : like honestly : how am i responsible for the fact that you dont want to play : because youre playing like trash : so toxic : reported

Just asking because I've seen far worse said by people I've played with, with 0 repercussions. Yet thats bannable?

21 Comments

TrikzterzArmaJan 8, 20203 votes

After a 14 days ban, this behavior isn't acceptable

xAutobotJan 8, 20202 votes

but really what did HE do wrong? he said nothing wrong, and our team asked the other team to report us, but as you can see theres NOTHING wrong with the chat log... Edit: they were swearing at us yet hes the one that gets banned

TrikzterzArmaJan 8, 20203 votes

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but really what did HE do wrong? he said nothing wrong, and our team asked the other team to report us, but as you can see theres NOTHING wrong with the chat log...

Yes there is. He was toxic

xAutobotJan 8, 20201 votes

but when he calls out a troll hes toxic? he never speaks in chat, he only spoke in chat because the trolls were FFing a game that we were winning. i even reported the trolls for what they said, but yet hes the one thats punished for it INSTANTLY

Tele IIJan 9, 20201 votes

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but really what did HE do wrong? he said nothing wrong, and our team asked the other team to report us, but as you can see theres NOTHING wrong with the chat log... Edit: they were swearing at us yet hes the one that gets banned

Calling people insanely bad, IS indeed against the rules. I thought that was obvious. In fact, most of the last half of his log is rule breaking. Calling them toxic, they play like trash, toxic again, reported, toxic again... jesus your friend needs to take "toxic" out of his vocabulary. Its ridiculous. Its like he just learned that word so now he goes around using it way too damn much.

You two should really consider looking up the rules and getting to know them. Ignorance often results in banned accounts. Knowledge is power, protect your shit. This is such a dumb way to hurt yourself. Look up the rules and maybe even go around the boards learning what is and isnt punishable. It could save his next account, and yours, since you seem to think this was all within the standards of Riots rules. Thats pretty bad you cant even recognize that calling someone trash and so bad is against the rules. But youre just being biased cuz its your friend im sure.

AeroWaffleJan 8, 20203 votes

My friend

So why aren't they here? People could talk about the punishment but it seems like it would be better for people to actually talk to the person that the punishment is issued to.

Just asking because I've seen far worse said by people I've played with, with 0 repercussions. Yet thats bannable?

Each person is responsible for their own behavior. Past punishment history results in more harsh punishments as people move up the ladder.

xAutobotJan 8, 20201 votes

his last ban was overturned, he literally typed out "kys" then very quickly corrected to "krys"(thats our friends name) and he showed them that and they unbanned him, but that in my mind isnt even half as bad as the things i see said on this game

AeroWaffleJan 8, 20202 votes

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his last ban was overturned, he literally typed out "kys" then very quickly corrected to "krys"(thats our friends name) and he showed them that and they unbanned him, but that in my mind isnt even half as bad as the things i see said on this game

If they had not had a non-reversed 14-day ban prior to this punishment they need to contact support. But just because you've seen worse does not excuse another person when they're caught.

xAutobotJan 8, 20201 votes

he contacted support "solved" yet he hasnt gotten anything from them yet...but again the issue at hand is he calls out a troll and he gets punished for it

AeroWaffleJan 8, 20204 votes

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he contacted support "solved" yet he hasnt gotten anything from them yet...but again the issue at hand is he calls out a troll and he gets punished for it

The rules for civility doesn't have an asterisk follow by "...unless you think they're a troll". Riot can't just trust a player's opinion that they're insulting a troll, especially in this community filled with people who are quick to claim someone is trolling whenever a mistake is made.

Riot isn't going to wade into the quagmire that would be manually checking each and every situation to see if the person getting insulted was a troll in their opinion as well.

xAutobotJan 8, 20201 votes

See I get that but at the same time how is what he said bannable? He didn't swear, didnt really step over a line at all. He just called out people whom were being toxic and ruining his experience on the game, and mine too(tristana kept farming my jgl camps but we wont go there)

Arcade LuluJan 8, 20202 votes

How do you know that other people don't get punished tho

xAutobotJan 8, 20201 votes

ive gotten notifications about "instant feedback" when people get banned, my friends ban was instant

Arcade LuluJan 8, 20202 votes

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ive gotten notifications about "instant feedback" when people get banned, my friends ban was instant

You people seriously need to learn how the system works MOST of the time you won't receive a notification if someone gets punished from your report So you have no idea if someone got punished or nah And trust me, they did

xAutobotJan 8, 20201 votes

But my question is how is what he said deemed toxic? He literally called out the fact the guys weren't doing what they should've been doing(engaging in 1v5s, running under tower with 0 minions, and a 1/8 lux even tried to solo baron while my friend and I were in a 2v2) if I did any of that I'd expect to be called out for it. To add insult to injury we were winning until they started their antics, which came after they started the FF right on the 15 minute mark

ArammusJan 8, 20201 votes

you removed (your) name from the chatlogs but were too lazy to just pick a random name? if someone looked it up you could have said "oh it wasnt on NA"

xAutobotJan 8, 20201 votes

I removed his for his privacy i didn’t receive any sort of bans, while I did say they were bad and if they’re were just going to waste peoples time to just uninstall and save everyone the hassle

ModiJan 8, 20201 votes

People who ask "is this ban worthy" almost invariably neglect to ask the similar question "is this punishment worthy" first. Bans (in 99% of cases) are predicated not on a single incident, but a consistent history of punishable behavior.

This one incident was the straw that broke the camel's back. Your friend did not get banned for this, they got punished for this. It just so happens that the next punishment in their punishment level is a permaban. Your friend needs to learn from this incident, as clearly they did not learn from the final warning given in their 14-day suspension.

xAutobotJan 8, 20201 votes

He hasn’t played the game in almost 3 months(since his 14 day got appealed because he missed the r in our friends name and ended up typing KYS instead) and he just got back into it this week, and the first game we played last night was us and a 3 stack of people trolling/inting all game. So how he gets punished because he called them out for it is beyond me

KFCeytronJan 8, 20201 votes

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He hasn’t played the game in almost 3 months(since his 14 day got appealed because he missed the r in our friends name and ended up typing KYS instead) and he just got back into it this week, and the first game we played last night was us and a 3 stack of people trolling/inting all game. So how he gets punished because he called them out for it is beyond me

The space between games isn't counted. Someone who breaks the rules every time they play can't get away with it by only touching the account once every several months. In this game, your friend spent the entire time arguing, bickering, accusing people of feeding, telling teammates they're bad, saying that a teammate is toxic reported trash, and so on. Your friend complained about "seriously you guys have been whining all game" while doing exactly that himself.

ModiJan 8, 20202 votes

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He hasn’t played the game in almost 3 months(since his 14 day got appealed because he missed the r in our friends name and ended up typing KYS instead) and he just got back into it this week, and the first game we played last night was us and a 3 stack of people trolling/inting all game. So how he gets punished because he called them out for it is beyond me

Maybe the friends name shouldn't be so close to that, but that is beside the point. There is absolutely no need to call anyone out for their behavior in game, ever.