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The report system and toxicity of players and or player is leading a team-based game to a mute game.

S1d3WayzZz··5 votes·4,524 views

I would just like to say that league is a highly competitive team-based game that usually requires teammates being able to talk with one another so they can coordinate team fights right? Riot has done a horrible job in this field! Now a days people are getting banned and are afraid of even talking in a game it is insane!! Players now just straight up mute everyone at the start of their game, because they're afraid if they don't something might be said that is apparently "TOXIC" and they will receive punishment for it! The way riot staff have went about this is all wrong! The game is suppose to be fun and enjoyed with your friends or strangers on the same team as you where in order to win you have to work and communicate as a team to beat your opponents! Now everyone is scared to even talk in the game for the fear of being reported and immediate repercussions for their actions in game. People no longer feel safe to enjoy the game and talk to one another because of the report system, and RIot you're making it worse by show casing worlds lcs players in a tournament where communication is key to win, and you literally throw it back right at us. What are we to do as players individually? You can't communicate with your team, because you might get banned for it.

Just GG riot you've done a really great job... NOT

26 Comments

rujitra4 votes

The types of people being pushed to “mute all” and not communicate are not the type of players you want communicating anyway. The reason those players are doing that is because they refuse to behave appropriately, they are unable to take criticism or advice from others, and much of their desired chat messages they want to send are going to be toxic.

You are actually better off if players like that are not using chat, because their toxicity and inability to cooperate with others will only bring the team down.

mlm olo mlm2 votes

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The types of people being pushed to “mute all” and not communicate are not the type of players you want communicating anyway.

Generalization, opinion, and projection. God loves all children.

SHIN0BU2 votes

They’re right though, if you have no issue with what you say, then mute all never really happens. Having everyone muted usually means they have behavior issues, so yeah. Btw what they said is inference not generalization.

mlm olo mlm3 votes

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They’re right though, if you have no issue with what you say, then mute all never really happens. Having everyone muted usually means they have behavior issues, so yeah. Btw what they said is inference not generalization.

"The types of people" = generalization

"Mute all" is a feature anyone is allowed to use. Stop stereotyping.

SHIN0BU2 votes

Think about it for a moment, if you had zero issues with behavior, why mute others? If someone has to mute others without them saying anything yet that means that the person premuted them, and only people with chat problems deal with this issue of shutting off chat.

mlm olo mlm2 votes

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Think about it for a moment, if you had zero issues with behavior, why mute others?

Prevention of unwanted chat. Hyper-focus on personal game play. Simply because they want to or enjoy the games more.

If someone has to mute others without them saying anything yet that means that the person premuted them, and only people with chat problems deal with this issue of shutting off chat.

They don't HAVE to mute others. They CHOOSE to mute others. Mute is an OPTION given to everyone.

Besides, "behavior problems" is subjective and vague.

S1d3WayzZz2 votes

I agree with mlm, people mute everyone in a game because of their past experiences and past games. People normally don't just mute others for no reason that means those that do mute others obviously had a bad experience in games with others that caused them to just mute people for both their good and others! This by no way means that these are the type of people you should avoid like the specialist said earlier in my post which i find is just ridiculous and totally biased!

Saezio4 votes

Tons of challenger Koreans used to do it even before the toxicity-phobia begun just to focus on their game more. Also people do it so they won't have to see whatever 9 random idiots might have to say, not because they are afraid of responding.

S1d3WayzZz1 votes

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The types of people being pushed to “mute all” and not communicate are not the type of players you want communicating anyway. The reason those players are doing that is because they refuse to behave appropriately, they are unable to take criticism or advice from others, and much of their desired chat messages they want to send are going to be toxic.

You are actually better off if players like that are not using chat, because their toxicity and inability to cooperate with others will only bring the team down.

It's funny rjitra that you replied to my post, which is funny because shortly after you did reply you banned me from forums for 24 hours. Now i think that is very funny because I'm sure the forums are where players seek help and voice their opinions! Now just because I brought up riot in a post or a comment you ban me from forums? really dude? Just goes to prove my point even more about riot thanks!

How do you know the people are muting everyone from start a game refuse to behave appropriately? You came at this all wrong you voiced your own belief when you posted that, Which i thought you were just suppose to follow what ever riot tells you so i appreciate that you did. But you did not justify anything, the only thing you did was add salt to a wound.

rujitra2 votes

I'm not a moderator. I literally can't ban you. Your punishment message will have been signed by whatever moderator issued it. If you can't find that information in it, feel free to post a screenshot of your suspension message.

And how do I know? Because the people who mute all are muting all because they're "triggered" by any minor thing anyone says and are trying to protect their account from punishment since they can't control themselves.

S1d3WayzZz2 votes

than why the hell asoon as you commented it was i instantly banned from forums? literally right after one another?

rujitra2 votes

I don't know! Again - I'm not a moderator. I have no control over punishments, and in fact I cannot see your punishment history nor the reasoning.

If you click your notifications you can see the moderation message including who issued it and why. Maybe you should try that?

S1d3WayzZz2 votes

Okay difference between how you know and how i know is our experience in the game which is based on our opinions, and you voiced yours and i voiced mine. For you to make allegations and accusations such as you did is ludicrous. You can't know what is going on when players mute everyone in game before-hand and automatically say they're doing that because of so and so, you're just being basing what you know from your own opinion man come on

ØrnnToGetTrolleÐ3 votes

League is not competitive. It's ruled by trolls.

S1d3WayzZz2 votes

agreed people no longer help each other they just salt each other. All because the way riot handles the report/reward system, you literally cannot say anything remotely bad in a league game!! WE ARE made to act nice or get banned if we act competitive and talk a little smack. Making people something they're not is never going to work.

Kei1432 votes

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Now everyone is scared to even talk in the game for the fear of being reported and immediate repercussions for their actions in game.

Eh.. the people that are afraid of the system are those that don't understand how the system works.

Granted, Riot does a poor job in educating people how the system works, but if people can understand what is harassment and insults, then they wouldn't need to be afraid of the system regardless of how poor of a job Riot does to educate players.

World peace plz1 votes

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Granted, Riot does a poor job in educating people how the system works, but if people can understand what is harassment and insults, then they wouldn't need to be afraid of the system regardless of how poor of a job Riot does to educate players.

Agreed on that. Things like if they would know that 1 report is enough and that there is no need to ask for reports.

Apriccot2 votes

Yep. It's hilarious at this point. Riots discipline system is intended to make it so people only say nice things in an intense, competitive game where your goal is to kill everyone. Makes sense

S1d3WayzZz1 votes

Exactly!! well said my dude! now people are against each other especially in this community! League of Legends is the only game where if someone seeks help on forums for maybe a punishment they receive they only get backlash from the community! Players are pitted against one another because they're scared of the repercussion they might get from riot staff themselves it's just insane.

Captn Chinstrap2 votes

Rujitra obviously is not a ranked player and has no idea what he is talking about. The problem is that Riot catered to these liberal kids who believe it's okay to go 0-10, and that they have a right to act offended if someone asks them to "stop feeding." So now every single time someone loses a game, they look to blame someone on their team who offended them and report them instead of reflecting on themselves in what they did wrong. Riot made these kids never take responsibility for anything and the encouragement from these board mods/specialists etc. just shows how garbage this system is.

The entire report system should be removed/revamped to only deal with trolls/extreme homophobia & racism/intentionally feeding. People should be grown enough to use the mute button if someone on the interwebs hurts their e-feelings. Kids these days are complete fucking pansies because Obama and Riot taught them to 1.) Beg for handouts, 2.) Use the race card, or 3.) act offended by everything and you will get stuff for free. Joke community, joke company, and joke report system confirmed.

S1d3WayzZz1 votes

you're absolutely right!! All riot did with the report system and how everything rude or slightly above rated PG is a bannable offense!! HELL YOU CAN GET PUNISHMENT FOR SAYING GOOD GAME EASY! WHAT THE HELL EVERYONE COMPETITIVE SPORT OR GAME THERE IS ALWAYS SHIT TALKING IT IS PART OF THE NATURE OF BEING COMPETITIVE ANYONE WILL TELL YOU THIS RIGHT! sorry for the caps i'm getting angry at how stupid this game's punishment system is.

The only thing this system rewards is trolls! People who play bad or feed now you don't even know if they're trolling or not because you can't do nothing or say anything about it anymore. Now if they feed go 0-10 like you said it's because they're just not good at that game even though you could be playing at high lvl accounts like 130+ which by than I believe you should have enough experience to not feed or int.

You can get banned from 1 game that you got reported in. To earn honor and unlock check points not levels just check points you have to play hundreds of games and hours that all can be ruined by 1 game you said something rude which is bullshit

R107 Games1 votes

Indeed.

Players who are naturally rude might have a hard time using chat. If they don't know how the IFS system works, then they are forced to mute all to avoid getting punished.

This is partially riot's fault for making the chat moderation system strict, and being vague on what is punishable.

Though I think communication without voice chat is usless as pings are more effective and sufficient, and typing takes up time. Players shouldn't be scared to type in a multiplayer game.

hrooza dota 1 votes

ppl are not scared to talk because riot did a bad job about it

if anyone is scared of that then that person chat is full of toxicity anyway and is completely pointless/useless for him to talk

toxicity dont bring enjoyment/fun toxicity is not strategic because all it do is tilt another player or make ppl lose focus so punishing it is fair enough work from riot

Kattzy1 votes

I thought this post was going to say, "This is a team game that should have great communication so it's a shame that the community is so toxic that reasonable players have to frequently /mute all." Imagine my surprise that you think the problem is with the report system allegedly scaring toxic players into not speaking. Um, good? The only people who should be afraid of the report system are people who say things that are report-worthy. I wish all the flamers in my games would just never speak and /mute all so they can focus on the game instead of tilting their own teammates. Instead, I end up having to mute and report them, knowing that the rest of the team probably won't mute and will be distracted and tilted.

I wish all toxic players would agree with you that "communication is the key to winning" so they will stop flaming and just focus on being constructive, but in the meantime, it's fine by me if they are too scared of being punished to type in chat at all.

Tele II1 votes

I disagree. Not my experience at all. If there are full muters, I wouldnt notice them anyways since they dont talk and theres plenty of other people using chat, so i just never notice them. If so many people were afraid to use chat, I think games would be a lot quieter than I experience. I think youre taking exaggerated memes like "better not say anything or youll get banned" and treating them like reality. Those are just bad jokes made to mock the system. Theyre made by the same people who say trendy meme kid shit all the time, like all yasuo players are toxic and oh if theyre toxic theyll fit in well here. Its just jokes. Most people use chat. Use your game experience, not forum people. This is such a small slice of the players it doesnt really represent anything.

Hell, if anything, people have been advised to full mute in order to climb because the chat is usually a distraction, and can often tilt you because people DO use chat and DO insult eachother very often. So they say its best to just mute so you dont find yourself suddenly arguing with another player. Im speaking of guides to climbing ranked, not guides to avoid bans. The fear of ban has nothing to do with it. Its a fear of distraction and losing due to it, in my opinion. I know its just an opinion and not fact, but thats what your post is as well.

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