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While i was reading this the similarities were something between "funny" and "creepy". Still stunning similarities in my opinion.
AzureDragoon7 votesSo... what's your argument here?
Zelorxon2 votesFlaming and banter are an essential component for an online/videogame community, it passively helps to shape what's requested by the community and ensures in a passive yet effective way that these values are enforced. It also helps to skim away undesired/undeserving members from the community. Riot doesn't want to empower the players, they want to empower their pockets at the expense of the game's quality, so they pamper the audience with the most money availability in oder to ensure their favor.
Do you remember that guy in Halo 3 that purposefully shot a rocket in the middle of his team just to irritate them and was insulted on mic for 20 minutes straight? That ensured that it wouldn't happen again, also we had a sense of comradery and even if we called among us the worst shit (i can't post it here lolz) we actually liked and respected eachother, right now the average player of league of legends and even most high-end players are worth less than toilet paper to me, and this is sad, since i know people can be much, much better. Just a simplistic example from what it used to be in the past.
ModPrandine5 votesFlaming and banter are an essential component for an online/videogame community, it passively helps to shape what's requested by the community and ensures in a passive yet effective way that these values are enforced.
Friendly banter is fine, outright flaming is not. It's a well known fact that people tend to perform worse when harassed after a mistake.
It also helps to skim away undesired/undeserving members from the community. Riot doesn't want to empower the players, they want to empower their pockets at the expense of the game's quality, so they pamper the audience with the most money availability in oder to ensure their favor.
To quote Kei143:
When Riot permabans someone, their philosophy is "the chances of this guy reforming isn't a whole lot, we'd rather not have him in the game". Thus in their eyes, they have already written off the toxic player as a paying client.
From a business standpoint, do they want to remove the toxic guy who has spent $500 but is causing a negative environment for 4-9 other players in every game? Those non-toxics are also spending $500 and probably will spend more, promote the game more when they are enjoying the game AND they won't cause a negative environment.
I personally think it is a fine argument to protect the ones that are paying money and aren't toxic rather than protecting the ones that may pay the same amount but are toxic.
Do you remember that guy in Halo 3 that purposefully shot a rocket in the middle of his team just to irritate them and was insulted on mic for 20 minutes straight? That ensured that it wouldn't happen again, also we had a sense of comradery and even if we called among us the worst shit (i can't post it here lolz) we actually liked and respected eachother, right now the average player of league of legends and even most high-end players are worth less than toilet paper to me, and this is sad, since i know people can be much, much better. Just a simplistic example from what it used to be in the past.
Yeah well times change. In the past it may have been considered okay to flame others, but these days it's not. If people can't handle being held accountable for their poor behavior online then perhaps online games just aren't for them.
Zelorxon1 votesFriendly banter is fine
I have yet to see someone that even understood what the hell i was saying, according to a vast majority of the playerbase my post is flaming, telling somebody to build a sightstone is flaming, telling someone to right click a turret is flaming, telling someone to stop trying to 1v1 a certain guy since it's the 5th time they try and fail is flaming. Everything that goes beyond your understanding is toxic and must be removed. Today's population has their brains so underdeveloped that anything that requires even the lightest of thinking causes them pain the same way as if a guy that never did exercise for his whole life started running all of a sudden.
Also if riot was coherent with their bans they would ban the meanie guy as well as the guy that runs it down mid but he's allowed to because "he's just having a bad game™", also the bans are actually strategically placed because riot is behind the market of account selling/boosting.
Yeah well times change. In the past it may have been considered okay to flame others, but these days it's not. If people can't handle being held accountable for their poor behavior online then perhaps online games just aren't for them.
No, i was here long before you all came, you move. You're being used as puppets for their purposes, i just hope it's worth it.
This Is Your Dad6 votesYou're using selective reasoning. "Build a sightstone." "KYS NOOB TRASH." You could say those two statements in the same game and when you were punished you'd claim you just told them to build a sightstone. It happens a lot. People say they never were negative in chat and when asked for chat logs all I see are racial slurs, homophobic remarks, and some odd fascination with performing lewd acts with a goat.
KORGtuners1 votesYour lewd is my hawt.
Neither and both of us are right.
Zelorxon1 votesOh i just noticed it now, i wasn't banned, i was just making a point. And i had several people calling me "toxic piece of shit" because i dared to tell them "<champ> where is your sightstone?"
This Is Your Dad2 votesAre you absolutely sure there were no goats involved? Asking for a friend.
ModUlanopo9 votesFlaming and banter are an essential component for an online/videogame community
This is an opinion and it is one that the majority of the League community does not share.
Zelorxon1 votesI know, this is why we have diamonds that go rabadon on mid laners first, that think that xin zhao is anywhere near playable, that inted with video proof yet they're diamond right now (the dunkey malphite guy) and they keep inting as i'm posting this.
And this is also the reason why koreans stomp us in less than 20 minutes at every international event and a team composed by uncoordinated korean diamonds could easily take over most LCS teams, since in korea nobody minds if someone writes a paragraph in game about what they don't like about the current game even if riot keeps telling us that "ur mom" jokes are punished with a one way only trip to north korea there.
AeroWaffle2 votesThat argument has nothing to do with the story that you posted.
Jo0o4 votesThat's not how arguments work.
ModPeriscope2 votesYou're either a sheep or a shark, and this is a sheep post. You're posting on Riot's forums, the shepherd of these sharks.
Zelorxon1 votesIm confused wether to put the shark on the land and the sheep in the sea or do the opposite. You know what? Let's put the shark on the sheep and the land in the sea.
KORGtuners1 votesToday I learnt domesticated sheep do not shed. Damn you humans and your meddling.
SEKAI1 votesToday I learnt domesticated sheep do not shed. Damn you humans and your meddling.
No, the domesticated sheep (merino sheep specifically) don't shed their wool, you're right (wild ones do). Their wool will grow indefinitely until someone comes along and shed it for them, and if it's not shed, well imagine the inconvenience, dirtiness and the heat with all those wool, the sheep would likely die prematurely even by jungle standards as a result of it. We specifically bred the sheep to be like that, so that the wool is always there and "fresh", which is a bit cruel if you think about it, forcing animals to be dependent on humans and the fact considering the sheep will face a mass extinction if humans were to go off/die off someday.
A common argument for how the sheep industry is okay is usually something along the lines of "but sheep would die if humans don't keep them and shear them periodically!" as shown via the OP's provided examples, it's actually the general opinion shared by many people. Yeah, cool, except this is a self-inflicted problem that isn't supposed to be there in the first place, and it's only there because humans want to shear the sheep and not the other way around (I mean, it's like if you set a house on fire and then go to fight the fire while saying "if I don't fight the fire the house will be burned down, I have to!"..... wtf?).
But then again, wool is just 1 of the many biological disasters we've created over the years.
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Oh and, sheep do still die from wool demands despite often being cited to be harmless to the sheep. Sheepskin is also a product that is often used, it means the sheep is "sheared" on the skin; well I kid, it just means they kill the sheep and skin it, or skin it alive and then kill it for that freshness because they sometimes claim that when an animal is dead the skin quality degrades or something.
Even shearing can kill sheep, though indirectly. Many sheep are sheared when the weather is cold for some reason and sheep die as a result of it. And the shearers are many times the problem as well, as firstly they are usually paid by volume and not by hour which means they are less likely to care about how the sheep feel but how much they could shear in the shortest amount of time, and secondly they could treat sheep badly and beat them because they're sick fucks or something (animal cruelty by farm workers is a well documented issue, and has not be solved despite the tremendous effort), and some sheep die as a result of this.
Just something to think about.
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EDIT: Though I must say, OP is terrible in arguments and debates. Like, not only is the example terrible to use in the context of this game since apples and oranges, it's also counter-intuitive to OP's own cause because wooling/shearing is NOT a natural part of sheep's life as it's entirely a man-made circumstance/condition just like player toxicity (as OP tried to use it to claim that toxicity is and should be a natural part of League). This thread has failed spectacularly on all fronts.
