Terrible match making creates toxic environment

verysalt·Jul 24, 2017·1 votes·377 views

2 games in a row i got 4 players of lvl 0 masteries.

Since a week ago i began checking when i lose my games. Most of my games were lost with team mates made of lvl 0s, where most of my wins comes from teams made up of lvl5s and above.

IT'S REALLY HARD TO KEEP COOL WHEN YOU SEE LVL 0s in your team and you know from the beginning that you are doomed to lose.

Can RIOT stop letting lvl 0s in ranked ? Dudes who come to playa ranked without any practice are cancer and creating toxic atmosphere.

15 Comments

TheRealSunikiJul 24, 20171 votes

You are the reason I feel like.. I almost wana quit the game dude. I know multiple people who quit because the game is this super tri-hard atmosphere. It's normal games. I can't even enter a ranked without being flamed by a bunch of apparent "Pros" It's like this game has lost all sense of fun. It's just a game!. why the hell are people so negative and hateful. Yes we're losing so everyone needs to report the noobiest player on the team lol.

verysaltJul 24, 20171 votes

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You are the reason I feel like.. I almost wana quit the game dude. I know multiple people who quit because the game is this super tri-hard atmosphere. It's normal games. I can't even enter a ranked without being flamed by a bunch of apparent "Pros" It's like this game has lost all sense of fun. It's just a game!. why the hell are people so negative and hateful. Yes we're losing so everyone needs to report the noobiest player on the team lol.

It's not fun at all when you see bunch of inexperienced players and you almost certain the game will be lost regardless of your efforts after wasting 20-30 minutes of your life. THE FUN is when you have equally balanced teams.

Not sure how much fun would be for any LCS team's fans to watch their team full of inexperienced rookies competing. Same here, i want to have a good game regardless i win or lose.

TheRealSunikiJul 24, 20171 votes

This argument goes both ways. I understand your point. But hear mine, I couldn't even get into a decent unranked match without at least 2 or 3 people being SOO over experience, (clearly not new) on low level accounts just burying me an entire game. Now I can't practice a role because a dozen people spam the role they want over and over when I get into that game. So I never get more than 1 or 2 games in on a specific role every day. I try ranked and get trash talked the entire time. It's a very bad game for newer players that have not played or 4+ years. I love the game, most fun i've had in forever and really regret not getting into it earlier. But the toxic community is hard to deal with. Also playing so many roles I've got to switch from champion to champion to figure out what I enjoy. It sucks.. maybe i'll get better over time but for now I'm playing against a community where 75% of people have played more than me. My homies even all quit because it's just too difficult to stand being either burried every game or talked to like your garbage by a 12 year old. Riot needs to balance the queue system out better, I agree.

ChermorgJul 24, 20171 votes

There is absolutely no prohibition against playing champions "the first time" in ranked. Many people have more than one account, or PBE access, and aren't actually as new to the champ as you think they are. Further, there's always custom games.

"It's really hard to keep cool when..." That's not Riot's problem, or your team's problem. That's your problem.

verysaltJul 24, 20171 votes

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There is absolutely no prohibition against playing champions "the first time" in ranked. Many people have more than one account, or PBE access, and aren't actually as new to the champ as you think they are. Further, there's always custom games.

"It's really hard to keep cool when..." That's not Riot's problem, or your team's problem. That's your problem.

Imbalanced game IS Riots problem. There is a reason why RIOT asks in survey our opinion regarding the balance of match making.

ChermorgJul 24, 20171 votes

The skill level of a person has nothing to do with their skill on a particular champion. Matchmaking is based on overall skill of a person, since the game cannot predict what champion they will choose to play in the game.

verysaltJul 24, 20171 votes

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The skill level of a person has nothing to do with their skill on a particular champion. Matchmaking is based on overall skill of a person, since the game cannot predict what champion they will choose to play in the game.

Of course it does. EXPERIENCE is paramount in being better at anything you do, including playing your champion. If you say that 1st time champion equally skilled to someone who spends 100s of games on the same champion then you are out of touch. You ever heard "PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT" ? That's universal true.

I am talking about not letting in ranked for champs without experience to lvl 1 at least.

ChermorgJul 24, 20171 votes

Nope. You can have diamond players who absolutely suck at a specific champion.

Further, you can't know that someone with level 0 has no experience or practice.

Smurf account. Second account. PBE account. All ways to get experience without showing it in your main account's mastery rating.

verysaltJul 24, 20171 votes

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Nope. You can have diamond players who absolutely suck at a specific champion.

Further, you can't know that someone with level 0 has no experience or practice.

Smurf account. Second account. PBE account. All ways to get experience without showing it in your main account's mastery rating.

There is nothing else to say if you think experience is equal to novice. You just simply a kid without a knowledge of how things works in the world.

ChermorgJul 24, 20171 votes

Level 0 mastery does not mean they have no experience.

verysaltJul 24, 20171 votes

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Level 0 mastery does not mean they have no experience.

You talking about exceptions, I am talking in general.

ChermorgJul 24, 20171 votes

In general, there's no way for you to tell how prevalent smurfing is or PBE accounts are. Thus, you are in no place to say whether it's truly the exception, or whether someone who has never played a champ before is playing it for the first time truly is the exception

420 gramsJul 24, 20171 votes

Trying to figure out how you got in game with level 0s when the game starts you at level one🤔

verysaltJul 24, 20171 votes

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Trying to figure out how you got in game with level 0s when the game starts you at level one🤔

Talking about champions levels, not players.