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Oh Boy.

I am Spongeboob··1 votes·377 views

I made a previous post "A Quicker Way to the Tribunal" about a week ago. Nothing really came out of it but this time I'm just going on a full on rant.

So there I was, Kayle Top against an Ekko. He hurts a bit but I can duel him easily after he blows his abilities. Eventually, I get him low enough but Evelyn comes out of nowhere. I say yolo and get a kill from the 1 v 2 while going down. That's my lane.

Bot and Mid on the other hand. "First Blood." Okay that's not bad, we can still win. "Double Kill." Huh. Eh, they just need to play safer and we can help them out. 2 minutes later. "Double Kill." o_O Another few minutes later. "Dominating!" .......... 15:00 minutes. "Your inhibitor has been destroyed." Few minutes before. Jhin: I'm afk. Graves: Hold on we can still win! :D Illaoi: sits at fountain

Tell me. What about this is just to you? That I have to lose a ranked game when I could easily have won my lane and helped out my team had they not fed 0/8 in practically less than 10 minutes. If anyone wishes to call bullshit, I may as well upload screenshots at your request.

IDGAF what people say, there really is an ELO hell and it's where the trolls live.

15 Comments

Zaryelle1 votes

Yeah it really sucks that one player can actually ruin the game for your team. I think an easy solution would be to lower the gold reward given for killing them a lot more than it does now if they are dying very frequently- that way if someone is intentionally feeding or dying excessively it eventually won't give them any reward. It's not perfect but I think it's the only solution that would help this issue.

I am Spongeboob1 votes

Problem becomes that they start to outlevel, I think at some point their ADC and Support both outleveled ours by 3 levels.

AraMoOse1 votes

This is just as susceptible to the statistical argument as anything else. Presuming you are not a feeder, there are 4 available slots for a feeder on your team, while there are 5 on the other team. In the long run, there will more often be "feeders" on the enemy team than on yours.

I am Spongeboob1 votes

The score was 25 - 3. They had no feeders.

Firu1 votes

You're viewing one specific game. I imagine you don't ever think the other team is in Elo Hell when you're on the positive side of a 25-3 game. Your frustration at losing is the source of your worry. Not an actual Elo Hell.

dapositiveviking3 votes

fundamental attribution error

Firu3 votes

External, unstable attribution. To be more nerdy and more specific!

dapositiveviking1 votes

i was out-psycologied!

Firu2 votes

I do have a secret real life that explains my interest in the Player Behavior & Moderation board. :)

4th Chiming Lamb1 votes

Science'd the fuck outta the OP!

archerno11 votes

Have u actually consider teleporting bot and helping your teammates when they engaged in fight?

I am Spongeboob1 votes

There was no way I could TP in time to save them. Their Draven would delete our Jhin in less than 4 seconds because somehow he never learned to stay away from the damn guy after dying 3 times in a row.

Zaryelle1 votes

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There was no way I could TP in time to save them. Their Draven would delete our Jhin in less than 4 seconds because somehow he never learned to stay away from the damn guy after dying 3 times in a row.

The real problem is the matchmaking, I've seen this plenty of times. A person who is not even ranked yet gets matched against golds+, and this is always the result. The skill gap between the worst and best players out of all 10 in one game should not be this huge, but it happens all the time and ends in scores like 25-3 like you said. It doesn't even matter if the rest of the team seems 'balanced', if the two bot are new vs 2 golds then they get fed enough that it doesn't even matter.

Fovere1 votes

climbing isnt about a single game, its about averages

You just have to play enough games for the win rate to mean anything and push you up.

In DQ it'll probably take more games than any of the previous seasons, but it'll happen

Firu1 votes

Your frustration is real but Elo hell is not (at least not in the sense you're thinking of). You probably feel like you're in Elo hell because you've reached the MMR where you are winning about 50% of your games. You probably feel like you should be winning more but you aren't - and the reason you're losing is due to your teammates. It isn't. You've most likely just reached the appropriate level of skill for you where you will win half the time and lose half the time.

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