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Why i don't play support much anymore

KingMogar··14 votes·1,575 views

I used to be a support main, playing people like Leona, Shen, Tahm Kench, mostly tanks. But lately ive been trying out a few healers/squishier suports, like sona. Im not very good at them yet so ive been playing in blind/draft, yet almost every time i get a super toxic adc. I just played a game with sona, and there was a Jinx adc w/ a yasuo support on the other team, i had a caitlyn adc. We were doing pretty good, cait got 2 kills just under 5 minute mark. Then, once we we had ults, we went in again, but right as i ulted, yas threw up his windwall. So mine missed but cait still got a double kill. from then on i was... and quote "Retarded.... Must be playing with elbows, useless" etc. So, i decided to leave cait just because i wanted to help someone who actually had some respect. So i just roamed around. Cait could easily 2v1 and every time she did she would throw it in my face. I have a short video but idk how to add it onto here. Its just people like this who make playing support, miserable, and i like playing support because i like being helpful.

25 Comments

Sona Ping3 votes

I'm not trying depreciate your experience, but I do feel the need to tell you that is more of a "people" thing.

As someone who willingly queues as support, I will tell you that there is not a shortage of supports who sit in the bush far behind their lane partner, maybe pressing E, but really just making the ADC 1v2 the entire lane and instead use their keyboard and ample free time for the better purpose of looking around the map to flame everyone else on the team.

OnlyYouCanHearMe2 votes

^cough cough^janna^cough cough^ Oh sorry, must have been something in the air for a moment.

(#sonamainsunite)

Jo0o3 votes

Sona doesn't feel good these days, in my experience. I dunno. I feel like I can out-sustain AND out-damage her as Bard, with better CC and mobility. I dunno. Her poke is easier to land, of course.

OnlyYouCanHearMe4 votes

I would have to agree with you. She honestly feels awful to play. I went from a 68% win rate last season to a 48% right now, and I've played her since season 3. She's a healer who barely heals, and a poke champ with pathetic poke. It's like there's no real place for her anymore. I used to have a decent time in most matchups, but now, there isn't a single matchup that I can say definitively that I win in lane.

It honestly seems like the change to the sightstone items made things even worse for her. If she manages to get ahead in lane, then it isn't so bad, and she can start to bully a little. But if she gets even a bit zoned back, she will be so far behind it isn't even funny. And since she doesn't scale anywhere near as well as the other supports right now, that hurts her even more. Not having the early health from Sightstone seems to be a negative as well. I actually started building RoA on her after that patch, to try and give me some sort of health and AP scaling, but it still all depends on how much gold I can squeeze out of laning phase.

It's really frustrating, when she's a champion that I truly love playing, but playing her just isn't working for me right now.

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Leylania4 votes

As a fellow support main I agree with this, I sometimes feel like that the adc mains are actually the ones who have to put up more with the bad laning partners and thus get salty pretty quickly (instead of the support mains who love to play the victim card all the time). There are so many horrible support players and people who get autofilled support that I can totally understand if my adc gets angry quickly and doesn't trust me. That's why you got to show some skill to make them happy.

Kei1431 votes

As a support main in low Silver ELO, I cry a little everytime my lane partner (whether I am playing as bot lane or as support) is a passive farmer and they don't see the opportunity for a favourable trade or kill the enemy, leaving me essentially 2v1 and getting into bad trades.

But on the flip side, it feels so good when we do trade well and can carry just from laning phase.

Anastaecia2 votes

just mute them...i get those types of adcs maybe once a day (sometimes twice)... i just triple mute and play like normal...unless they are really bad, then i try to see who else i can help

Jo0o2 votes

I had an ADC soft-int yesterday because "Bard is a trash support, we lost this match in champ select". Bard has a 51% win rate, and I'm a Bard main. Weird.

ShaolinToilet1 votes

This is pushing the narrative that adcs are more toxic than supports but you main support so obviously you won't see any toxic supports.

saltran1 votes

As a ADC main I only have to say amen to this.

It's like if I thought that there are no toxic adcs because when I'm the adc I never flame.

PichuKanna1 votes

but just as a comment, I play all 4 roles (i say 4 cuz thats 4 i dont autofeed in)... probably in order frequency of Supp>JG,ADC,Top and... i find mid to be least toxic in most games. And unfortuantely my experience says ADC's are either most positive of most negative.

Jo0o1 votes

I have no interest in pushing a narrative. I'm just sharing a weird story.

OnlyYouCanHearMe2 votes

There will always be those toxic, irritating adcs that think the support is basically a walking potion that shits out wards every few seconds. Try to not let them get you down. Like the others have said, mute them. There's absolutely nothing wrong with muting your adc and staying in lane with them, or, if they are able to stay by themselves, roaming. Just do what you have to do to give yourself the best chance of winning the match.

And don't feel bad about getting windwalled. It happens to everyone sometimes. As a support, we don't get the same amount of practice that mid/top laners have in baiting out his windwall during laning phase, and it can take us a bit to get used to that. Just for me personally, the particles on Blood Moon Yasuo's windwall are actually extremely hard to see when he's casting it, and I have thrown more things into it simply because I couldn't see the damn thing! Nami ults, Sona ults, you name it, I've thrown it into that wall. I usually just make a comment to my team before they get a chance to say anything. Like "Nobody saw that ult, it never happened. <.<" Usually they just laugh at me a bit and move on. I've yet to have someone flame at me or get pissy after I've made my "I derped" proclamation.

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Butt Ρlug2 votes

Yeah just don't pay attention to what they say, i play support quite often and when my adc do stupid things and die a lot while blaming me for it, i usually wait till the laning phase is over and go support the most fed/better player on my team. But i'd still stay near my adc or roam a bit but come back until the laning phase is over, mainly to not suck up minion xp from other players.

SOOM1 votes

Lol same

heroikc1 votes

Yeah, that's why I stopped playing ADC, myself and moved to top and jungle; super ham/toxic supports. In all, I relate to that issue.

NekoniClaws1 votes

Hit mute. And stop playing soloQ as much as you can. Botlane is the party lane anyway <3

Elo's a thing too. Low bronze = toxic af. After that elo they learn to shut up and try to carry if their support is 'bad'.

Also I'm not going to question your Sona play. You've transitioned from Leona to Sona, as I did. You're probably playing her hyper-aggressively in laning phase.

You can quit support if you like, but if you want to play it, you can learn to handle the toxicity once you're more confident with your play.

Cavesloth1 votes

I've noticed a rise in toxicity myself. Best to mute them and do your best, report them after.

Bruh im ok1 votes

share on youtube and link it, or make a clip and make it into gif on giphy site, link the giphy copy paste link, then psot it here

Sugarlicious1 votes

Man, I just played Sona myself and first my adc was afk for first 5 min, then he showed up and of course got one shotted by Zoe, then he decided to roam a bit, idk why, so since I had nobody to support, I built AP Sona. By then everybody else somehow started dying so I left bot because well, I had nobody to support, and just went on to kill people while half of my team started crying about ks. Like seriously, if Sona is stealing your kills, you're doing something wrong... So, I totally get you, playing support can be extremely unrewarding and Sona is unbelievably squishy, but still quite viable if you keep your distance. Try playing Nami, she has better heals and she can be fun,especially vs Jhin ;)

fatherdarius1 votes

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Man, I just played Sona myself and first my adc was afk for first 5 min, then he showed up and of course got one shotted by Zoe, then he decided to roam a bit, idk why, so since I had nobody to support, I built AP Sona. By then everybody else somehow started dying so I left bot because well, I had nobody to support, and just went on to kill people while half of my team started crying about ks. Like seriously, if Sona is stealing your kills, you're doing something wrong... So, I totally get you, playing support can be extremely unrewarding and Sona is unbelievably squishy, but still quite viable if you keep your distance. Try playing Nami, she has better heals and she can be fun,especially vs Jhin ;)

HydroJhin?

Asudurga1 votes

I love playing tank supports myself, and I can see what you mean. Sometimes ADCs have little to no appreciation for what we do for them. A friend of mine who mains Tahm Kench she usually takes him top because she's really fuckin good with him. But when it comes to playing support, the ADC always runs AWAY from her W to save them and they end up dying, and who gets the blame? Why her of course for not wasting flash to save someone's bitch ass.

A Cynical Asian1 votes

Sona's have their place in ranked still. Could be a lower ranked type of experience, but I just got completely outlaned by a Cait and a Sona as Trist since both had such heavy harass. I'd say she has her uses as a hard counter, since Trist has bad poke imo.

But anyway, on a related topic, do people not have enough brain cells to realize hard countering is a thing and sucks to play against? I hold my tongue the entire game even though jungle and top lane make bad misplays, and then they take a dump on me. Not fun.

3Trees1 votes

Sorry you had a bad experience. If you enjoy supporting, pls don't let this one guy change your play.

I mean it's like if you're a jungler and get flamed by one laner in a game, would you stop jungling b/c of it?

saltran1 votes

I'm sry for the bad time you had to suffer. That's one of the Botlane issues, you depend in other random player that can be nice or toxic as hell.

And it goes both directions, as an ADC main I never find flamers adcs because I'm the adc (and I don't flame) but I find toxic supps sometimes.

There are more toxic adcs than toxic supps?

I dont really know, but I enjoy the game more playing duo with my friend rather than with some random.

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