@The_Curator Explanation pls?

ShinkoMinori··1 votes·508 views

Hey ShinkoMinori,

We here at Riot do not condone the use of racial, homophobic, or sexist slurs. You have been given a warning. Please be mindful in the future to those around you.

Here is a link to your post below:

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Also someone said "<removed>" and it was allowed

Since when is "Gay" a "racial, homophobic, or sexist slur" anyways?

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ModMod Curator3 votes

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Hey ShinkoMinori,

We here at Riot do not condone the use of racial, homophobic, or sexist slurs. You have been given a warning. Please be mindful in the future to those around you.

Here is a link to your post below:

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Also someone said &quot;This post is gay&quot; and it was allowed

Since when is "Gay" a "racial, homophobic, or sexist slur" anyways?

First, please don't repost removed content. We removed it for a reason. Reposting it opens you up to having another action taken against your account. Moderators have full access to your removal history so we don't need you repeating it here to know what was removed or why.

Second, as Kei143 stated above, context is everything in this case. You're using a word in a negative, homophobic way. Normally that type of removal is a direct 7 day suspension. Instead you were given a warning because we recognize that this wasn't an egregious use.

That being said, it was still the correct action in regards to your post and the context.

ShinkoMinori1 votes

How do you know I said it in a negative way?... First of all:

gay ɡā/ adjective adjective: gay; comparative adjective: gayer; superlative adjective: gayest 1. (of a person, especially a man) homosexual. "that friend of yours, is he gay?" synonyms: homosexual, lesbian; informalqueer "gay men and women" relating to or used by homosexuals. "feminist, black, and gay perspectives" 2. lighthearted and carefree. "Nan had a gay disposition and a very pretty face" brightly colored; showy; brilliant. "a gay profusion of purple and pink sweet peas" 3. informaloffensive foolish, stupid, or unimpressive. "making students wait for the light is kind of a gay rule" noun noun: gay; plural noun: gays 1. a homosexual, especially a man.

Second of all why remove only mine and not the other poster?

ModMod Curator4 votes

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How do you know I said it in a negative way?... First of all:

gay ɡā/ adjective adjective: gay; comparative adjective: gayer; superlative adjective: gayest 1. (of a person, especially a man) homosexual. "that friend of yours, is he gay?" synonyms: homosexual, lesbian; informalqueer "gay men and women" relating to or used by homosexuals. "feminist, black, and gay perspectives" 2. lighthearted and carefree. "Nan had a gay disposition and a very pretty face" brightly colored; showy; brilliant. "a gay profusion of purple and pink sweet peas" 3. informaloffensive foolish, stupid, or unimpressive. "making students wait for the light is kind of a gay rule" noun noun: gay; plural noun: gays 1. a homosexual, especially a man.

Second of all why remove only mine and not the other poster?

If you're referring to the person that replied/quoted you, we've removed the edit they made and if it comes back we'll remove the post. They were quoting you directly, not saying it on their own.

Your post had nothing else in it to help us determine any other potential context so it was removed under the only context we had to go with. It was literally the only thing you said and based on the OP it was the correct call.

Bottom line: It's not OK to say that on the Boards. You can argue that you're trying to say it in a different context, but if someone says that phrase, it's open to removal by Moderators until Riot tells us otherwise.

ShinkoMinori1 votes

If you have to make a judgement call since it didn't lack any context I understand. But why issuing a warning or even a ban if you can't determine my intentions of it? there is no benefit of the doubt in your moderation?

I will still follow your advice and issue a ticket regarding this issue

TrulyBland1 votes

The benefit of doubt won't really help you in this case, since it would still only leave two possibilities:

A) You were aware of how it would be interpreted and just didn't care: You're still an insensitive prick. or B) You are not aware of how a very common phrase would be interpreted: You clearly have horrible social skills and letting you continue to post is a bit like letting a blind person drive a car.

Either way you got away with a warning. Something to tell you that what you said wasn't acceptable so you know for the future.

Kei1432 votes

Gay when used alone is not a homophobic slur.

The context you used it in is commonly used as a method to insult others through homophobic slurs.

This is a similar case to "Fuck, I missed a skill shot" and "Fuck you, land a skill shot", where the first one is an expression against oneself's incompetence and the second is a direct insult to others.

ShinkoMinori1 votes

Lets assume for the sake of argument I said it as a slur.

How is that homophobic?

TrulyBland1 votes

Imagine if peopled used your name as curse/insult. Whenever something goes wrong, somebody does something stupid, somebody stubs their toe, you'd hear "That's so ShinkoMinori!".

Now tell me you wouldn't feel insulted. I wouldn't go as far as calling it straight up homophobic, but it's pretty insensitive. I get that you probably used it as a joke in that context, but then again, if you did think of it as a joke, you also know exactly what the problem is and knew that it was a risky joke.

ShinkoMinori1 votes

if its insulting someone its a different weight than if its "racist, homophobic or sexist". Its not the same telling someone "idiot" than someone "(Imagine something racist)"

then again I didn't say it as an insult I am assuming I did for the sake of the argument.

TrulyBland1 votes

I used your name as an example of being indirectly insulted by having your name being used as an insult.

What you did wasn't just insulting "someone", it was (in the same way as explained) insulting every homosexual, and that can definitely be considered homophobic.

Kei1431 votes

Hmm ..

For some people, they can call anything anti-Gay homophobic. Depends on your sensitivity.

However you like to define homophobia, what you said is not nice.

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