Flamed for doing nothing wrong. The biggest problem with this game.

Even··3 votes·3,068 views

I was playing a normal game as Twitch jungle, and every slight mistake or even sometimes doing nothing wrong my team would spam-ping me, tell me that they died because of me, and passive aggressively tell me i'm terrible (so the report bot won't get any of them punished). They did this for the entire game eventually telling me I should quit. (I finished the game with a score of 11/10). It completely ruined my mood and made me feel like shit for a while. If this was just a one time thing it'd be okay i guess, but I get players like these in every single game that I play and it can ruin the experience completely. That game I happened to be placed with four of those type of players which made the game that much worse. This games community ruins almost entirely ruins it for me, and that's why I've been playing other games like fortnite most of the time. The report bot only punishes the obviously toxic players, which you only find in 10% of matches, but never touches players that use very passive aggressive comments like "is your monitor on?" or "what are u even thinking?", so these players are allowed to roam free and find their way into almost every single one of my ranked or normal games. It sucks because I would truly enjoy playing this game, but toxic/ bad attitude players makes every game much worse, and hell if you are actually doing bad and being flamed for it (playing from behind is tilting enough).

21 Comments

Baka Red2 votes

The answer to the annoying persons is simple: Mute the annoying ones, dont'r respond, play the game as well as you still can, report in post-game lobby, forget it ever happened.

ΦmalphintoΦ1 votes

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Baka Red2 votes

Your solution will lead to you getting punished. Mine will relieve some of my stress, protect me from punishment and potentially get a troll punished. I don't know about you, but I prefer my solution.

ΦmalphintoΦ1 votes

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Your solution will lead to you getting punished. Mine will relieve some of my stress, protect me from punishment and potentially get a troll punished. I don't know about you, but I prefer my solution.

There is a difference between "friendly trash talk" and "offensive insults or harassment". for example when kata stated me twice after she got me killed, i wasn't offended that much to report her, nor did i get to play aggressive to prove that i'm a better player.

what happened is simple as, i'm not afraid to say "hey look you think you are pro? there i just got you, good luck next time", and if you saw me that time i was typical laughing and put a smile to my reply to make it not like i'm trying to be annoying "kata what are you doing :)?" after i got her.

but what did kata answer back? nothing, "just same as i did when she got me" cause its just a game, she wasn't toxic, i wasn't toxic, we both trash talked, but we wasn't offensive or harmful in any way.

but what if i have muted her when she said "?" and "Ez fizz"? personally i would say i have "judge a person" or "escaped away" from something that wasn't even toxic enough to be ignored and be treated like dirt.

but again, sorry im not that type of auto-mute people, if someone said to me "Ez game" i wouldn't take it as harassment maybe it was really easy? what makes it wrong?

There is a Proverb says: "the truth doesn't give a fuck what your opinion is". "i was noting that game was easy and he got offended". im following the truth no matter what.

i hope i didn't type all that for nothing, and actually Riot allows Some friendly trash talk.

Edit: just to clarify things here, im not fighting you nor do i disagree with you. your muting option, is your personal way to deal with these situations which is still a valued choice.

All im saying that, my choice is not wrong too. "which is teasing each others a little bit in a 'friendly' way is not a big deal" My English is not perfect, mistakes might happen.

Baka Red1 votes

I don't automute people either. I mute people who prove that they are annoying and bad for team morale. If you argue (even with softer words), you are still arguing and thus spending your time warring with words instead of actions. If you would do that in a match I am in, you get muted & reported, just like the troll you are arguing with. Maybe you won't get punished because of that, but I for sure don't wish to see team mates arguing among themselves and reducing the team's chances of winning that way.

ΦmalphintoΦ1 votes

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I don't automute people either. I mute people who prove that they are annoying and bad for team morale. If you argue (even with softer words), you are still arguing and thus spending your time warring with words instead of actions. If you would do that in a match I am in, you get muted & reported, just like the troll you are arguing with. Maybe you won't get punished because of that, but I for sure don't wish to see team mates arguing among themselves and reducing the team's chances of winning that way.

can i ask you? how many games you find a 'troll' annoying that deserves a mute?

just asking to see the picture clear, cause it doesnt seem to be understand here.

Baka Red2 votes

These days maybe about once in a day or two, max. I believe that I am somewhat protected from people needing muting since I don't listen to all-chat (I have it turned off). Also, most of the people I meet seem to be 'tryhards' who play to win - just like I am myself. Yes, I am ARAM tryhard, one of the most wicked people in existence! ;)

ΦmalphintoΦ2 votes

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These days maybe about once in a day or two, max. I believe that I am somewhat protected from people needing muting since I don't listen to all-chat (I have it turned off). Also, most of the people I meet seem to be 'tryhards' who play to win - just like I am myself. Yes, I am ARAM tryhard, one of the most wicked people in existence! ;)

its ok to try hard if you respect others that are doing just 'Fine' to me when im ahead in game and my team needs me everywhere, i must get a little bit attention when im the only one who could be very useful strong as a team in fights, these people if anyone of them told me that im bad or noob or or, the only thing i do, i go for mute them and report them for greifing, Othery way, if no one says im bad or etc, i accept if someone flamed me (without insult or telling that i play bad) if someone say i play bad i only mute and report, otherwise flaming ain't a big deal to me, (people are not effecting me by shouting out getting no reason of it) these if shouting out only i mute and no report, but if telling me im bad this is my nightmere here.

Baka Red1 votes

In that case I find it unlikely that I would end up reporting you if we met in game as teammates. I always play premade with at least one other person, so if you were there.. that would mean max of two other guys. The likelyhood of one of them making you respond would be low and me and my premades would not behave negatively, so you would have nothing (other than my lack of skills) to get annoyed at. :)

You seem to have more resilience to annoyances than me. I get annoyed rather easily, and that is why I mute pretty much instantly if someone begins to annoy me. If I am annoyed, my skills suffer and that isn't good for the team. That is why I follow the guideline I said before: Mute, don't respond, play to win, report. Anyways; Good luck out on the fields.

ΦmalphintoΦ1 votes

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In that case I find it unlikely that I would end up reporting you if we met in game as teammates. I always play premade with at least one other person, so if you were there.. that would mean max of two other guys. The likelyhood of one of them making you respond would be low and me and my premades would not behave negatively, so you would have nothing (other than my lack of skills) to get annoyed at. :)

You seem to have more resilience to annoyances than me. I get annoyed rather easily, and that is why I mute pretty much instantly if someone begins to annoy me. If I am annoyed, my skills suffer and that isn't good for the team. That is why I follow the guideline I said before: Mute, don't respond, play to win, report. Anyways; Good luck out on the fields.

no not true, i don't get annoyed if someone playing poorly or even feeding etc, there is no word in my sentences says that i get annoyed on who plays poorly, cause everyone is making mistakes sometimes, or don't see the whole picture of the game during to tons of reasons, lack of experience, not playing much recently, every patch changes some of champions, etc etc, so there is no reason for you to report me.

im the same, if someone is flaming one or two, the rest of the team will get confused / disappointed and will be playing poorly too. but still i wont report people for flaming more than being toxic, being toxic to me is complaining too much making the team confused and disappointed, asking others to report someone is playing poorly when the game is still going on and when this poorly he wanted to report is doing maybe fine, and maybe more than just fine.

i don't flame others or even to be toxic, im doing just fine as soon as you are trying to win, im also a good team-mate, i always looking to help others, being in a point that if anyone want to group i will be the closer to get, etc.

By any chance can you change your opinion on me? i don't think i deserve to be reported so far.

Baka Red1 votes

As I said before, the chances of me reporting you are pretty low, so I don't think I need to change my opinion in any way. :) And if you played properly, you would most likely get an honor or two from us, instead of a report. We don't believe in honoring each other (or do we consider our premade friends bad guys? I am never sure.) so honors go to other people. The thing is, our ARAM MMR is quite different, so it is unlikely we will meet on the battle field.

ΦmalphintoΦ1 votes

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As I said before, the chances of me reporting you are pretty low, so I don't think I need to change my opinion in any way. :) And if you played properly, you would most likely get an honor or two from us, instead of a report. We don't believe in honoring each other (or do we consider our premade friends bad guys? I am never sure.) so honors go to other people. The thing is, our ARAM MMR is quite different, so it is unlikely we will meet on the battle field.

whatever you say.

Sir Prepuzius2 votes

the sad thing is that most of them ppl reading your post will probably think you're a snowflake, for getting your mood ruined by that, when it's perfectly natural

and when in your shoes they would probably been afk instead of going throgh your game, as you did

but yeah, in those cases the only thing is to mute , report and move on

Even1 votes

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the sad thing is that most of them ppl reading your post will probably think you're a snowflake, for getting your mood ruined by that, when it's perfectly natural

and when in your shoes they would probably been afk instead of going throgh your game, as you did

but yeah, in those cases the only thing is to mute , report and move on

It sucks because they do make helpful pings, but they also spam me when i die or when they die

ΦmalphintoΦ1 votes

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It sucks because they do make helpful pings, but they also spam me when i die or when they die

if it is a team mate who is being annoying, there is nothing you can do about that, cause else then they start to be toxic towards you.

the only way to deal with a team-mate is to be careful, on what you say, cause its all responsible from you.

What you can say is things like: IDC im playing for fun <-- this is the usual word im tellin for the annoying one just to (fuck off) like you have no more reasons off to go on me.

Also not saying that im dumb player no in some cases im like forced to be playing 1v3 the whole game, defending my lane way too far, doing good too far, and my team still is trying to bring me down :3..

Kei1431 votes

did you know you can mute pings as well?

If they are going to misuse ping spams, the chances of them using pings to properly give in-game directions is pretty Low .

Kei1431 votes

passive-agressivesness does get detected by the IFS.

Rivals1 votes

Dw dude i just got banned for calling someone "junk" so those passive aggressive players are probs gonna be banned.

BEST MEAT BALLS1 votes

you should just ignore them man ... you need to know when it ignore your teammates ... specially when they are always negative on you .

and i guess if u mute them , their pings will be muted too , idk check it ... good luck :)

Summonah123691 votes

Yeah I think I've also been flamed when I'm not doing bad at all.

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