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xReadyPlayerOnex··2 votes·741 views

It's just not fun to queue into people that haven't a clue what they're doing. I understand that's "just how it is" in bronze. But it's an ELO hell. It's a prisoner island. You can deny it all you want. You can say anything but the proof is in the statistics I have. It's not acceptable that EVERY loss is because my team didn't show up and every win is because my team wrecks them because the opposite is true. I'm not moving up through the ranks based on my skill. My master level is over 300, and it's clear I'm exceedingly better than my teammates. Yet I'm stuck here. No choice in the matter.

What gives? Last time I gave out this challenge, no one could do it. So here it is again to prove I'm not crazy.

Win 4 out of 5 games with me in bronze (which would expand to essentially going to silver based purely on your merit) and I'll admit I'm wrong about this and my statistics are just outliers. Do you have what it takes to do that? I've had 10 people try and 10 people fail. If being in bronze/"elo hell" is based purely on your ability, come win any 4 out of 5 games with me and I'll admit it's my fault I'm there.

Personally, I don't think anyone can fulfill this challenge. I think the 3 people we queue with will be so bad in at least 2 of 5 games that it won't be possible for you to win regardless of your ability. And I'm not ok with a system like that and hope it changes. Because I don't want to play otherwise.

29 Comments

Gimpy893 votes

You need to stop being delusional if you want to improve and climb. On op.gg you have kda/CS of someone who belongs in a slightly LOWER division than they are. Elo hell is a lie and you can prove it doesn't exist with statistics (over a large sample of games afks and trolls will increase your win-rate as the enemy will get more assuming you aren't one). You are mentally blocking out your mistakes and bad games and blaming your teams. EVERY game people will make multiple mistakes that throw the game on both sides at low elo, however you probably only see it when your teammate throws.

Champion mastery means nothing if you don't learn from mistakes.

"I've had 10 people try and 10 people fail." pretty sure this is a lie. If it were true you would have 10 streaks of 5 games with a duo. Also a G+ smurf would be able to do this easily on the first try.

your past 20 games: 3.9 / 6.6 / 11.1 Average 2.27:1 KDA (Kill Participation 39%)

xReadyPlayerOnex1 votes

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You need to stop being delusional if you want to improve and climb. On op.gg you have kda/CS of someone who belongs in a slightly LOWER division than they are. Elo hell is a lie and you can prove it doesn't exist with statistics (over a large sample of games afks and trolls will increase your win-rate as the enemy will get more assuming you aren't one). You are mentally blocking out your mistakes and bad games and blaming your teams. EVERY game people will make multiple mistakes that throw the game on both sides at low elo, however you probably only see it when your teammate throws.

Champion mastery means nothing if you don't learn from mistakes.

"I've had 10 people try and 10 people fail." pretty sure this is a lie. If it were true you would have 10 streaks of 5 games with a duo. Also a G+ smurf would be able to do this easily on the first try.

your past 20 games: 3.9 / 6.6 / 11.1 Average 2.27:1 KDA (Kill Participation 39%)

I'm responding to this one because it's the stupidest post. ELEVEN assists per game which you discount. Was I playing support? Probably more than half those games. Did my team add 2-3 deaths per game because they fed? yes. Did I not focus on KD (because you don't include assists) because it would be better to give kills to my team mates? Yes.

You are ignorant of my specific situation and statistics. op.gg is fine for analyzing YOURSELF and beyond that it's a limited scope as ALL statistics are unless applied to EXACTLY the same sspecific situation. Which is entirely why I suggest this challenge. You do nothing but assume and accuse and make a horrible show of doing anything but being a complete idiot that doesn't really listen to what people are saying or what statistics are really showing because ALL you want to do is make a dilluded point that enforces your inane babble that might slightly correspond to what more advanced and expert people express. You are a fool and will waste no more of my time.

Gimpy893 votes

First off i was referring to the 39% kill participation I am a support main and i consider 60%- a mediocre performance. 39% means you are not there for fights (yes mine is at 56% right now but i have had a lot of bad games and am playing at my level. I'm not delusional about being better.). My point was that you aren't carrying your games and thus are playing at your own level (or slightly lower). If you were playing above bronze you would have very high kill participation and very low deaths. Also few of those games were support so i know you are talking out your ass.

If a high elo were playing in bronze their stats would look like this

18+ / 2- / 20+ (Kill Participation 85%+)

No one needs to take this dumb challenge i did 9/10 games in gold as only support since the mmr reset knocked me from p5 to gold. This is only playing a little under my level and i did a much harder version of your dumb challenge. Unless the challenge really is carrying/boosting you.

If you want to be delusional and blame elo hell go ahead and never improve. Just know anyone with any amount of intelligence knows you are full of shit and you are where you belong because the only common factor in your 100's of games is your game-play. AFK's trolls and bad players appear on the enemy 5/9 of the time and 4/9 of the time on your team so if you aren't one of them they HELP you climb.

your most recent games 4 / 6 / 8 88cs 32 min JG 10 / 5 / 4 151CS 41min JG 2 / 9 / 7 63CS 27min JG

a good game a shit game and a below average game. Obviously you are where you belong, but you probably remember the good game and forget your shit game since you are delusional.

xReadyPlayerOnex1 votes

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First off i was referring to the 39% kill participation I am a support main and i consider 60%- a mediocre performance. 39% means you are not there for fights (yes mine is at 56% right now but i have had a lot of bad games and am playing at my level. I'm not delusional about being better.). My point was that you aren't carrying your games and thus are playing at your own level (or slightly lower). If you were playing above bronze you would have very high kill participation and very low deaths. Also few of those games were support so i know you are talking out your ass.

If a high elo were playing in bronze their stats would look like this

18+ / 2- / 20+ (Kill Participation 85%+)

No one needs to take this dumb challenge i did 9/10 games in gold as only support since the mmr reset knocked me from p5 to gold. This is only playing a little under my level and i did a much harder version of your dumb challenge. Unless the challenge really is carrying/boosting you.

If you want to be delusional and blame elo hell go ahead and never improve. Just know anyone with any amount of intelligence knows you are full of shit and you are where you belong because the only common factor in your 100's of games is your game-play. AFK's trolls and bad players appear on the enemy 5/9 of the time and 4/9 of the time on your team so if you aren't one of them they HELP you climb.

your most recent games 4 / 6 / 8 88cs 32 min JG 10 / 5 / 4 151CS 41min JG 2 / 9 / 7 63CS 27min JG

a good game a shit game and a below average game. Obviously you are where you belong, but you probably remember the good game and forget your shit game since you are delusional.

Rude, illogical, elitest bullshit I'm not even going to bother responding to... enjoy the feeling of superiority, I assure you that nothing you do in this game or life will ever matter or be correct.

Gimpy892 votes

"I'm not even going to bother responding to" nice response

Well i must be doing something right since i got out of silver and into plat last season playing only 20% of the games you played this season without pathetically begging for an elo boost. Looks like nothing you do in this game matters since you don't improve and just blame your team and get angry. You are ignorant and arrogant so every loss is "your teams fault" in your mind when in reality it is yours because anyone that has played 200+ games and actually worked on getting better would go 40-0 and crush 100% of your shit 900 mmr games.

Almost everyone in bronze5 has your attitude because as soon as they change it they climb.

Also the -18 shows that the community knows your delusional.

xReadyPlayerOnex1 votes

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"I'm not even going to bother responding to" nice response

Well i must be doing something right since i got out of silver and into plat last season playing only 20% of the games you played this season without pathetically begging for an elo boost. Looks like nothing you do in this game matters since you don't improve and just blame your team and get angry. You are ignorant and arrogant so every loss is "your teams fault" in your mind when in reality it is yours because anyone that has played 200+ games and actually worked on getting better would go 40-0 and crush 100% of your shit 900 mmr games.

Almost everyone in bronze5 has your attitude because as soon as they change it they climb.

Also the -18 shows that the community knows your delusional.

LOL as if down votes mean anything.

Get a clue.

This game isn't 100% skill. It's math. Hard math in fact. I'm not going to bother responding to people who obviously can't do math.

If you think you're so good. Prove it. Accept the challenge or STFU. I personally HAVE gone 30/3/37 in this mmr and STILL lost cause my team fed 80 deaths. That's not me being bad, that's math saying 5 champions on other team > my 1 champion.

So done listening to ranting bullshit. Only person delusional here is you.

Gimpy892 votes

"I personally HAVE gone 30/3/37 in this mmr and STILL lost cause my team fed 80 deaths" flat out wrong. Did you forget that all your games are public? This game never occurred on your account. Delusion or lie? we will never know.

You are the one that sucks at math. If you understood basic statistics you would know that stable long term results are guaranteed for the average of random events by the LLN. Since you have played 100's of games this applies and individual games that you loose because of trolls ect don't matter at all because you win more games due to the enemy feeding/trolling. A feeder/afk/troll/bad player has a higher chance of appearing on the enemy team than your team (the 4 people on your team have a chance of being a feeder while the 5 people on the enemy team have a chance of being a feeder and this chance is uniform assuming the 9 other people that are in your game are randomly chosen, which they are). By the LLN the distribution will converge to the expectation (4/5 of all feeders on your team 5/9 on the enemy). The laws of statistics disprove your notion of elo hell. (this is a simplified explanation since i doubt you would understand distributions so i am treating feeders as binary (yes/no))

But you are to fucking stupid to understand the above statements so you'll just ignore it and brush it off so i dont know why i bother. It is like playing chess with a chicken.

I can do your challenge, but i don't want to boost trash. Your challenge is also retarded. With just a 50% win rate the challenge can be done 18% of the time so it doesn't prove anything even if someone did it. A data set of 5? LOL ok.

I have forgotten more math than you have ever learned kid. I have 3 IEEE publications on Direct sampling and blind calibration of bandpass signals with TIADCs while you probably struggle with calculus and differential equations.

Stay mad. Stay bad. Keep loosing games. keep begging for a boost. Totally 100% your teams fault.

Your individual games don't mean anything. Your averages are mediocre on ALL your champs. 1 Cary game followed by feeding like mad doesn't mean anything.

xReadyPlayerOnex1 votes

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"I personally HAVE gone 30/3/37 in this mmr and STILL lost cause my team fed 80 deaths" flat out wrong. Did you forget that all your games are public? This game never occurred on your account. Delusion or lie? we will never know.

You are the one that sucks at math. If you understood basic statistics you would know that stable long term results are guaranteed for the average of random events by the LLN. Since you have played 100's of games this applies and individual games that you loose because of trolls ect don't matter at all because you win more games due to the enemy feeding/trolling. A feeder/afk/troll/bad player has a higher chance of appearing on the enemy team than your team (the 4 people on your team have a chance of being a feeder while the 5 people on the enemy team have a chance of being a feeder and this chance is uniform assuming the 9 other people that are in your game are randomly chosen, which they are). By the LLN the distribution will converge to the expectation (4/5 of all feeders on your team 5/9 on the enemy). The laws of statistics disprove your notion of elo hell. (this is a simplified explanation since i doubt you would understand distributions so i am treating feeders as binary (yes/no))

But you are to fucking stupid to understand the above statements so you'll just ignore it and brush it off so i dont know why i bother. It is like playing chess with a chicken.

I can do your challenge, but i don't want to boost trash. Your challenge is also retarded. With just a 50% win rate the challenge can be done 18% of the time so it doesn't prove anything even if someone did it. A data set of 5? LOL ok.

I have forgotten more math than you have ever learned kid. I have 3 IEEE publications on Direct sampling and blind calibration of bandpass signals with TIADCs while you probably struggle with calculus and differential equations.

Stay mad. Stay bad. Keep loosing games. keep begging for a boost. Totally 100% your teams fault.

Your individual games don't mean anything. Your averages are mediocre on ALL your champs. 1 Cary game followed by feeding like mad doesn't mean anything.

Rude troll. Bait someone else.

Purple Death2 votes

Add my skype I can help you get out.

xReadyPlayerOnex1 votes

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Add my skype I can help you get out.

same as in game name? Please friend in game first.

Purple Death1 votes

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same as in game name? Please friend in game first.

Ya same as in-game

Kei1432 votes

ehh.. I'm pretty sure I can carry B5 games, and I'm just in B2

xReadyPlayerOnex1 votes

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ehh.. I'm pretty sure I can carry B5 games, and I'm just in B2

Prove it or STFU and delete this comment.

Kei1432 votes

Did so already. I'm in B2 for a reason, dispite being placed in B5 at the start of the season.

And I've been playing better than how I was at the start of the season.

You are welcome to add me to game, but I'll let you know ahead of time that I don't have much tolerance for toxic people.

xReadyPlayerOnex1 votes

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Did so already. I'm in B2 for a reason, dispite being placed in B5 at the start of the season.

And I've been playing better than how I was at the start of the season.

You are welcome to add me to game, but I'll let you know ahead of time that I don't have much tolerance for toxic people.

You did not complete my challenge, you may add me any time. I assure you, I'm not toxic or bad and anything you may think or be prejudiced toward me in that way will be proven incorrect should you attempt this challenge with me.

Alüe2 votes

sounds like a freelo carry

xReadyPlayerOnex1 votes

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sounds like a freelo carry

5 games isn't carrying me anywhere. And since no one has actually accomplished this challenge, your statement is absurd.

Alüe2 votes

strangely people have been able to do it and in fact have made streams off it. Just look at some of the twitch titles. Ranked climb from bronze-challenger (currently xxxx)

xReadyPlayerOnex1 votes

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strangely people have been able to do it and in fact have made streams off it. Just look at some of the twitch titles. Ranked climb from bronze-challenger (currently xxxx)

Just because there are outliers doesn't mean there's anything to your point nor does it counter my point. I'd give you specific examples but you'd misconstrue them or lie about their meaning and I don't have time for that. Answer the challenge or STFU imo.

Alüe1 votes

Not giving a free carry kiddo, 5 games is more than enough for a divisor series. Not to mention I've dug people out of that elo plenty of a time. The issue is with this season is you need more than 1 main carry. Especially if you normally play mid.

xReadyPlayerOnex1 votes

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Not giving a free carry kiddo, 5 games is more than enough for a divisor series. Not to mention I've dug people out of that elo plenty of a time. The issue is with this season is you need more than 1 main carry. Especially if you normally play mid.

Take the challenge or STFU. You wanna lie, you can lie and say you've done it. Till then, you haven't.

Bettnachleger2 votes

Interesting way to ask for a elo boost lol

Purple Death1 votes

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Interesting way to ask for a elo boost lol

Don't Judge >;)

xReadyPlayerOnex1 votes

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Don't Judge >;)

5 games do not count for an elo boost. it doesn't even get me through promos atm.

Fovere2 votes

TLDR: Carry me or stfu

xReadyPlayerOnex1 votes

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TLDR: Carry me or stfu

What crack do you smoke?

  1. No one has ever accomplished this challenge; if you'd like to try, do so or STFU
  2. 5 games carried? total? and probably less than 3? Doesn't gain me much.
  3. You're assuming you'd have to carry me. 12 of the 15 people who have tried this have told me I should be in gold or better mmr based on my play. Easily out of bronze at minimum. The 3 who didn't lost the challenge in the first 2 games.
  4. Maybe you should troll less, accept the challenge or STFU.
CrazFight 1 votes

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Fovere1 votes

You realize you basically just rephrased my comment, right?

xReadyPlayerOnex1 votes

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You realize you basically just rephrased my comment, right?

No, I didn't.

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