Whats the deal with all these Permabanned Players?

HexaDecimel··16 votes·2,881 views

I read through a lot of the discussions on Player Behaviour & Moderation and I see a lot of the same complaints.

Players will complain about their right to free speech and how pathetic it is that cursing will get them banned. They will talk about how unfair it is that other players troll but they are the one that gets the ban, or how they lose their temper just once and get punished. They will try to negotiate the terms of the punishment, normally asking for chat restrictions. Often times they will bring up excuses like champion balance, trolls, and matchmaking.

Other times they will flat out deny that they did or said anything wrong. Demanding proof from Riot. They will claim that they dont talk in chat, earned their rank fairly, and never used scripts or hacks. Sometimes they will even talk about how long its been since they last were punished. Even claim that they never once received fair warning that they could be punished and that a permaban is just way to unfair.

Eventually they will move on to stating how much money they have spent on the game, and how they better get reimbursed. Even going as far as to threaten legal action. They will threaten Riot stating that they will never play the game again and that the player base will eventually leave as well. And finally, start talking about another Moba that is better anyways.

After all of this, normally the complaint thread will die or a Rioter will come one and smite the complainer with the power of pure ownage. Every once and a while a mistake will be found and the ban will be removed. But that is a very rare occurrence.

The Rules as I have understood them are: Its Riots house, their rules, and cursing won't get you banned, cursing at people can. Players that consistently troll will eventually get caught. But if you retaliate you are just as deserving of a ban as they are. Don't ask people to report players. Riot has a four tier punishment system, they do not negotiate punishments, and and insta ban means you must have really gone all out. Riot will not go into detail on bans to avoid giving away methods of identifying cheaters. You do not own your account, you simply are allowed to use it and if you choose, spend money on it. Don't tamper with the game or let other players use your account. Riot has the right to do basically whatever they feel is best. They are one of the biggest and most popular games in the world, and losing a player that cheated will in no way hurt their business. And lastly, you agreed to all of this every time you update the FREAKING GAME!

Is it really that hard to follow?

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Maximum Morde9 votes

This just in, people are actually disgusting creatures. If we aren't trained correctly we behave like jackasses. Who knew?

Samus728 votes

No, it's not difficult to follow the rules. But for some, they make it difficult. I really can't say why.

SuspendedTyRito2 votes

Game 1 SuspendedTyRito: why SuspendedTyRito: wow dont be mean SuspendedTyRito: no need to be mean bro SuspendedTyRito: i bet you dont act like this in real life SuspendedTyRito: so why on the keyboard SuspendedTyRito: dont report me SuspendedTyRito: was a an accident SuspendedTyRito: im new man SuspendedTyRito: i need guidance SuspendedTyRito: stop stealing my cs SuspendedTyRito: i cant support SuspendedTyRito: zyra can SuspendedTyRito: ok i did it by accident SuspendedTyRito: i didnt do anything onpurpose SuspendedTyRito: i thought zyra was supp SuspendedTyRito: zyra can jungle anyway SuspendedTyRito: i didnt read that SuspendedTyRito: im sorry bro SuspendedTyRito: didint know SuspendedTyRito: stop being toxic SuspendedTyRito: just go bot zyra SuspendedTyRito: why SuspendedTyRito: help lux SuspendedTyRito: nice play SuspendedTyRito: not going to lie it was pretty good SuspendedTyRito: zyra stop flaming me SuspendedTyRito: i said sorry SuspendedTyRito: get over it SuspendedTyRito: go supp SuspendedTyRito: gj SuspendedTyRito: zyra if u stop following me you can help lanes man SuspendedTyRito: just let me get items pls SuspendedTyRito: wow reported SuspendedTyRito: you have no right to be saying this SuspendedTyRito: no one cares SuspendedTyRito: they want to play SuspendedTyRito: and you keep bitching in chat SuspendedTyRito: for real grow up SuspendedTyRito: you keep taking my jugnle cs so i cant do anthing SuspendedTyRito: report zyra SuspendedTyRito: for what SuspendedTyRito: report me for what? SuspendedTyRito: its not reportable i didnt steal your lane on purpose SuspendedTyRito: pls report zyra SuspendedTyRito: lmao pantheon wants to report me because i reported him for afk SuspendedTyRito: thats how salty he is SuspendedTyRito: ill report you pantheon for false reporting SuspendedTyRito: exactlt SuspendedTyRito: they dont care man SuspendedTyRito: i told you it was an accident SuspendedTyRito: zyra you are acting like i hacked you or something SuspendedTyRito: i said im sorry and you kept on raging SuspendedTyRito: so im going to report you SuspendedTyRito: we lost last game because you went afk SuspendedTyRito: you fucked us obver SuspendedTyRito: and to be honest i dont even care its just a normals game SuspendedTyRito: i just want to play and have fun SuspendedTyRito: but everywhere i go people start drama SuspendedTyRito: just end the game we have 2 afks SuspendedTyRito: to be fair pantheon you are an unlikable person SuspendedTyRito: you got mad after you dove a huge minion wave and raged at me SuspendedTyRito: its kinda funny

SuspendedTyRito2 votes

this got me suspended

Now watch how you will demonize me and say im so toxic and that i deserved this

SuspendedTyRito2 votes

league has fallen so low that you cant even say anything without offending someone its becoming a hugbox and if this trend does not end its only going to get worse.

DrCyanide2 votes

You don't get "suspended" (14-day ban) without going through the chat restriction punishments first, and unless you're extremely out of line you don't skip those.

This is one game you've had like that, out of how many similar?

SuspendedTyRito: im new man SuspendedTyRito: i need guidance

I also find it odd that a "new" player would make an account called "SuspendedTyRito". You were most likely trolling people on purpose with this account, or your main got banned for similar actions and you haven't changed.

For reference, the last punishment I got was in December 2011, and it was a one day leaver buster ban. That's it. It's not hard at all to not get punished in this game.

SuspendedTyRito1 votes

LMAO so just because i have a meme as my name you automatically can call me a troll also no i got chat restricted and suspended in one go. no warning at all just an email and got kicked out of the client. This is so frustrating that i can not get in touch with riot at all and sending a ticket doesnt do much

DrCyanide2 votes

No one picks such a "meme" as their name on their first account.

If you did get the chat restriction and suspension at the same time then the support ticket is your best bet to fix it. There are rare instances where the system goofs up and issues multiple punishments at once, and Player Support can fix that.

SuspendedTyRito1 votes

are you kidding me man? do you even go on twitch.tv? where do you think the damn name came from?

Lithium Rosa1 votes

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Game 1 SuspendedTyRito: why SuspendedTyRito: wow dont be mean SuspendedTyRito: no need to be mean bro SuspendedTyRito: i bet you dont act like this in real life SuspendedTyRito: so why on the keyboard SuspendedTyRito: dont report me SuspendedTyRito: was a an accident SuspendedTyRito: im new man SuspendedTyRito: i need guidance SuspendedTyRito: stop stealing my cs SuspendedTyRito: i cant support SuspendedTyRito: zyra can SuspendedTyRito: ok i did it by accident SuspendedTyRito: i didnt do anything onpurpose SuspendedTyRito: i thought zyra was supp SuspendedTyRito: zyra can jungle anyway SuspendedTyRito: i didnt read that SuspendedTyRito: im sorry bro SuspendedTyRito: didint know SuspendedTyRito: stop being toxic SuspendedTyRito: just go bot zyra SuspendedTyRito: why SuspendedTyRito: help lux SuspendedTyRito: nice play SuspendedTyRito: not going to lie it was pretty good SuspendedTyRito: zyra stop flaming me SuspendedTyRito: i said sorry SuspendedTyRito: get over it SuspendedTyRito: go supp SuspendedTyRito: gj SuspendedTyRito: zyra if u stop following me you can help lanes man SuspendedTyRito: just let me get items pls SuspendedTyRito: wow reported SuspendedTyRito: you have no right to be saying this SuspendedTyRito: no one cares SuspendedTyRito: they want to play SuspendedTyRito: and you keep bitching in chat SuspendedTyRito: for real grow up SuspendedTyRito: you keep taking my jugnle cs so i cant do anthing SuspendedTyRito: report zyra SuspendedTyRito: for what SuspendedTyRito: report me for what? SuspendedTyRito: its not reportable i didnt steal your lane on purpose SuspendedTyRito: pls report zyra SuspendedTyRito: lmao pantheon wants to report me because i reported him for afk SuspendedTyRito: thats how salty he is SuspendedTyRito: ill report you pantheon for false reporting SuspendedTyRito: exactlt SuspendedTyRito: they dont care man SuspendedTyRito: i told you it was an accident SuspendedTyRito: zyra you are acting like i hacked you or something SuspendedTyRito: i said im sorry and you kept on raging SuspendedTyRito: so im going to report you SuspendedTyRito: we lost last game because you went afk SuspendedTyRito: you fucked us obver SuspendedTyRito: and to be honest i dont even care its just a normals game SuspendedTyRito: i just want to play and have fun SuspendedTyRito: but everywhere i go people start drama SuspendedTyRito: just end the game we have 2 afks SuspendedTyRito: to be fair pantheon you are an unlikable person SuspendedTyRito: you got mad after you dove a huge minion wave and raged at me SuspendedTyRito: its kinda funny

There's definitely some problems with this system if this level of speech is worth banning and I still see toxic players around all the time

SuspendedTyRito2 votes

people refuse to admit riot can be wrong at times. It sucks seeing people being forced to stop playing a game they love just because riot is putting a stranglehold on "toxicity" which is as pointless as the war on drugs. its gone too far and now people who say silly words like "stupid" or "dumb" are going to be removed aswell until everyone has a safe space in league of children.

Lithium Rosa2 votes

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people refuse to admit riot can be wrong at times. It sucks seeing people being forced to stop playing a game they love just because riot is putting a stranglehold on "toxicity" which is as pointless as the war on drugs. its gone too far and now people who say silly words like "stupid" or "dumb" are going to be removed aswell until everyone has a safe space in league of children.

I don't even have problems with that if they are actually banning those actually toxic players

SuspendedTyRito1 votes

so you want an echo chamber where you cant say anything that might offend someone else even if thats not your intent? and if you do step out of line you are punished severely? That is some fucked up community you want to be a part.

Twiggles5 votes

You were begging others to help you report people. That is most definitely a reportable and punishable offense. Think what you want about how Riot is being "too strict", but the bottom line is that you and everyone else that gets banned for toxic chat needs to realize that self control is an important thing to acquire.

This kind of chat is not something that would get you banned instantly, but it could very well get you banned if you've already gone through and ignored the other three punishment tiers. And if you've gone through the two chat restrictions and 14 day ban and learned nothing from them, then you will find no sympathy from me.

SuspendedTyRito2 votes

Since when is this a bannable offense? every single damn game ive played always dwindles down to people asking for reports. SO WHY ISNT EVERYONE BANNED?

SuspendedTyRito2 votes

no warnings at all in the client or an email atleast. this type of thing has been around since reporting was a thing so if thats the case why didnt they try to reach out and tell people its against the rules now?

Twiggles2 votes

They did tell people. Riot Lyte went into detail about the report system when it was upgraded early last year.

SuspendedTyRito3 votes

oh it was implemented when lyte destroyed the tribunal and created a monster gotcha

Twiggles2 votes

Whatever you have to say to make yourself feel better I suppose. You being mad about the system doesn't mean it doesn't work.

SuspendedTyRito2 votes

its a broken system

Twiggles2 votes

Saying it doesn't magically make it so.

SuspendedTyRito3 votes

saying anything doesnt make anything happen magically, but the system without a doubt is broken

Twiggles2 votes

Except it's not...

It bans ragers, feeders, afkers, and everyone in between.

The system, without a doubt, is working fine. You being mad about your ban doesn't change that.

SuspendedTyRito2 votes

i was gang reported by 4 people and managed to be suspended its broken

SuspendedTyRito2 votes

also the old tribunal was fine

Twiggles1 votes

Gang reports are pointless. Have been for quite a while now.

Reports are counted on a per game reported in basis. NOT sheer report volume.

It is like this specifically so that premades can't mass report solo queue players and hold them hostage that way.

If you were punished, you were already lined up for a punishment be it 1 report or 9. The system is not the problem here.

SuspendedTyRito2 votes

Riot Lyte shills are everywhere I wonder how much he pays you to type this.

Twiggles3 votes

Lyte doesn't pay me a cent. I'm just sharing some of the freely available information about how the report system works. On top of that, shill is an incredibly inaccurate term for what I am.

shill: an accomplice of a hawker, gambler, or swindler who acts as an enthusiastic customer to entice or encourage others.

I AM an enthusiastic customer, and I DO encourage others to enjoy this game. However, Riot as a company is by no definition a hawker, gambler, or swindler. As for Lyte personally, I don't know if he gambles. As far as hawking and swindling goes though, I'm pretty sure he has nothing directly to do with Riot's finances. Thus those two things go out the window as well.

No matter how mad at me or the system you get, it won't change the fact that the report system is currently working correctly and as intended.

Twiggles2 votes

Because most people learn from their chat restrictions and 14 day ban that their behavior needs to change. The few that ignore those warnings are the ones that get banned, and that is a very small percentage of the playerbase.

On top of that, not everyone is an ass to their teammates in the first place.

SuspendedTyRito1 votes

Where was i an ass to my teammate? I locked in trynd jungle by accident since zyra looks like a support champ to me i fucked up addmittingly and said i was sorry for it zyra didnt want to hear it and told me to afk. Im trying to clear jungle she follows and smites everything i get annoyed saying she should go support bot since trynd cant supp she says shes jungle and that i should go afk. i ignore that and keep playing soon the enemy team hears whats going on and are saying they will report me. im tilted and i tell them it was an accident sorry cant gank anywhere because im still low level and ill just feed lanes. I never once talked shit to my team i only asked for forgiveness and now im crucified by you for not grovelling enough to my team.

Zen Fury2 votes

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Where was i an ass to my teammate? I locked in trynd jungle by accident since zyra looks like a support champ to me i fucked up addmittingly and said i was sorry for it zyra didnt want to hear it and told me to afk. Im trying to clear jungle she follows and smites everything i get annoyed saying she should go support bot since trynd cant supp she says shes jungle and that i should go afk. i ignore that and keep playing soon the enemy team hears whats going on and are saying they will report me. im tilted and i tell them it was an accident sorry cant gank anywhere because im still low level and ill just feed lanes. I never once talked shit to my team i only asked for forgiveness and now im crucified by you for not grovelling enough to my team.

You don't get banned for one game unless you're cheating or are really over the top (and it has to be really bad for that to happen).

You posted an ALLEGED chat. We have no other evidence besides your word, which is already highly suspect since you make a claim that is outright false.

I'm pretty sure if a wild Lyte suddenly appeared in this thread, there'd be little doubt as to why you were banned.

SuspendedTyRito1 votes

I posted my chat logs thats all i got in the email. i could screenshot the page if that makes it anymore real. I just want to contact with someone who has my chatlogs and can give me the run down why i was suspended so fast and with no real reason beside i guess asking for reports which i didnt know was a thing

Twiggles2 votes

I'm saying in general. Not specifically your chat here. You were an ass when you started begging for reports though. Someone else being an ass isn't an excuse for you to as well. You don't need to grovel. You just need to shut up and not give their reports weight.

SuspendedTyRito2 votes

I got chat restricted and suspension in one go no warning for either until it kicked me out of my client I dont want your damn sympathy I want to know why a simple rule change with no warning or heads up can get me banned

Twiggles2 votes

The rule hadn't changed. It's been like that for a very long time now. Ignorance of the rules is not a valid excuse for breaking them.

SuspendedTyRito2 votes

this has never happened to me ever and where in the reports does it say {report player for asking for report}?

Twiggles2 votes

Begging for reports falls under "harassment". This is because it is essentially you asking everyone else in a game to gang up on one person and report them even though multiple reports in one game are JUST as effective as one report per game.

Narvuntien2 votes

I have been playing for 5 years and never had anything close to a ban.

I have left exactly one game in all that time.. (There was a mix up in champ select and we had two junglers, I sat in fountain asking if I was mid or jungle, they finally told me I was jungler then mid stole my blue before I got there).

It is easy to... yell at the screen or whien to a friend about this guy and never say anything to them. you can be annoied without lashing out. I had a yasuo support today, "Hey, if you are going to call support, you better play support next time" "lol you think i am stupid, it's a normal" we won that game...

the next game the enemy team had a brat that threw a tantrum because they had an ashe support and was being beaten in lane. "Lol it's a normal try hard" "Playing well is not try hard" they, playing cait, bought nothing by amp tomes and ashe afked "Just because you lost your lane is not reason to ruin the enjoyment of others" " I don't give 17 fucks about losing" "yeah because people that don't care throw tantrums.. sure" This game we took the nexus in 20 min

Neither of these interactions are good, but I might of seething over here but I never got beyond passive agressive. don't play a game if you aren't in the mood to deal with people, people suck.

Cloak an Dagger2 votes

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I read through a lot of the discussions on Player Behaviour & Moderation and I see a lot of the same complaints.

Players will complain about their right to free speech and how pathetic it is that cursing will get them banned. They will talk about how unfair it is that other players troll but they are the one that gets the ban, or how they lose their temper just once and get punished. They will try to negotiate the terms of the punishment, normally asking for chat restrictions. Often times they will bring up excuses like champion balance, trolls, and matchmaking.

Other times they will flat out deny that they did or said anything wrong. Demanding proof from Riot. They will claim that they dont talk in chat, earned their rank fairly, and never used scripts or hacks. Sometimes they will even talk about how long its been since they last were punished. Even claim that they never once received fair warning that they could be punished and that a permaban is just way to unfair.

Eventually they will move on to stating how much money they have spent on the game, and how they better get reimbursed. Even going as far as to threaten legal action. They will threaten Riot stating that they will never play the game again and that the player base will eventually leave as well. And finally, start talking about another Moba that is better anyways.

After all of this, normally the complaint thread will die or a Rioter will come one and smite the complainer with the power of pure ownage. Every once and a while a mistake will be found and the ban will be removed. But that is a very rare occurrence.

The Rules as I have understood them are: Its Riots house, their rules, and cursing won't get you banned, cursing at people can. Players that consistently troll will eventually get caught. But if you retaliate you are just as deserving of a ban as they are. Don't ask people to report players. Riot has a four tier punishment system, they do not negotiate punishments, and and insta ban means you must have really gone all out. Riot will not go into detail on bans to avoid giving away methods of identifying cheaters. You do not own your account, you simply are allowed to use it and if you choose, spend money on it. Don't tamper with the game or let other players use your account. Riot has the right to do basically whatever they feel is best. They are one of the biggest and most popular games in the world, and losing a player that cheated will in no way hurt their business. And lastly, you agreed to all of this every time you update the FREAKING GAME!

Is it really that hard to follow?

http://i.imgur.com/U62wloe.jpg)

EndlessSorcerer2 votes

If they were smart, they wouldn't have gotten banned in the first place.

GRVet3ran0sS1 votes

Well i can wish cancer and flame like a jackass and i wont be punished but when i say to report the x player i will be banned

Cloak an Dagger1 votes

{quoted}

I read through a lot of the discussions on Player Behaviour & Moderation and I see a lot of the same complaints.

Players will complain about their right to free speech and how pathetic it is that cursing will get them banned. They will talk about how unfair it is that other players troll but they are the one that gets the ban, or how they lose their temper just once and get punished. They will try to negotiate the terms of the punishment, normally asking for chat restrictions. Often times they will bring up excuses like champion balance, trolls, and matchmaking.

Other times they will flat out deny that they did or said anything wrong. Demanding proof from Riot. They will claim that they dont talk in chat, earned their rank fairly, and never used scripts or hacks. Sometimes they will even talk about how long its been since they last were punished. Even claim that they never once received fair warning that they could be punished and that a permaban is just way to unfair.

Eventually they will move on to stating how much money they have spent on the game, and how they better get reimbursed. Even going as far as to threaten legal action. They will threaten Riot stating that they will never play the game again and that the player base will eventually leave as well. And finally, start talking about another Moba that is better anyways.

After all of this, normally the complaint thread will die or a Rioter will come one and smite the complainer with the power of pure ownage. Every once and a while a mistake will be found and the ban will be removed. But that is a very rare occurrence.

The Rules as I have understood them are: Its Riots house, their rules, and cursing won't get you banned, cursing at people can. Players that consistently troll will eventually get caught. But if you retaliate you are just as deserving of a ban as they are. Don't ask people to report players. Riot has a four tier punishment system, they do not negotiate punishments, and and insta ban means you must have really gone all out. Riot will not go into detail on bans to avoid giving away methods of identifying cheaters. You do not own your account, you simply are allowed to use it and if you choose, spend money on it. Don't tamper with the game or let other players use your account. Riot has the right to do basically whatever they feel is best. They are one of the biggest and most popular games in the world, and losing a player that cheated will in no way hurt their business. And lastly, you agreed to all of this every time you update the FREAKING GAME!

Is it really that hard to follow?

They are farming down-votes. Just as you are farming up-votes to boost your e-peen! Have a nice day! (◕‿◕✿)

Vischer1 votes

they only increased permaban to increase revenue, ban players, make them start over to make more money buying the same champs and skins they paid the first time around. Oh and their executive got busted for security fraud. gives you an idea what kind of greedy whores run the company.

ModPrandine1 votes

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they only increased permaban to increase revenue, ban players, make them start over to make more money buying the same champs and skins they paid the first time around. Oh and their executive got busted for security fraud. gives you an idea what kind of greedy whores run the company.

Nope, wrong. If they're permabanning you then that means that they no longer want your time or your money.

From Ulanopo's Knowledge Base:

“Riot bans people because they make money off of forcing people to create new accounts and repurchase the skins.”

Just stop. This is a really silly argument. I didn’t pay for my account any more than you did and while I have bought a number of things, I didn’t have to. There’s nothing relevant to competitive play that I couldn’t have bought with IP.

Also, Riot actively discourages people from making new accounts.

From Lyte: (link (http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=33432435#post33432435))

Actually, if we're permabanning you we don't want your money or your time. Just find another game.

(Help from MadmanWithBox)

prozak821 votes

it is sad how weaponized the report feature has become. you can barely do or say anything without all these pathetic crybabies threatening to report you.

ModPrandine

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it is sad how weaponized the report feature has become. you can barely do or say anything without all these pathetic crybabies threatening to report you.

People can report you for pretty much anything, but as long as you're doing nothing that's against the rules then the report will get flagged as a false report and the one who made that false report will get punished instead.

Z Statistic1 votes

Don't try to make this more than it is. Several Rioters have confirmed that the overwhelming majority of players have never been punished by the system. Of the remaining handful of percent, a miniscule proportion of THAT are permabans.

We're talking maybe a few thousand accounts worldwide out of the tens of millions of accounts.

PROJECT CANCSUO1 votes

Permanent ban worthy?

Before you start reading, "Aaron" is my duo partner, PROJECT CANCERSUO. You can search him up if you want. I do not know how one could be perma-banned for such as this. The "ty" and "ez" comments is me and aaron fighting for minion waves. Game 1 PROJECT CANCSUO: 2247. PROJECT CANCSUO: wait PROJECT CANCSUO: wait PROJECT CANCSUO: ? PROJECT CANCSUO: miss for dead PROJECT CANCSUO: brother he is too paSSIVE PROJECT CANCSUO: gg freeze PROJECT CANCSUO: yo aaron PROJECT CANCSUO: next time he uses tele PROJECT CANCSUO: ult as he goes PROJECT CANCSUO: its god PROJECT CANCSUO: no PROJECT CANCSUO: kill him PROJECT CANCSUO: she looks PROJECT CANCSUO: so tasty PROJECT CANCSUO: ? PROJECT CANCSUO: ahahahah PROJECT CANCSUO: gg PROJECT CANCSUO: omg PROJECT CANCSUO: 9-1 PROJECT CANCSUO: roger PROJECT CANCSUO: omg PROJECT CANCSUO: this lag PROJECT CANCSUO: ? PROJECT CANCSUO: r0-4ekt PROJECT CANCSUO: wrong chat PROJECT CANCSUO: c PROJECT CANCSUO: ty PROJECT CANCSUO: no shield karma PROJECT CANCSUO: nice kills PROJECT CANCSUO: prey on the weak PROJECT CANCSUO: noob aaron PROJECT CANCSUO: ez PROJECT CANCSUO: yo i got so scared PROJECT CANCSUO: i thoguht somone knocking on my basement door PROJECT CANCSUO: u know the screen one PROJECT CANCSUO: it was snow smashing it PROJECT CANCSUO: ? PROJECT CANCSUO: ?

I guess all i can do is laugh at this so called "system" Riot has developed. #BanBotOp

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