As the title states it's been 10 months and over 1,500 games since one of my accounts last received its 2 week ban, can I safely assume I have dropped down in IFS punishment tiers by now? I started receiving hextech rewards about 6 or so months ago. I haven't used the chat function at all on that account so no negative behavior.
ModThe Djinn4 votesIt's hard to say -- I suspect it's likely, but none of us can be certain.
I would say it's probably safe to assume that, but I wouldn't let it affect your behavior -- just maybe let it take some of the stress away from the fear of a banhammer at ANY moment. Make sure you don't revert to old habits or you'll be back up in no time.
FilDaFunk4 votesYOU MAY NEVER FLAME AGAIN!
ModPeriscope3 votesFirst off, good for you! I'd think that you have your account back in good standing.
Warlord Scrap2 votesId say your probably reformed but id still say to watch what you say rather that risk getting a perma
coeurloyal2 votesIf you started receiving rewards that long ago, odds are you're out of low priority queue and good to go. Already having a 2-week ban on your account means they would bring the hammer down faster that normal in the future, though. However, with no chat use I don't see why you would have any reason to be concerned about that.
RacoonHunter1 votesNot really. once riot sees that you're "reformed" aka hextech rewards. you return back to a normal account with the normal time between reviews.
Deep Terror Nami1 votesHextech reward eligibility is not tied to account punishment status. You can start earning Hextech loot again much sooner than you will drop a punishment tier.
with the normal time between reviews
I'm making some inferences here to figure out what you're saying, but if you are talking about the number of reports it takes to trigger of review, all reports always trigger a review. The Tribunal system used a report density system, but the Instant Feedback System does not.
AmazoX1 votesWhen does a punishment tier drop and how? What's the process?
Deep Terror Nami1 votesIt's drops by you showing good behavior as you continue to play games (you can't show reform if you don't play, and continuing to show negative behavior will make it take longer). The time varies because it depends on your behavior, but it is said that the average time it takes people to decay one punishment tier is about 3 months.
Imperial Pandaa1 votesIsn't that also pending how many games you play per day DTN?
Like if I play one game once a week it may take longer?
As opposed to I play 10 games a day it may be shorter?
Deep Terror Nami1 votesYes, that's what I was meaning by "as you continue to play games (you can't show reform if you don't play".
PersianShinobi1 votesJust curious, does neutral behavior help your account status the same way positive behavior does? I've found that I can't type in the majority of games as I have at least one teammate playing really poorly, trolling, or flaming his brains out, and I unfortunately don't have the discipline to keep a positive mindset in those situations so I opt to say nothing instead of saying something negative.
fumiefan2 votesI doubt it.
This games works off of a cumulative jackpot system for bans and it's easier to make a new account than it is to drop a punishment level.
Remember, that one game where you get group blamed for the team losing is all it takes.
Imperial Pandaa6 votesI doubt it.
This games works off of a cumulative jackpot system for bans and it's easier to make a new account than it is to drop a punishment level.
Remember, that one game where you get group blamed for the team losing is all it takes.
That isn't how the system works at all? Granted no one actually knows the requirements of dropping down in tier, and that has more to do with preventing people from abusing the knowledge.
Group blame and reports don't mean anything if you haven't done anything actually wrong. 1 report is the same as 9.
fumiefan4 votesGroup blame and reports don't mean anything if you haven't done anything actually wrong. 1 report is the same as 9.
The thing is, any criticism, any joke or snarky comment, arguing, complaining, talking too much, wanting to end the game, mentioning that you will report someone or actual flaming is deemed worthy of a ban by this board. And that's not hyperbole, that's how this board feels through various posts. We're in a situation so grave here that anything but complete over the top 100% positivity is ban worthy. This isn't realistic and this isn't even possible. If bans were applied to real life like they are by various members of this board, I would be banned from talking to every one of my family members, coworkers and friends and pretty much every company ever.
We also know Riot goes back multiple games to justify bans and the deeper they look, the better chance they have of finding something. We have no idea if there are any rules for this process either, so people could be punished in theory for things said 50 games ago.
Imperial Pandaa4 votesThe thing is, any criticism, arguing or actual flaming is deemed worthy of a ban by this board.
This is also incorrect. Constructive Criticism is not. Arguing only if you spend more time typing than playing, or it becomes a matter of attacking the other player. Flaming, is the arguing with attacking or just making remarks you know are troublesome.
fumiefan2 votesI've seen what people justified on here, and believe me, this board would ban someone 10x over for even the most constructive of criticism.
Of course, the same people completely forget all of that when it comes with dealing with people who disagree with you on this board.
TrulyBland2 votesOkay, let's say for one tiny second that you're actually right: That doesn't mean that people get banned for constructive criticism. And if you are trying to say that this does happen: Prove it. Riot does send reform cards with all punishments issued by the system, so it should be fairly easy to prove.
fumiefan2 votesI've seen them and I've posted some of my own.
When you are looking for something, you'll find something and this board is looking for SJW revenge pron.
The best thing is that most of the rioters wouldn't even pass the behavior system. I've had multiple interactions where some very un-PC stuff was said from Rioters.
TrulyBland3 votesSo, rather than prove your original statement, you went on to now make even more baseless claims about how Rioters "wouldn't even pass the behaviour system", which on top of everything else is a conspiracy theory, given that it would require Riot to actively exclude their accounts from the system.
fumiefan1 votesThe proof is in the board history. It's been done so many times.
I just don't keep various logs and threads and responses on me like change.
I've been personally attacked by 3 Rioters.
TrulyBland2 votesWould be handy to do so if you're going to make wild claims like this.
Imperial Pandaa5 votesI'm looking through your discussions and no Rioters have even commented on any of your boards. The only time I see any color is the Blues. Mind you, Blues are volunteers who understand the rules and summoner's code. They don't work for Riot.
If you are referring to your "Why was I banned post?" They were simply trying to explain the situation while you kept ignoring what they said.
fumiefan1 votesI'm looking through your discussions and no Rioters have even commented on any of your boards.
Could it be because:
I have numerous accounts
That there are multiple ways to communicate with Rioters aside from this board?
And no, I'm not posting my account names and personal conversations for the Player Behavior and Medication White Knights.
Imperial Pandaa2 votesLast time I'm going to respond to you on this post.
You want someone to prove that you weren't harassed by Rioters, yet you refuse to give evidence that you were.
That would be me claiming that I'm Emma Watson, not giving proof that I am and simply telling you to prove that I'm not.
It doesn't matter if you have multiple accounts or the means you conversed with Riot. If you fail to provide evidence, then it will of course be doubted until such a time that it is proved.
Good day to you.
Jorencice5 votesCalling bullshit.
I have 5000 games plays and I know someone's with like 12000 games played and they haven't even played with 1 rioter.
Let alone been attacked by 3.
UnboundHades1 votesI have played with a rioter once randomly in a normal game
Jorencice1 votesOh I can believe once or twice.
But 3 times and all of those times they harrased him.
Nope didn't happen.
fumiefan1 votesSo show me your proof joren. You've made a big claim and should have real evidence to back it up.
Go ahead, I'll be waiting.
Jorencice3 votesYou made the claim actually. I'm calling you out.
The onus of evidence is on you. Not me.
fumiefan1 votesLet me know when you can prove your claim that I was not harassed by Rioters. Keep in mind this is one of many many accounts and that there are many ways to communicate with Rioters.
And no, I'm not posting personal conversations on here with the Player Behavior and Medication white knights.
fumiefan1 votesLet's see the evidence then Joren. You made a claim, show your proof.
Angrychickén2 votesYou sound like your banned.
Just a guess though, could be wrong.
But judging by your comment history, it would make sense.
fumiefan1 votesThat's the great thing about being banned in LOL, you are a couple of clicks away from being unbanned.
Looks like I got Player Behavior and Medication mad lol
ModPeriscope3 votesIt works off of severity and frequency. Jackpot just doesn't sound like the right word as it implies something you'd want to obtain, and chance. As Imperial Pandaa pointed out, it only takes one report to trigger a review.
fumiefan2 votesDropping down a punishment level seems almost impossible, but yet you can always get to the next punishment level.
That describes a jackpot system well.
ModPeriscope2 votesHey I wonder if dropping a support ticket and asking them directly if they'd let you know. Try and let us know.
Mizuki Zahra2 votes10 months and only 1500 games? those are rookie numbers, you gotta pump those numbers up, you have to play 200000 before you reach the 3 hour mark..... lol
submit ticket they will let you know
RacoonHunter1 votesit's safe to say that if you're getting hextech rewards, your accounts basically "reset" in terms of punishment. they hold the hextech system to a higher standard than their punishment system.
Tr1ckster32 votesYou don't happen to have a source? Last I checked the consensus was that hextech rewards and punishment tiers dropping were not related, and that the latter typically takes quite a bit longer.
BlueThingamajig1 votesIt's true that they are unrelated tiers, but having access to hextech crafting indicates that the system thinks your behavior is correct in terms of reducing punishment tiers.
See here:
Previously penalized players need to demonstrate commitment to positive play over time, even after wrapping up a chat restriction or ban.
If you've been maintaining the sportsmanlike play that earned access to HC, then you almost certainly have dropped punishment tiers over 10 months. Of course, I definitely don't recommend being unsportsmanlike, but if you were to slip up a little, it would probably only be a 10-game chat restriction.
Imperial Pandaa1 votesNot quite. It doesn't reset to 0. At most he would drop down one tier. So if he has had a 2-week ban he could potentially get another one instead of a perma. Instead of being at the 2 week -> Perma step you would be at 25 game chat restriction -> 2 week
BlueThingamajig1 votesIt absolutely can reset to 0. If we assume OP showed sufficient reform from day one, then they will have dropped 3 tiers of punishment. Maybe it hasn't reset all the way yet (next punishment is 25 game instead of 10 game), but it definitely can go to 0, and if the OP is being truthful, it most likely has
Imperial Pandaa1 votesLet me rephrase. It doesn't just immediately drop to 0. It goes back down through the tiers.
Sorry. I should have said that better.
Thuban1 votesWrong, I've been 14 day banned for verbal shenanigans. Still received rewards before and after.
General Esdeath 1 votesOnly one way to find out. We will give you the test. Post the first reply that comes to mind.
hehe
Zephyrous X1 votesNah, next time you fuck up you will be perma banned
PersianShinobi1 votesNot a single chance. The only way you drop punishment tiers is by literally dick sucking all the flamers and trolls you get in your game. By not typing anything, you're not showing that you've positively reformed, so in Riot's mind, you're still a toxic piece of shit.
Thuban1 votesYou could offer pleasure, finacial security for life, and death, to every single staff member at riot games, And you will still get banned all the same
Thuban1 votesYou may be reformed, but the next one is still permanent. Treat it as such.