Interesting logic i realised after a friend got a 14 day ban

Et Tu Geddn XNa ··3 votes·1,407 views

U can call people trash u can flame them to infinity and beyond and make them hate their life but when u write kys twice in a post lobby u get a 14 day ban instantly [zombie-brand-mindblown] [zombie-brand-clap] now thats the logic we know and love from the system [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

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ModThe Djinn11 votes

U can call people trash u can flame them to infinity and beyond

If you like being chat restricted, suspended, and then permanently banned, yes.

...but when u write kys twice in a post lobby u get a 14 day ban

Because requesting that someone to actually end their own life is a bit worse than just calling them trash, yes.

Et Tu Geddn XNa 1 votes

Actually by the divines standard if u flame someone to the point they hate themselves then no u will only get warnings then if it happens after a long long long long long time then yes u might get that. The divines are never known for their consistency.

Also writing Kys should be an instant ban when the other dude is flaming also is even more funny.

ModThe Djinn7 votes

[{quoted}](name=Et Tu Geddn XNa ,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=2YEgAvhw,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-06-04T19:03:51.927+0000)Actually by the divines standard if u flame someone to the point they hate themselves then no u will only get warnings then if it happens after a long long long long long time then yes u might get that. The divines are never known for their consistency.

This is flatly incorrect. Highly aggressive flaming often results in escalated bans, sometimes directly to the 14-day ban level, and each subsequent punishment is less and less merciful. We see this in action on the boards over and over and over.

Also writing Kys should be an instant ban when the other dude is flaming also is even more funny.

You are judged solely for your own behavior. Nothing they do or say makes you tell them to kill themselves, and so the responsibility for those words is still entirely your own.

Et Tu Geddn XNa 1 votes

Saying it twice in post game lobby when the person hasnt been suspended in anyway in the past is kinda funny if u ask me considering how many flamers gets a 10 game chat restrictions when they hard flame someone and some of that flame at times being on a lower level than just telling the other person to take their own life? The logic there is that u can flame someone alot probably make someones game a misery to a far point or even many people but if u say kys 1 or 2 in a post game lobby u instantly get 14 day ban. Chat restriction yeah i can see that 14 day ban when the person hasnt been previously suspended not so much. As i said previously gods works in mysterious ways

ModThe Djinn7 votes

[{quoted}](name=Et Tu Geddn XNa ,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=2YEgAvhw,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-04T19:11:51.600+0000)Saying it twice in post game lobby when the person hasnt been suspended in anyway in the past...

That's because it's a zero tolerance policy. You are telling someone to kill themselves over something as silly as a video game.

As i said previously gods works in mysterious ways

If you're referring to Riot as "god" here then no, their punishment system works in extremely predictable and reliable ways.

Et Tu Geddn XNa 1 votes

U do realise that people say alot worse than just kys right? Its only a video game as u say so i dont think pushing someone to the point of depression is any better. Loved the discussion although logic wise makes less sense

ModThe Djinn5 votes

[{quoted}](name=Et Tu Geddn XNa ,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=2YEgAvhw,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-04T19:17:02.591+0000)U do realise that people say alot worse than just kys right? Its only a video game as u say so i dont think pushing someone to the point of depression is any better.

I'm aware that there are things that some people consider worse, yes. The reason KYS because such a zero-tolerance thing, however, is that it was one of the most reliably reported phrases and one of the ones that bothered players the most. The system learns, and what is learned is that League players consider it completely unacceptable.

I'm not saying other toxic behavior isn't also bad, and this is why excessive toxicity can result in an immediate 14-day ban. Between low instances of "you're trash" and "go kill yourself," however, the latter is far worse. Hence why the latter is zero tolerance, and the former is dependent on frequency and severity.

Oleandervine4 votes

Fun fact, the pre-game and post-game lobbies are now part of the chat logs now. Content you express in either lobby can be reviewed and punished.

Et Tu Geddn XNa 1 votes

That u get instantly banned with a 14 day one is hilarious when the one who said it hasnt been toxic beside that. The gods works in mysterious ways

Oleandervine6 votes

No, the zero-tolerance policy works as intended. When you do things like use hate speech or encourage people to commit suicide, you get immediately punished, as Riot does not tolerate this kind of language at all.

Et Tu Geddn XNa 1 votes

Both hate speach and (kys) comments are worked around by the most toxic players who to this day roams around the rift looking for preys to exploit

DearPear2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Et Tu Geddn XNa ,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=2YEgAvhw,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-04T19:45:31.458+0000)

Both hate speach and (kys) comments are worked around by the most toxic players who to this day roams around the rift looking for preys to exploit

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Et Tu Geddn XNa 1 votes

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Oleandervine2 votes

Yeah, and?

Xidphel1 votes

They were reviewed/punished since before they were added.

FOR JUSTICE3 votes

because we take encouragement to self harm much more seriously then trash talk you can find anywhere else?

Et Tu Geddn XNa 1 votes

Yeah i think the other guy who flames really care about if the opposing player told them that. U do know that trash/flaming can lead to depression = suicide no?

HommeGoujon1 votes

May the holy MUTE+REPORT combo save your deprived soul. Amen

meticoulouswolf1 votes

it sounds fair to me like telling someone they should uninstall and that they are the worst kinds of players can be chalked up to ppl being salty and gets reported but telling ppl to go kill themselves and Example: (Get Cancer) and such totally deserve any punishment they get

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