The eternal hate on eternals.

Camen Fox·Feb 21, 2020·1 votes·3,568 views

Why are you people getting so fcking pissed off about eternals, like seriously. Never have I seen so many people hate on Riot so bad. I don't really mind eternals, want to know why. Because I am someone who likes knowing my stats. I like to know how good I am getting at my champ. It makes me (as an Ahri main) want to hit more charms, and when I have a set goal like that, it tends to be that I hit more charms. If you really hate eternals so bad, then don't f*cking buy them. It really is so simple. Riot is putting out there something for the people who are proud of their skills and want to show off even a little. It's nice knowing "Oh, this person has more mastery points than me but still doesn't have as many 'whatever you want to put in here' as me". People who flame Riot to holy hell are beings d!cks for no apparent reason other than "Oh I want you to work on Zoe because she can one shot me". Yall can flame me all you want and RIot, but there really is no point to doing it. Eternals are fine, it might even make more people enjoy the game more. Just wait for this stuff to come out before you flame. I also have to point out that, it's good for a company to indulge in other little things for their community, if all they are ever working on is coding the game to be more balanced, or the client to stop crashing, or other things constantly, it can get boring as fuck in your job. You have to think that, hey, these are people who want to let the community have more fun, but still make some money while doings so. It's just like any other job, keep the community happy while making some money.

21 Comments

VoraciousXFeb 21, 20207 votes

After reading this I went to look up this Eternals thing. So it's a paywall to know stats that you'd know for free in any other type of game that released stats like this to players. Sounds greedy, and that's why people are hating on it. That's literally all there is, so I don't know why you're asking WHY people are hating on it, it's obviously that they're trying to get money out of something so basic as stats that normal game companies that do let players see their stats do for free. It's even a worse cash grab attempt than battle passes.

I'm pretty sure NO other game has had people pay for achievements, and some even give in game rewards FOR completing achievements that WERE free. See the problem yet? I mean I've made several achievements on Ark that I haven't paid for, and gotten plenty of in game skins that are given to me every time I die for dinosaurs, helmets, outfits, saddles, hair cuts, etc.

TrulyBlandFeb 24, 20201 votes

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I'm pretty sure NO other game has had people pay for achievements

I mean… There are some games which give out achievements for paid stuff along the lines of "Acquired ", which is kinda cheap… but I was willing to accept that people who support a game might deserve some exclusive achievements.

What Riot is doing, on the other hand, is a new low in this regard, and I desperately hope this doesn't catch on.

Kinda happy all of this started coming to my attention just while I was pondering whether I want to invest some more money into RP.

JustA kleoFeb 21, 20203 votes

knowing your stats is fine. but just the way the video starts holy shit "for years you've been doing cool stuff in league" shows vayne top stunning someone into a wall with her e. really? thats the "coolest" thing you picked? and now you want me to pay so i can show off how many times i hit my e into a wall? IM SO COOL WITH THAT!

Camen FoxFeb 21, 20201 votes

You know more than just Vayne exists as a champion? And for all we know the thing could be "Congrats on stopping someone's dash with you're stun".

JustA kleoFeb 21, 20202 votes

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You know more than just Vayne exists as a champion? And for all we know the thing could be "Congrats on stopping someone's dash with you're stun".

yeah true the 2nd clip is akali killing someone with her r.

sorry but their first presentation of EAternal$ was totally shit and after months of "reworking it" (or more like doing nothing) THIS is the best thing they can do to sell this shit to us

Camen FoxFeb 21, 20201 votes

What is there to do? Honestly I care more about the kills stats and what-not, The other things are an extra bonus that I can work to get if I want them. Should each champion have 50+ different challenges on them. "Garen landing silence then R" I'm sure their ideas would go to the bottom of shit piles after a few. Not all champions are crazy hard to play with mechanics that are through the roof. Eternals are just a little bit of fun for you to try to do. If you truly hate that you work a little to get them then just don't get them, they don't have to be something that everyone HAS to get. But if you say so, then everyone should just get all champions from the very beginning, not work towards getting them, because Riot games is leeching my money because I want to play the game.

JustA kleoFeb 21, 20204 votes

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What is there to do? Honestly I care more about the kills stats and what-not, The other things are an extra bonus that I can work to get if I want them. Should each champion have 50+ different challenges on them. "Garen landing silence then R" I'm sure their ideas would go to the bottom of shit piles after a few. Not all champions are crazy hard to play with mechanics that are through the roof. Eternals are just a little bit of fun for you to try to do. If you truly hate that you work a little to get them then just don't get them, they don't have to be something that everyone HAS to get. But if you say so, then everyone should just get all champions from the very beginning, not work towards getting them, because Riot games is leeching my money because I want to play the game.

you wanted an answer why ppl are mad about riot locking achievements behind a paywall and i gave you the reasons. poor presentation cashgrab for something thats free ANYWHERE ELSE going the EA way.

Camen FoxFeb 21, 20201 votes

It's something you can work for to get, I see no issue in it. It's literally just the same as grinding a champion for M7 emote.

JustA kleoFeb 21, 20203 votes

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It's something you can work for to get, I see no issue in it. It's literally just the same as grinding a champion for M7 emote.

i can only talk about me and my friends so: not a single one of us plays a champ to get m7 with it. we play a champ cause we like it, or we're good at it or in ranked because the champ is strong. i couldnt care less if i have mastery level 0 or 999.

and i couldnt care less if (random made up example) my wukong w did more than 1k damage to enemys this game for 50 games in a row (bet this is another eaternal that exists)

Kei143Feb 21, 20201 votes

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yeah true the 2nd clip is akali killing someone with her r.

That was actually Akali getting 2 kills out of 1 ult. Hence the Eternal Tag "perfect execution". It takes a bit of skill to line up 2 enemies into lethal health and have them be perfectly align in the same line of fire.

The Vayne one was Vayne displacing Camile's hook shot and counter stunning her back for a kill. There's some skill expression there too.

The tracking of the basic stats are one thing, the tracking of the complexed stats that show alot of skill expressions are another thing. Stunning the enemy into the wall as Vayne is easy, anyone can do that. Stunning the enemy into the wall while they are using a dash is much more complexed and I would like to know those complexed stats that show my mastery of my champion.

fatherdariusFeb 21, 20202 votes

=shrug=

Some people like achievements. I don't... the only game I can think of where I've ever looked at my achievements was Minecraft. But other people do (or they wouldn't be a thing). If poeple want it that's up to them. Good for them for find a different way to enjoy the game.

Me, I'll just continue to play and enjoy league with the family as I always have.

FURRY V2Feb 21, 20202 votes

And how will you show it off when we just simply disable eternals on release date? Cuz I can assure you, everyone, who all hate rito for their stupid eternal idea will disable it and no one will see your e-peen, ever. Except other e-peen fighters, of course.

NF RemiliaFeb 21, 20202 votes

People like achievements but not to pay for them. I personally will disable them at the release and you will spend your money for nothing.

HideSideFeb 21, 20202 votes

One of the Reasons Is that you have to pay for it which Is greedy as fk.

AžaželFeb 24, 20202 votes

Paying for goddamn achievements. That's all there is to it. No other game in existence has made it to where you need to pay for achievements. While tracking stats does take resources it should just be a cost of doing business in gaming, to show players their stats.

G0blinSlay3rFeb 21, 20201 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJdrsM5lvuw

Tele IIFeb 21, 20201 votes

Lol idek what eternals are. It doesnt affect me. Sounds like a dumb thing to hate on, when you could be like me, enjoy league, and not even know it exists. Like, its not being forced on me at all, so whats to hate? I do love stats though, so perhaps I will look into it. Ill probably pass on it though if you gotta pay.

duckmaniaFeb 21, 20201 votes

You forgot the /s

Kei143Feb 21, 20201 votes

After reading some of the replies. I think people are just all up in arms about needing to pay for the simple stats.

I would pay for complexed stat tracking like Lee Sin's bicycle kick + knocking up other enemies within the kick back path, but probably not just how many bicycle kicks I landed.

There are probably 3 tiers of stats, the super easy which any pleb can achieve, the moderate which people can achieve with a bit of practice, and the super skill expressive ones where you have to be damn good at your champ to achieve, and it'snot achievable in every game. I'd pay for the skill expressive ones, but looking through the Eternal lists, I can see why people are unhappy, cos alot of the stuff they opted to track are easy stats.

Like .. why do I need to pay to track a 2 man knock up with my Zyra ult, my total plant dmg, and a long range root (fine, theres SOME skill expression there. More than the other two for sure). Any pleb can get those Eternals easily. Give me a tracking of how many skill shots I blocked with my plants, engages denied with maybe 3 man ult knock ups, multi-man roots, enemies revealed through my seeds or stuff that shows my true mastery more.

AcquilaMar 5, 20201 votes

In the old client back in the good ol' days of season 1 or 2 or whatever, there was a tab for "achievements" that were to be added. took them almost 10 years and now they cost money.