Recently banned and I know that a few days ago, I started talking shit to some intentional feeders in my ranked game and I'd like to know if that was the reason why. And if that is the reason, I don't see how shit talking trolls isn't justified.
phirestarter1 votesI know that this has got to be some fake Riot account, because I know for a fact that Riot doesn't do shit to toxic trolls like you.
...but let's play along.
When you "talk shit" to a "feeder" it usually affects gameplay.
Perhaps you should ask yourself what is more important to you:
A. Win Games B. "Talk Shit" and demotivate your team
If it's B, then you really shouldn't have an account or be playing in ranked.
LittlefingerPvP1 votesI'm not really sure what you're trying to say with your first sentence, so I'll just skip that.
I probably should have mentioned that I did my best to mediate the game for the two players that griefed the match (they were arguing with each other before they started to "troll" and "feed"). It wasn't until the post game lobby that I really lost my cool. So I don't know.
A. I do want to win games.
and B. If you don't think intentional feeders demotivate the team or cause frustration then I don't know what to tell you. Because it's the absolute worst feeling when you and your duo partner are having a great game but then one or two players have to ruin it for others.
I won't lie and say I'm not "toxic", god I hate that word, but honestly, I do my best not to take it out on others. But when you're blatantly trying to ruin my game or my day, fuck you. I'm not going to let it slide. Sorry.
Not only did I get banned for 14 days, I also received a rank restriction (which I have never received). But the two that were also being "toxic" and ruining my game continue to play ranked games (based on their recent history). I don't think it's fair.
phirestarter1 votes(again, just playing along here, since I believe this is just Riot trollin...)
Dude, you need to take a step back and try to understand what's happening. Human Psychology.
Are you going to be a leader who inspires? Or just some crazy homeless guy yelling at people on the Street.
You need to try to understand why they are feeding.
Are they frustrated against a champ they don't know how to handle?
Perhaps they are in "autopilot" mode and don't realize they are feeding.
Etc....
None of these reasons are solved by you raging, instead try talking them through it and offer suggestions.
Perhaps you need to take action:
Perhaps you should help.
Perhaps you could switch lanes.
LittlefingerPvP1 votesSo I'm gonna just go out on a limb here and say you have absolutely zero clue what you're talking about.
Neither of those two reasons were the reason why they were feeding. The two of them were shit talking one another and I failed to mediate the situation. They proceeded to troll the rest of the game (and I'm not sure, walking into their team, blitzcrank split push, 1v5 j4 ulting their team - those all seem like things that they realize they are doing). We had an enormous lead 20 minutes into the game, and simply started to throw the game. The two of them started to lash out on one another and then after the game I lost my shit on them. I explained that. But you ignored that.
I did try to help, they didn't listen.
Switching lanes wouldn't have done anything to help. All of our lanes won.
I appreciate your response, but the repercussions are unjustified.
phirestarter1 votesDid you use the 'N' word?
LittlefingerPvP1 votesNope. Racism isn't cool.
phirestarter1 votesThat's pretty f-d up then.
That's the problem with mob justice like the tribunal, you revert to the fickle whims of the dumb masses.
insaiyanbacca1 votesisnt the tribunal down or something?
LittlefingerPvP1 votesOh well. It is what it is. Ultimately, I've accepted that I should not have said anything, but sometimes I let my emotions get the best of me.
Jubbinaut1 votesYou have a couple options. Riot doesn't usually respond with logs here, but if you submit a Support ticket, they'll get back to you with them. Lyte has also been posting some on Reddit, so you may try there.
But it is true that toxic behavior is not justified by other toxic behavior. So shit-talking anyone - troll or not - is not considered acceptable.
LittlefingerPvP1 votesThank you.
But yeah, fair enough. It just sucks you know? They ruin my day, and I can't help but feel helpless and frustrated. Hell, now I'm even more upset since I received a chat restriction, rank restriction, and now a 14 day ban a day later. Someone else ruins the game for me, yet I face their consequences for them. Riot just enables this behaviour. And I think the worst part about all of this, is that if you ask the other team to report them for griefing or trolling, they won't do it. I asked the other team to and they just said that they weren't. Pretty sad community to be honest.
Thanks for your response. I'll submit a ticket. Reddit is bad news lol. I'll get flamed to shit.
Jubbinaut1 votesBut yeah, fair enough. It just sucks you know? They ruin my day, and I can't help but feel helpless and frustrated. Hell, now I'm even more upset since I received a chat restriction, rank restriction, and now a 14 day ban a day later. Someone else ruins the game for me, yet I face their consequences for them. Riot just enables this behaviour. And I think the worst part about all of this, is that if you ask the other team to report them for griefing or trolling, they won't do it. I asked the other team to and they just said that they weren't. Pretty sad community to be honest.
The upside, though, is that you don't need other people to report. The system is designed so that it builds cases based entirely on the number of reported games - it doesn't check how many reports each game has. So for the purpose of case-building (i.e. getting to where someone looks into it) 1 report is just as effective as 9.
As for the rest, it is pretty frustrating. There's not a lot you can specifically do about griefers and trolls in their various types beyond reporting them (and definitely report them). The best advice I can offer on it is try to change the way you look at the match - it's a lot harder to sustain those harsh reactions if you change your goals from just winning the match.
Thanks for your response. I'll submit a ticket. Reddit is bad news lol. I'll get flamed to shit.
That's very possible. There's a whole subreddit dedicated to Lyte's responses to issues like this - though I've seen them be pretty sympathetic, too, depending on the way the poster apporaches the situation.