What is and is not considered report worthy behavior?

BlackHorizon38··1 votes·895 views

So, I'm just curious how many of you lol players use the report button and for what reasons. I'm not asking what you think is bad lol behavior. I'm asking what you would report someone for. Recently this current was banned for game-play for 2 weeks based on a verbal harassment ban that I had received. the game where I received it, i was the support, and was blamed for allowing Lucian to become fed because a Katarina had auto-locked mid and refused to help me bottom. Well those two and the team reported me I suppose. That ban has taught me to be less serious about the game and to just try to play my own game and have fun. So I started a new account, a 'smurf' account per se. so that I could play with the mind set of no toxicity, no name calling, no pressuring, just all positivity. I can honestly say that I have been extremely positive compared to how i used to be (I've been playing for 2 years) especially with this new account. On this new account today when i logged on, i had received a 12 game chat restriction. I am so confused as to why.

With that being said, i was curious if maybe some of the behaviors that i consider fine may not be considered alright by others.

I tend to type a-lot. Not in a mean flaming way, but i may explain an idea about the game, a stragety that i think we could use, the next teamfight target. when we might wanna dragon...In my opinion this is not report worthy behavior but I think i have received legitimate reports because of it, causing my innocent profile to be reprimanded...(this style of this text is something similar to what i may type in game just...in a smaller version that would fit the chat box...)

I also mention during each of my games with my 'smurf' account that i am not a newbie to the game, and anyone who is new and would like some help with questions are welcome to ask me. I have been threatened with a report for being a "smurf". ....what?... I'm not a smurf because i cant handle my own rank...I'm a smurf because rito took away my privilege to play because of Derps who report innocent accounts like said person. This concept of a "smurf" is honestly ridiculous...It doesn't matter how many years of experience i have over the average noob. I still have the same runes/masteries and skill damage as them...the only advantage I may have is the ability to hit better skill shots. So please, If you're a noob, dont report the smurfs, you can beat them too.

The only time i report someone is if they are being ignorant and harassing others, afk, or just...plain...needs to go back to playing bots, doesnt understand what they are doing etc...I will only report a person if they make the experience almost unbearable for me to sit through... and you guys should follow suit. the league community misuses its tribunal system in crying like a baby whenever someone retaliates and tells them to shut the fuck up. or to "stop being a baby". that is not flagrant, unbarable behavior. an afk who ruins the game is unbearable. someone who wont stop typing in the chat trying to instigating a fight with the next one is unbearable. a player who afk's till lvl 6 claiming they were watching porn and to give them 5 minutes (YES THAT HAS HAPPENED TO ME A COUPLE GAMES AGO I WISH I WOULDVE SCREEN SHOTTED IT FOR YALL)

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Auroramancer1 votes

TL;DR: -Don't bring up the "skill" of your teammates ("you're not very good", "you're really bad"). Me being Diamond in Solo Queue, I like to take a break from Ranked, and I'll goof off on a champion I don't play often, and in a role that I don't main. I never do poorly, but when I'm not playing my best, and I do something that a toxic player doesn't approve of, they'll often say "how much did you buy your account for" or "wow Diamond is that easy to get to, how the fuck am I not there yet cuz you're really bad". That's a guaranteed report right there. Instead, say things that are neutral, like "I need you to help me", "I'm counting on you to do this", "We need you to start doing this so we can get ahead of the enemy", and actually seek to cooperate with teammates instead of insulting them to make yourself feel vindicated.

-Don't comment about bad things when a different course of action wouldn't have changed it. Instead, suggest meaningful plans/actions.

-Address what is happening in game, not the player. Say things like "can you back up so we can team fight together" instead of "stop overextending like a bronzie" followed by spamming '?' pings on your teammate.

-Talk/discuss with your teammates without dismissing what they are saying. If they are bringing up a point, saying "lol", "lmao", "you're so stupid", is the easiest way to earn a report, because it's not addressing what they said, it's just being a complete asshole without backing up what you think. Actually talk out the points in chat, and make it meaningful. Some players do that, but also toss in some negativity. Avoid saying "we would have won if you weren't dicking around split pushing all game"; instead, say "we will win team fights, please group up". Avoid saying "you are completely useless"; instead, say "we need you to start doing this, because our team comp is better when that happens".

-The most common reports I put out are when players say things that are ad-hominem (attacking the person's character in order to discredit them), use superlatives to insult ("you are NEVER grouped", "you are ALWAYS dead", etc.), and don't own up to their mistakes ("why did you overextend?" "lmao shut the fuck up we aren't going to win anyway so why does it matter")

Some contextual situations for when I put out reports:

I play a lot of Treeline, and I duo with a friend. Game is going well, I am playing Master Yi in the jungle, my friend is playing Ashe, and our random is playing Singed. We're all doing well, mid-game we are all about 4/1 or 4/2, we have tower advantage, my friend and I have killed Vilemaw twice. The Singed dies in a 1v3 and says "you guys suck". Wtf? We ask "how" and "why do you say that". He starts complaining that "Ashe is only pushing towers" and "Yi only comes in to clean up kills after I am dead". While my friend and I are explaining to him "that is exactly how our team comp works, and we are winning the game by doing that", he sprinkles "you two are bad", "stop waiting until I'm dead to do something", "suck each other's dicks harder" in chat. He kept raging about this, even though we were winning the game by a landslide. The enemy team only got 1 tower over us, and I think the end scores between the teams was 15+ to 4, our advantage. We reported Singed for verbal abuse because he was berating us when he was making poor choices in positioning and we were winning the game hard.

Had another game where I was duo'ing with my friend again, I was playing Nautilus in the jungle, and our random was an Ekko. There were times when the enemy team would 3-man-invade my jungle, my friend would come to respond, and we'd both make it out alive (nobody on either side died). Our Ekko is completely oblivious to this, so he is still out in lane. The enemy team comes out of the jungle and catches him, he dies, he sees my friend and I in spawn, and says "wow you two suck, how come you aren't helping". We explain to him what happened, and he says "lol, such bronzies". Later in the game, enemy team would again, invade my jungle, force my friend and I back to heal. The enemy team would then 3-man siege a tower. Our Ekko stays under the tower, spam pings it 7 times, gets tower dove and dies, then says "wtf noobs DEFEND THE TOWER". I explain to him that "we did not force you to stay under the tower, you could have left" and he retaliates with "you two are such trolls I am done with this game". He then says in all chat "Report my Nautilus such a troll". My score at that time was 4/0/10~, Ekko was 5/4/6~. He says in team-chat "don't worry I will carry this game". We ended up reporting him for verbally abusing us in chat for his own mistakes.

Another game, I'm playing solo. I am Tristana in a solo lane, my teammates are Ekko in a solo lane, and Jarvan in the jungle. The enemy team is Hecarim (jungle), Lissandra, and Teemo (my lane opponent). I have a decent early game against Teemo, but at a certain point, Teemo gets a lot of AP and is able to reduce my hp to 30% with just his Blinding Dart and two auto attacks. He also has Ignite. Needless to say, I can only farm for a bit and then recall to heal up so that I don't feed Teemo gold. So, the times that I go back to spawn to heal, Ekko and Jarvan get in fights with the enemy Lissandra and Hecarim, and lose the 2v2s. They look for where I am on the map, and see that I'm in spawn healing up. Both of them start saying things like "Tristana you are completely useless", "Trist why are you in spawn at full HP", "Trist, why are you shopping when a fight is happening". I have no problem with the last 2 phrases. Problem was, they kept spamming "Missing" pings on me in spawn whenever I went back. When I explained to them "I was too low to help out, I'd just die", Jarvan would say "no you are just lying you piece of shit" and Ekko would say "no Trist you are wrong, stop talking". Then full-on 3v3 team fights would happen....

...as a squishy ADC, I can't get close to any of the enemy team at the start of the fight (Hecarim, who has Trinity Force and a terrify ultimate; Lissandra, who can focus 2.5 second stun/snare combo onto me; Teemo, who can blind my auto attacks for 2 seconds). That being said, I have to skirt the edge of the fight to make sure I won't be focused, so that I can consistently put out good damage. Jarvan would go out and do his job, but I'm not able to finish the fight because Hecarim would save his ultimate for me. Lissandra and Teemo would kill my Ekko. When the fight is over, Jarvan would say "Trist you're not helping at all" and Ekko would say "why is Trist never in team fights". Jarvan starts arguing with me about using my Buster Shot to keep Hecarim off of me, even though Hecarim is CC-immune during his ult dash. Jarvan then starts saying "you're reported", Ekko says "stfu Trist, you're wrong, stop". They continue to spam ping "Missing" pings on me when I'm in spawn healing, they argue with me in chat about how much HP I have when I first enter spawn, they call me a troll for going back to spawn to heal and shop, Jarvan says "We will see the end-game stats. If you haven't dealt enough damage, you are reported". It's abundantly clear what I reported both of them for.

BlackHorizon382 votes

Wow, thanks so much for your comment. On this account which is currently banned i did deserve to be banned. I admit. I would call players stupid and the like for making mistakes and it took me 2 years to be banned for 2 weeks. I wasnt always this way and always tried to have a good game but only when something would go completely wrong. I have made a new account and on that account I am trying to be as positive as possible. There was one game I can recall where our adc, a sivir, didnt go in with us as a team, I understand staying away from damage but, she hadnt taken any damage at all and hadnt done any damage either. she had been trying to q over the jungle wall to mid lane. I began to type into the chat that sivir had made a dumb mistake. however, I stopped myself, backspaced. and asked her to please, in the next team fight, stay with the team instead...I cant remember if she threatened to report but...I think she may have for my suggestions...IM TRYING TO HELP THE NOOBS BUT THEY DONT APPRECIATE ME WAHHHH. Even with these changes i just received a 12 game chat restriction. I really am trying to change and I seriously feel like Im not earning my consequenses...and me being a chick...its hard for me to just not say anything at all. I dont bring up the skill of my teammates because I dont want them to retaliate (because im not the best player myself) and if i do bring up a players skill, I ask them how new they are, and offer to help them. especially on my new account... is that offensive to some? I really am just trying to be helpful because I want to do well too...its just frustrating when youve changed how you react but riots still out to get you. lol. I havent recieved any kind of ban for 2 years....and all of a sudden i recieve 2 banns on 2 seperate accounts. I'm 19, I wouldnt be crying here If i really was still toxic and an asshole. I know what is right and what isnt now. just, ugh. lol.

Auroramancer1 votes

Same thing for me, I got my first ban after 4 years of playing. My toxicity wasn't from lashing out at others, it was when others would harass me but I would respond to the harassment poorly, and I'd spend so much time defending myself in chat, that I ruined the game for the non-toxic players, so they would report me as well.

Usually what I do now to cope with toxicity: -If I really wanna say something bad or insulting, I'll type it out and then hit 'Esc' to get rid of it and close out the chat.

-If I want to respond, but don't have anything bad to say, I'll say something neutral ("Lol Lordnewb you're so bad", I'll reply "how am I bad" instead of "stfu man you're worse than me")

-When a teammate messes up and I'm confused about what they did, instead of saying "dude you're bad" or "why the fuck would you do that", I'll say "what happened there man". Usually they'll respond "I just messed up my flash" or "I thought the enemy ult's cooldown was longer". Then I'll say "Ah alright, let's fix that next time we do something" or "haha yeah that cooldown is actually pretty short, caught me off guard too". They may say "Sorry about that", and I just say "it's okay, we're still doing well".

There's just ways to "satisfy" your need to know what happened, why your teammates are doing certain things, or how some things are going, without making your teammates feel bad. That's ultimately what it's about. If you can phrase things to not make other people feel bad, while at the same time satisfying what your mind wants or is trying to do, then you can avoid many reports.

BlackHorizon381 votes

Yeah, I agree and I am going to try to follow the same behavior, It wont be hard; I'm not a huge flamer but these tips will help me a lot.

Is there any way that I could advertise my post or your comments? I feel like they're seriously helpful and maybe if other players read it they may change too, before they're banned themselves. It sucks when you play league 24/7 and all of a sudden you're cut off.

And I feel like new players really don't understand the tribunal system as well. I have my own definition of what can and can't be said over chat, its redefined now.

How do you feel about cursing over chat? even if its filtered? I don't mean excessive cursing just because or cursing AT other players. Cursing at or about another player isn't right, I used to do it but now I understand that when it's done to me I don't appreciate it so I shouldn't do it to others. but occasionally when i die, ill type shit, or fuck, or damn it. Not repeatedly but it may happen 4-5 times a game. Its almost habitual and its just me cursing at myself...I kinda type what I actually say while I'm playing sometimes. Do you find this wrong and should I really strive to break this habit?

To add to the cursing subject, Where is the line between verbal abuse and verbal harassment? Verbal harassment is obvious, however I feel like my cursing at myself may be seen by other players as a form of harassment? or verbal abuse...? (I'm trying to make sense of my chat restriction, lol)

Do you think that it is a good idea to intervene in a toxic players rampage? If one player is harassing another, I like to try to calm the two of them down. Sometimes it works, sometimes the flamer turns on me. Say the flamer turns on me. Is it better to blatantly tell him, 'I'm sorry, I'm reporting you for toxic behavior, you've been flaming so and so for dadada and now you're flaming me etc.' or should I just mute and report him?

In saying that i'm going to report him its my last attempt to get him to stop. Is this ever a good idea though? Can this been seen as a form of retaliation towards him and as negative or is my saying that I'm going to report okay? like i said, i have a hard time just muting and reporting because I want players to understand what they're doing that is wrong.

Another good example where I can think of times I may get frustrated is when I have died maybe 2 or 3 times early game (I main mid, to give you a picture) and am falling behind. I might just type the junglers name. Or I might ping assistance over my lane RIGHT after I've died the next time. I've found from experience that simply saying the jungler's name is no good. Because It almost implys that I'm blaming them for my mistake (which i never TRY to do, I died, its on me, I control what my champ does). at least...that is how players have called it on me multiple times...possibly leading to them reporting me. So with this I'm saying...

What is the best way to tell your team mates "hey, I'm feeding over here, I need a serious come back, can someone help me?" Without making them upset about having to pick up your slack.

Also. What do you do if a player is threatening to report you over something unjust? How do you retaliate? I don't want to report them back for just saying they're going to report me for 'being a smurf' or 'being bossy' (i've been accused of this when i try to help...I should use more suggestion words...like perhaps and maybe you should tryy...etc.) But at the same time, I don't want to keep racking up unnecessary reports.

RITO NEEDS A BETTER SYSTEM UGH.

Auroramancer1 votes

-I'd usually stay away from saying "damn" or "shit" after I die. Instead, I'll say "wow I fucked that up", or if someone on my team says "you shouldn't have done that", I'll openly admit "yeah, i agree". Like, saying "damn/shit" in chat isn't negative, but it's not doing anything for your teammates when they read it. Saying "i fucked up, sorry guys" shows them that you are agreeable and open to admitting your mistakes, which is a nice change of pace given toxic players they may have encountered in the past

-Sometimes I'll joke around with my teammates with vulgarity. "haha wow that fight was such bullshit for us" "DAYUM we are fucking them over good" or "holy shit man that was a good play". I'll throw in blatantly obvious sarcasm to make my teammates laugh, like "UHM, UROGT IS A STRONG INDEPENDENT NOXIAN WHO DONT NEED NO DEMACIAN, ASSHOLE!", and lol's are had in chat. Stuff like that is okay.

-If you are cursing at yourself in chat a lot, I don't think it'd be negative unless someone says "can you please stop spamming chat with that" and you keep doing it.

-What I do when a toxic player is rampaging: I'll defend the victim. I won't say to the attacker "yo fuck off man, they aren't doing anything wrong". Instead, I'll say to the victim "hey, I think you're doing just fine, don't listen to them". I don't address the attacker, except to say "cut it out dude, they are doing fine". I just prefer to counter the toxicity with truthful, honest positivity (don't lie about it) to the victim so that they aren't demoralized. And I'll make more efforts to recognize the good things they are doing, just to offset the toxicity.

-Don't tell someone that they are reported. It's generally seen as a negative thing to say, and it just agitates the toxic player.

-Sometimes I mute toxic players, sometimes I don't. For those that aren't extremely toxic, I don't mute them so that I can see if they will say anything useful or turn their attitude around in game. If someone is so toxic that it's making me visibly upset, I mute them.

-I play jungle often. Having teammates spam "Help" ping or spam ping their tower right after they died, is incredibly annoying to me and makes me think that person is very liable to rage at me. What I would suggest, and is what i do when I'm failing as a laner, is say "I need some help here, I'm not doing too hot". My jungler may say "coming", but it's the wrong time to come, so then I'll say "hold on, wait for when they push toward my tower here". Stuff like that. And if you're doing poorly in the early game and someone starts raging at you, just own up to the mistakes you made; that helps fizzle out the player's anger. If that doesn't help, then they are just stupidly toxic and ought to be muted.

-Don't try to rehabilitate toxic players in game. If you are going to spend the time explaining to someone that what they are doing is wrong, spend that time in the end-game lobby after the game is done, and make sure to emphasize phrases like "man, you can't just be raging at someone like that" in order to minimize reports from the enemy team, so they don't think you've been raging the whole game.

-If someone threatens to report you ("report <champion>" or "I'm reporting you"), sometimes I say "for what" or "why". Sometimes they say "for unskilled" and I'll say "I don't give a shit haha". If anything else, I'll say "i haven't done anything wrong here" (if I truly haven't done anything wrong). Save your in-depth suggestions and things for after the game is over; in-game, keep it short, like "yeah just hug your tower until we get there" or "wait until our tank engages before going in".

EL HAMSTERO1 votes

just heard dancing, laughing, and taunting are reportable behavior. which leads me to wonder why riot put them in the game.

Americium1 votes

You could be reported for anything, BUT will any of it stick if you're well behaved? I have done the tribunal thing and seen some reports on players that clearly have done nothing.

For example, a player that repeated "ez" many times in the conclusion of one very close dominion match, wasn't too happy in the following match up when his team lost by over 200 and I said "ez"; his only reply was "reported".

Sometimes people try to abuse the report function, but if you're consistently respectful it does not matter.

BlackHorizon381 votes

But that is what rito needs to fix...the fact that we can report whoever for whatever. and that those reports will stack up just like the ones we may deserve. lets face it, we all need a good reporting once in a while. But I just played a game where a noob twitch overextended lvl 1 into the second bush at bot lane, died by their adc and their mid because they were roaming around bot lane, and blamed his support nasus (and yelled at me for not pinging missing mid....at lvl 1...50 sec in...) for staying by the tower and 'not helping'. These acts are just sad but it happens everyday. i had a chat ban so all i could say was 'nas, youre doin fine dont listen to him. Twitch was talking about how' i heard rito had a bad community' and 'is this being toxic' etc. he was berating nasus early game and deserved a report from all of us but he thought he was in the ever right because nasus had 0 Q stacks. I disagree with your last statement. If you play 5 games, and you have toxic trolls in 3 of those 5 games who are being douchers and decided to say, report you for defending the feeder. you could have 6+ unnecessary reports on your record. and for what? riot needs to change our tribunal maybe make players have to EARN the right to report others by receiving honors or other marks of positive credible behavior...maybe make only 1 player (team captain) able to report so that maybe the team can come to an agreement on what was and was not tolerable about their game....etc. I really would like to see a change because the tribunal obviously isnt working in itself. I know many people who dont play league simply because the people are so toxic.

BlackHorizon381 votes

dancing. laughing and taunting are NOT reportable. I admit i hate it when i have an enemy who likes to sit in front of my tower and laugh at me but its not reportable. its not negative behavior. Gnar literally goes Nah nah nah boo boo. like hes taunting the enemy to 'come get him'. its in the game. its there for some fun. you gotta realize that. laughing and literally taunting with words in chat is reportable but not with your champion. no. just another instance where someone was reported for an unjust cause.

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