There is a fine line between meta breaking and trolling.

Xx420n0sc0p3sxX··2 votes·340 views

If you pick Malz support, I'm cool with that, it's meta breaking, nothing too crazy. If you pick tryn support, thats trolling. Having fun is fine, and so is meta breaking, but please please when you do "break the meta" have a good reason for it. Ashe support, while not great, offers utility tools and can help the team. If you pick Master yi support because "Im just breaking the meta calm down lol", you're picking something that just doesn't work. He has no utility for his teamates, hes a farm based hypercarry put into a role for champs that have lots of utility and/or high base damage

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Wolfram Oxford1 votes

AP Nasus support, thoughts.

Xx420n0sc0p3sxX1 votes

I feel with AP Nasus support, despite how his q work, offers some valuable help for your adc. If you guy a relic shield, you can stack q a bit (Not sure if you would want the ap gold income item instead). You have good poke that shreds armor, and whither is a crazy cc ability that will make it so the enemy adc cant do much. Ult gives AD plus a decent dot around you.

Something like that I wouldn't mind. I would mind if you took Katarina support

Pikmints1 votes

Because of his mana costs you'd absolutely not want to rely on Spellthief's for gold, Relic Shield being great since that would let you support your teammate via healing while you stack. AP lets you be a factor when you can't get in melee range which is even more important since you have no hard cc and sub-par engage.

You will be able to get rid of your Relic Shield once the game gets late enough, but outside of your gold item, boots (buy your pair of choice based on the situation), and sightstone, you have a couple of options for your last 3 items (4 post selling gold item).

Option 1: Liandry's, Rylai's, Lich Bane (, Luden's). This lets you E and R damage deal fair damage against all opponents and makes your E and R AoE slows. Lich Bane doubles down on the damage from your stacks and let's you get some mana to help for those crucial late game fights. (Luden's adds to burst, increases the damage of Lich Bane, and gives you mobility to manage battles with more options)

Option 2: Zhonya's, Luden's, Rabbadon's (, Lich Bane). This simply lets you burst people down with as much AP as someone with a sightstone can get.

Option 3: Rod of Ages, Abyssal Scepter, Zhonya's (, Lich Bane). Grants you more mana than the other options to let you spam with more freedom and grants you more defensive stats than the other options. You may have a tough time getting the RoA stacks if you get it too late, but this would let you be useful longer in fights and use your abilities more in fights if you can pull it off.

All of this said, I'd still prefer a tank Nasus support since he'd synergize better with Relic Shield and Sightstone while transitioning to the same late-game role that standard Nasus top has. You'd basically be sacrificing your laning phase unless jungle pressure swings heavily in your favor, but this would be the most consistent form of Nasus support and the one that would take the least amount of time to get good use out of.

Wolfram Oxford1 votes

Get Rylais, I did ap nasus sup in my s1 promos lol, I was going to go top but another team mate locked in after I picked nasus...so I went sup

Kirin1 votes

Tryn support could let you win trades with his w though

Xx420n0sc0p3sxX1 votes

Compared to, lets say a morgana, who not only has some decent damage even with 0 damage items, also has black shield for cc, a 3 second snare, and an aoe stun.

Or Thresh, who has loads of cc, alright damage early game, and a shield.

You have minuscule cc/utility/atleast base damage.

Pikmints1 votes

There will be supports that are much better than others like Thresh being a better support than Tryndamere, but most champions have something to offer if forced into the position. The two champs with blinds could block the adc's damage for a couple of seconds, Urgot can shred opponents armor while reducing the damage they deal and be tanky, J4 can knockup enemies while shredding armor and granting attack speed, Riven can force engages and use her shield + mobility to take little damage while dishing it out, and so on. Some are clearly more optimal and less situational than others, but it can work.

So long as someone's playing in a way like they're trying to win, they're not trolling. They may be doing something incredibly questionable, something that may make little to no sense on paper, and they may even lose with the largest factor being the champion they selected, but trying to lose or intentionally bringing your teammates morale down is trolling.

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