If more staff instead of robots worked in the player behavior dept

tonzillacrayon··3 votes·683 views

if you fire lyte and get more people in there the game would be less hell. Im getting players raging and rage quitting in normal games and champ select in normals of all things and these are anywhere from plat 4 to diamond 2 players.. Just have a vote button if the player should be banned during champ select if all 4 players agree a riot member comes in looks at chat/pick order and if the player is toxic trying to troll lobby because he doesn't get his way then boom perma banned later nerd. Game would be wayyy better especially in ranked where people care more so they do that stuff but people still do this normals so its pretty sad.

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alasarcher2 votes

Why people always blame riot for players behavior? Sometimes i question how people with such low IQ can acttually install game, and actually find boards. There is no way Riot can control ragers,afkers,feeders and trolls. They can punish them after they commit crime, but they cant prevent it. If a guy takes a gun, gets out on the street and shoots 5 people just cuz he felt like it, are u gonna blame government for not preventing it?

MaddestLogic2 votes

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Why people always blame riot for players behavior? Sometimes i question how people with such low IQ can acttually install game, and actually find boards. There is no way Riot can control ragers,afkers,feeders and trolls. They can punish them after they commit crime, but they cant prevent it. If a guy takes a gun, gets out on the street and shoots 5 people just cuz he felt like it, are u gonna blame government for not preventing it?

Know whats funny as fuck tho? Riot will punish players for reacting to feeders/trolls/asshats by banning your ass! LOL

Zebekn2 votes

[{quoted}](name=John Pershing,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=vBcwFEfo,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2015-10-25T19:07:17.680+0000)

Know whats funny as fuck tho? Riot will punish players for reacting to feeders/trolls/asshats by banning your ass! LOL

this^^

alasarcher1 votes

[{quoted}](name=John Pershing,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=vBcwFEfo,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2015-10-25T19:07:17.680+0000)

Know whats funny as fuck tho? Riot will punish players for reacting to feeders/trolls/asshats by banning your ass! LOL

Only proper reaction is reporting them, why would Riot punish you for Reporting someone? When did Riot EVER punish someone for reporting?

MaddestLogic1 votes

My man what I'm saying is, if you get a guy on your team who goes 0-20 and runs around trollin, you give him hell for it, and he reports you, YOU will get banned. Riot dgaf, if they see red-flagged words from your character, bam, banned.

alasarcher1 votes

[{quoted}](name=John Pershing,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=vBcwFEfo,comment-id=0000000000010000,timestamp=2015-10-25T19:18:06.715+0000)

My man what I'm saying is, if you get a guy on your team who goes 0-20 and runs around trollin, you give him hell for it, and he reports you, YOU will get banned. Riot dgaf, if they see red-flagged words from your character, bam, banned.

Why would you "give him hell for it"? Do you think his score will magically turn from 0:20 to 20:0 and he will become Faker incarnate?

MaddestLogic1 votes

Why would I? Say you're 2-2 in promos to gold, and it happens. It's only human to react negatively to shit like that, especially because you KNOW it's intentional, and no matter what you have to sit through 20 minutes of it, THAT'S where the " givin hell " comes in, while neither player is in the right, how can you punish the 1 guy for getting upset and expressing it? He didn't choose to be a salty bastard, he's a victim of circumstance.

alasarcher1 votes

[{quoted}](name=John Pershing,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=vBcwFEfo,comment-id=000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2015-10-25T19:23:20.816+0000)

Why would I? Say you're 2-2 in promos to gold, and it happens. It's only human to react negatively to shit like that, especially because you KNOW it's intentional, and no matter what you have to sit through 20 minutes of it, THAT'S where the " givin hell " comes in, while neither player is in the right, how can you punish the 1 guy for getting upset and expressing it? He didn't choose to be a salty bastard, he's a victim of circumstance.

So best solution against someone who breaks rules is to break rules yourself? Doesnt make much sense, does it? I know how u feel, but trick is in controlling yourself through logic. Think : "What will i accomplish if i start flaming this troll now- he wont stop trolling, but i will risk getting ban myself, is it worth it"

MaddestLogic1 votes

There isn't a solution believe it or not. I didn't say it was ok to break the rules, but why punish a victim of circumstance? And not the guy who caused it? What Riot doesn't do is look to see if the " toxic " behavior was triggered by something else, and that is BS.

alasarcher1 votes

[{quoted}](name=John Pershing,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=vBcwFEfo,comment-id=00000000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-10-25T19:31:13.365+0000)

There isn't a solution believe it or not. I didn't say it was ok to break the rules, but why punish a victim of circumstance? And not the guy who caused it? What Riot doesn't do is look to see if the " toxic " behavior was triggered by something else, and that is BS.

Im sorry, but as soon as you start to flame , you stop being victim. I know in your mind you think u arent doing anything wrong. But u are wrong.

MaddestLogic1 votes

Not true, you're a victim for 20 minutes, I know and have have said that it's wrong to respond to negativity with negativity, but why PUNISH the guy reacting to the troll than the troll himself?

alasarcher1 votes

[{quoted}](name=John Pershing,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=vBcwFEfo,comment-id=0000000000010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-10-25T19:49:00.696+0000)

Not true, you're a victim for 20 minutes, I know and have have said that it's wrong to respond to negativity with negativity, but why PUNISH the guy reacting to the troll than the troll himself?

Because flaming is worse than trolling.

MaddestLogic1 votes

Flaming the guy ruining the game > ruining the game Seems legit

alasarcher1 votes

[{quoted}](name=John Pershing,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=vBcwFEfo,comment-id=000000000001000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-10-25T20:06:10.731+0000)

Flaming the guy ruining the game > ruining the game Seems legit

Ruining game cant harm person, verbal abuse can.

MaddestLogic1 votes

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Ruining game cant harm person, verbal abuse can.

Verbal abuse that the troll expects and lives off of? Rarely do you see players out of nowhere just randomly targeting and flaming people, at least for me.

SmokedAlmonds1 votes

[{quoted}](name=John Pershing,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=vBcwFEfo,comment-id=000000000001000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-10-25T20:06:10.731+0000)

Flaming the guy ruining the game > ruining the game Seems legit

Its not even a matter of whats worse. It is a matter of how much can you improve things with a given amount of resources.

For starters, most trolls are doing it for those reactions. So by responding to them you feed them, if no one ever reacted to trolls many would get bored and move on. You also do nothing to improve the situation by responding to trolls. Everyone is already dealing with the troll, they feel the same about it as you do. But now you start raging and they still have to deal with the troll but also now have to deal with you. People don't want to see you rage anymore than you want to see that troll.

MaddestLogic1 votes

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Its not even a matter of whats worse. It is a matter of how much can you improve things with a given amount of resources.

For starters, most trolls are doing it for those reactions. So by responding to them you feed them, if no one ever reacted to trolls many would get bored and move on. You also do nothing to improve the situation by responding to trolls. Everyone is already dealing with the troll, they feel the same about it as you do. But now you start raging and they still have to deal with the troll but also now have to deal with you. People don't want to see you rage anymore than you want to see that troll.

But I wouldn't be flaming my teammates, only the troll, they wouldn't be upset over me flaming the common enemy, trolls do troll for the reaction, but they also know that they themselves can't be penalized, that's the problem I have. If you have a troll, you can't improve anything, 95% of the time you're gonna lose regardless of how your attitude is

SmokedAlmonds1 votes

[{quoted}](name=John Pershing,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=vBcwFEfo,comment-id=00000000000100000000000000000000000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2015-10-25T20:23:53.845+0000)

But I wouldn't be flaming my teammates, only the troll, they wouldn't be upset over me flaming the common enemy, trolls do troll for the reaction, but they also know that they themselves can't be penalized, that's the problem I have. If you have a troll, you can't improve anything, 95% of the time you're gonna lose regardless of how your attitude is

Something doesn't have to be directed at you to affect you.

Your right there is nothing you can do to improve it. You recognize that there is nothing you can do to improve it, yet choose to try with methods that fuel the fire.

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