Veigar is too powerful past 20-25 minutes?

TheRealAphromoo·May 17, 2017·3 votes·408 views

Does Veigar need a nerf because after 25 minutes he can kill anyone but tanks. Tanks get kills after 45 minutes

8 Comments

GankedByWindowsMay 17, 20172 votes

For how weak he is early game I don't think so unless he gets some ridiculous boost like 3 infernals or a triple kill at level 1 or something, which you shouldn't balance around. He doesn't really have ANY good matchups where he wins. At best you farm it out and go even.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoMay 17, 20172 votes

that is what he is suppose to do... he is a nuke mage...

he has mana cost... a hard to stun with his CC and squisy and has no mobility

JoxcabMay 17, 20172 votes

Not even close. He is perfectly balanced. Weak, even.

I boop thingsMay 17, 20171 votes

Hi, Veigar main here.

No he is actually perfectly fine as it is. Veigar is a stacking champion. One of the most 'efficient' means he stacks is through cs'ing. However during the Mage update he was given the ability to stack off any landed ability on champions. Problem is, all of his kit has long delays except q and ult. Dodging his wall and w combo is one means to prevent him from stacking.

A good veigar should have 200 - 300 stacks by 20-25 minutes off spell casting alone. The only reason he does so much damage is because thats what he's for. He's only strong if you let him stack. Most veigars go full glass cannon, by 20 minutes. Your team shouldn't be letting you get caught by the midget.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoMay 17, 20172 votes

and as veigar main what is some of his biggest weaknesses as a champ?

I boop thingsMay 17, 20171 votes

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and as veigar main what is some of his biggest weaknesses as a champ?

His mobility and overall squishiness. While yes you can build him 'tank'. Even with all the health, resistance items that give him ap. He is still extremely weak to cc and being bursted down. Get a highly mobile adc, mage, assassin on his as and bam he dies quickly. It is all a matter of 'your team' deciding who is the bigger threat overall. Personally I choose to kill adc's over a veigar. Even when fully stacked it takes him so long to land skills. His dps is extremely low as it is. So you need to play around his cd's and know when to kill him.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoMay 17, 20172 votes

the point of my question was to provide some info to the OP on why he isnt OP at 20-25 mins and how his power is conditional to not being blown up and that he has weakness to exploit just like all champs...

alot of people dont consider what they can do to beat a champ all the see is what that champ does to beat them which frustrates them. it is this mindset people need to get into and use the knowledge of that to improve as a player

TheRealAphromooMay 18, 20171 votes

ok fine im a noob then xD