Another classic day in league

tsetberg·Jun 30, 2015·2 votes·633 views

Got stuck on more teams of trash players in ranked. Got harassed after every game... just another day of league. And despite me telling them with visible evidence to back me up why their community is more toxic than Chernobyl, or why talking to them is more painful than riding an elevator with Ray Rice they still think its because of players like me. I guess evidence and proof aren't what matter to riot. Which makes sense... they are not money so why would riot care about them.

18 Comments

ShuffledPancakeJun 30, 20151 votes

But you're toxic too? lel

tsetbergJun 30, 20151 votes

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But you're toxic too? lel

Nah piggy I am honest, intelligent and logical and while that may be toxic in league because they primarily cater to brainless idiots it is not toxic outside of league (Save for other modern games and their communities). You on the other hand are highly toxic. You literally only commented to try and insult me. Classic league player

ShuffledPancakeJun 30, 20151 votes

Ah but i am being truthful logical and honest why cant you understand that? i copy pasted your comment and posted.

tsetbergJun 30, 20152 votes

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Ah but i am being truthful logical and honest why cant you understand that? i copy pasted your comment and posted.

Technically all you did was call me toxic. When all I was doing was being honest. You are not truthful you are doing whats called playing the victim so in your mind your being good and pure and righteous and everyone is out to get you when in reality league is a bad game full of terrible, toxic and brainless players and few people (I only know of me) speak truthfully about it while the rest of the people (You) mindlessly attack those who's opinions differ from what you have been trained to think. Modern gamer's are trained no differently than a dog and they develop like levels of blind loyalty.

MICKxTKYJun 30, 20151 votes

I agree 100%. You get kids who will be toxic saying "you're trash, god I wish I had a team", meanwhile they are 0-10. Then when you call them out for it, first response is "reported". This game and its players give me a headache. Never understood why there aren't more penalties in ranked. If you get a teammate who just feeds then intentionally afk's i don't see why we lose lp. Or when you get an afker from the start of the game.

tsetbergJul 2, 20151 votes

The sad state of the matter is that RIOT only cares about money thats why game communities are so toxic now. You are giving players who have never been successful endless success then telling them its because they are so good and they become so desperate to believe it they lash out against anyone who disagrees with them despite endless amounts of evidence supporting the fact that companies cater to the worthless as long as they have some kind of disposable income. There is and always will be a reason they are called the unskilled masses.

LaowPingJun 30, 20151 votes

You realize the irony of you're reply right? You stereotyped him with "Classic league player" and called him a piggy (who the hell calls people piggys?). You also said that league primarily cater to brainless idiots. Your post seems fairly toxic to me.

tsetbergJun 30, 20151 votes

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You realize the irony of you're reply right? You stereotyped him with "Classic league player" and called him a piggy (who the hell calls people piggys?). You also said that league primarily cater to brainless idiots. Your post seems fairly toxic to me.

And physics seems like magic to people who dont understand it. Again I would ask you how honesty is toxic?

ShuffledPancakeJun 30, 20151 votes

Honesty is toxic the same way destructive criticism is toxic, it is truthful but harassment/offensive.. which it definitely is when you act the way you do, you're so stuck and toxic.

tsetbergJul 2, 20151 votes

It is not harassment. It is not offensive. You choose to be offended by it. I can say the color yellow is offensive... would that make it offensive? No. If I convinced others to say it's offensive would that make it? No. It would merely mean we say it is offensive but truth be told yellow is yellow. Destructive criticism in this case as with most modern games is necessary. You can not have a bunch of unskilled players running around thinking they are good. All that will happen is they will learn they dont need to be good to win. And anything they lose at is wrong and bad. Another way to look at it is simple. If you want me to stop calling you stupid... stop being stupid. I am perfectly capable of calling people good, smart, attractive, nice and honest when those people are. But lying to yourself and trying to get me to lie to you that is what is truly offensive. I will not perpetuate the stereotype that someone who wins at league is good or has any skill because they do not. League and other modern games are built to cater to the unskilled through the investment principle. It gets you to invest time. Grinding runes, levels, champions or buying the equivalent. The most you invest the less likely you are to be able to admit that League is a bad (for the sake of argument) game. It takes no skill to win again for the sake of argument and time (Mechanics are mechanics and skill is skill everyone has mechanics, not everyone has skill so basing a game on mechanics means that anyone who puts time in can be "good" at the game). There are plenty of players in the game even players below me in rank who have incredible mechanics and hand speed that I will never have. But they are still not good they are mechanical.

On a further note their may be players who are good at things outside league but enjoy league so they stick to that. That is fine. I am not saying don't do something you enjoy. I am saying a system of metrics need to be required to prevent players like me from getting stuck with uncarryable players. I had a game today where botlane gave away 34 kills ...

The12thman94Jul 13, 20151 votes

So couldn't Riot choose what they think is toxic or not and you should be fine with it. If you think the way you've been phrasing isn't toxic couldn't Riot deam it as toxic, because as you said you choose to be offended so couldn't Riot logically find what you are saying in game offensive and toxic. In the end it's their decision and choice since they run the game.

tsetbergJul 13, 20151 votes

Literally they can because it is a free country. But legally it is still slander to accuse me of being something I am not especially when it has harmful effects on my life. So when riot deems my behavior as toxic, I am not actually toxic they are just calling me toxic. Endlessly labelling me as toxic over and over. I am still not toxic but riot community refuses to acknowledge that because they want to label me as toxic. One could make a parallel argument, what if someone told you that black people were bad? Would they automatically be bad just because someone said it? In reality no. In league of legends yes.

Self defining words does not make them reality. In RIOT's virtual world my intelligence and logic may be toxic. My honesty may be toxic. But only because riot wants them to be. Only because other players want them to be. They are not toxic outside of league. Well they are right now but eventually they wont be again. I am legally not toxic and RIOT is legally not allowed to label me as toxic or my behavior as toxic. Laws always supersede virtual worlds. It's why the ToS or EULA can't legally bind you to be a slave even if you agree to it.

LaowPingJun 30, 20151 votes

What pancake said. Toxic is simply being mean when you don't have to be. Even if you feel you're in the right, you're toxic.

tsetbergJul 2, 20151 votes

No. Being mean is being mean. Being honest is being honest. Your CHOICE to be offended by what I say is exactly that. It is yours. I am not toxic you are merely offended by what I say. Which would make you ignorant and stupid. Why not learn? Why play the victim? Is that all your good for is being hurt? In which case am I not still correct about you? You have a long ways to go before you can even begin to understand the things I say (which btw are always correct).

LaowPingJul 4, 20151 votes

I want to screenshot this because it is by far the dumbest thing I've ever seen written on these forums. You complain that I made the choice to be offended, yet you are the one who made this post about how toxic this community is. That was your choice. Mean and honest are not independent of each other. You can explain how you feel in an honest way and you'll still be a dick. You wanna talk about playing the victim "Got harassed after every game... just another day of league" that's playing the victim. I didn't think such hypocrisy and ignorance existed on this planet. That's me being both mean and honest.

tsetbergJul 4, 20151 votes

" "Got harassed after every game... just another day of league" that's playing the victim."

No, that is stating a fact. What was upsetting is that players harass me constantly and then riot bans me because I don't spend money on the game and they dont ban the players who spend.

Saying the community is toxic is not me being offended. I am offended that most of the league community is considered human and they are such garbage there is no way both they and I can be human so either they are not or I am something greater than human.

Further honesty is honesty. Being mean is being mean they are totally different. If some trash brags to me about how good it is at a modern game that takes no skill like league of legends, they are being offensive to me how dare they compare themselves who have no skill to someone like me who has actual skill. Use this as the example, Michael Phelps has 18? Gold Medals in the Olympics. What an achievement! I have 8800 achievements on World of Warcraft so am I 8800 times better than Phelps? No. What I did in world of warcraft is merely called an achievement because it helps validate garbage and make it feel like its actually worth something so that garbage then turns around and pours money and time into the game to keep that feeling going. If World of Warcraft sat their and told you "Hey this games designed to just seem hard not to actually be hard and you're actually pretty bad and that's why we have to make it like this :(" players probably wouldn't keep playing. Again there is a reason it is called the unskilled masses and guess what? The unskilled masses have more money to spend on games than skilled players so until that changes games will be made for the unskilled.

The problem with that (because making money is fine) is that the game pumps them with feel good psychology tricks. Which is what directly relates to players being so insanely toxic in game. I am just honest. Garbage stinks. It isn't my fault garbage has been convinced that it smells good. It doesn't. Welcome to reality, i'm sorry you choose to be offended rather than making an improvement in yourself and your life.

These types of games wont last forever. This what we are going through right now. Is what cause the video game crash back in the 80's. But back then people had more pride in who they were and they care about getting good at things and being the best. Now people just want to think they are the best they don't actually care if it is true or not.

LaowPingJul 5, 20151 votes

Don't worry kid, one of these days you'll grow up and break your delusions. One day you'll see the hypocrisy in you comments. One day you'll stop making WOW and Michael Phelps references that have nothing to do with the actual conversation. You practically ooze toxicity.

Also, "how dare they compare themselves who have no skill to someone like me who has actual skill."

.....you're silver. What skill?

tsetbergJul 11, 20151 votes

Classic delusion of the retards that play this game. Rank isn't about skill. Being stuck on teams that are uncarryably bad doesn't make me bad. In fact if the elo system was accurate it would mean that my elo is equal to the combined total of the other team thats how me+0+0+0+0 = their team. So get that out of your head. Only the dumbest of the dumb and the most worthless people on the planet think rank means skill. Especially in a game of no skill. You clearly have nothing in your life that your rank in league of legends is all you have to brag about and its so worthless. Look at me I didn't die taking a breath I must be challenger at breathing. No idiot that's not how it works.

The match maker puts together steamrolls to facilitate faster game-play allowing players to farm more games per day thereby farming more self-esteem from their meaningless wins. Rank is on average a ratio of how able your team was to win. Secondly your play time. Thirdly your mechanics. It never once measures skill because this game takes none and the system would crash or return null every time it tried to measure it. It can craft pseudo feel good skill to represent to players to encourage them that their investment of time is meaningful and they should invest money to add novelty to this thing which they are good at. But it takes no real skill.

The fact that you believe that a game is carryable by a single person shows that the education system and your family failed miserably in giving you an education while raising you. A carry in league of legends takes place when one player minutely underperforms during the laning phase. They however make up for it by performing to their full capacity during team fighting giving your team the edge you gained by performing slightly higher than normal. In my games all 4 members of my team feed, position poorly, blindly raid the enemy jungle try and 1v5 and all sorts of other failure. So as it would end up I have 2k hp the other team does 6k burst they kill my while my team runs into each other and dies and the game is lost. Even if they don't kill me first. I manage to kill a few on the other team while my team runs into each other and dies and then the remaining members of the team who are nearly as fed off my team as I am on theirs kill me and end the game.

Learn math and logic you freaking idiot.