"LeBlanc is the easiest mid laner to play. Just Q>R>W lol, and sometimes E."

Mariah CARRY LOL·Nov 22, 2015·46 votes·3,250 views

#ThingsLowElosSay

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MasterSomethingNov 22, 201536 votes

I admit, she takes some skill to play/get used to and master. Thing is, she's annoying as fuck to lane against.

HayRossNov 22, 201523 votes

Just anyone with stupid mobility that they can use to dodge literally anything they want Zed Yasuo Leblanc LeeSin

And let's not forget the most mobile champion in the game: Chogath

MasterSomethingNov 22, 20153 votes

I just kicked a LeBlanc's ass with AP God'Maw. KISS MY ASS LB

You forgot Kennen there, by the way.

HayRossNov 22, 20151 votes

I've never found him as nearly as obnoxious as the other 4, but I guess you could toss him on the list

MasterSomethingNov 22, 20151 votes

God I hate Kennen. Freaking free stuns, AoE teamfight killer, pokey as shiet...

But w/e

Only Play DariusNov 23, 20152 votes

Don't forget he abuses the hell out of hourglass

MeleeNukeNov 22, 201512 votes

Yeah, sometimes you get matched against a retarded lb. Oh god the joy.

A Miss FortuneNov 23, 20153 votes

Had a Leblanc who rushed item 3151

The SoulforgedNov 23, 20152 votes

The good lb rushes guise ;).

A Miss FortuneNov 23, 20151 votes

Pretty sure she was building something like item 3136 item 3003 item 3020 (mind you she sold her Doran's at like level 5)

I think she just forgot she wasn't Cassiopeia

Lithium RosaNov 23, 20152 votes

And Azir He is my most hated mid right now

Only Play DariusNov 23, 20153 votes

He takes true skill to play and can actually be outplayed relatively easily if you know how his kit works

kaltenashesNov 23, 20151 votes

i'm gonna buy him, nice skin coming out for him, gonna try to master the master

Meep ManNov 23, 20151 votes

The only difference is her Q cant miss, but she has no sustained damage compared to those others as well.

RisenDarkKnightNov 22, 20156 votes

She's even more annoying to jungle against. You have to hope your mid laner doesn't lose because leblanc is almost impossible to kill in ganks. Ahri at least has a long ult cooldown.

terkmcNov 23, 20152 votes

This is the point you pull out jg Malzahar , for when you absolute, positively have to gank a motherfucker

RisenDarkKnightNov 23, 20151 votes

I actually played jg malzahar (ad) the other day. Went 4/0/2 in the first 20 mins but we lost after. That actually would probably work, as would ganking for a malzahar as any jungler. Honestly malzahar is just really good at locking someone down haha.

AnidanNov 23, 20152 votes

It's basically WW trading away tankiness for absurd damage. It's awesome.

Only Play DariusNov 23, 20151 votes

I had the same exact problem with Kassadin early S5

RisenDarkKnightNov 23, 20151 votes

Yeah kassadin is really hard to gank after lvl 6. However, you can at least try to kill him pre-6 and you can kill him after 6 if he riftwalks aggresively. (lvl 16 with max cdr it's almost impossible, but the cooldown is barely long enough at 6). Leblanc doesn't lose anything if she distortions aggresively since she just returns to her starting position. Even if you do manage to lock her down, her passive will trigger making her hard to kill.

kaltenashesNov 23, 20151 votes

ahri has a long ult cooldown? most of my games with her i'm able to have it right when i need

RisenDarkKnightNov 23, 20151 votes

Haha I meant compared to leblanc. It's fairly long at lvl 6 unless you have cdr already built.

kaltenashesNov 23, 20152 votes

OOOHhhhhh

dont tell anyone,but i go for cdr boots and i barely use her w... somehow i got mastery 6 with her, that doesnt mean i'm good with ahri, i'm good only against yasuo (90% of my games were against him)

PuynsiNov 22, 201510 votes

Thats not something low elo says, thats something dumb people in general says.

Only Play DariusNov 22, 20154 votes

I won't deny she takes a certain amount of finesse to play properly, but that doesn't excuse her reprehensible design. Just like Yasuo

AuryielNov 22, 20153 votes

More like, people who have never played LeBlanc. Honestly she feels so BS to play against and yet she IS very hard to play.

The perception and the reality are so different, it's very strange.

RyzeReworkNov 23, 20152 votes

kinda like riven everyone recks face with her but when i play with her i look like a fucking monkey lol

My Waifu VanillaNov 23, 20151 votes

The Law of Inverse Riven (and Shaco) applies here

It is law that the Riven on the enemy team will be a D5 smurf while the one on your team will be a bronze 5 that bought an account.

You cannot argue with science.

Lithium RosaNov 23, 20153 votes

Lol yeah I recently asked for some High Elo guides on Lux, and I specially noted that I need something other than common sense.
Well I end up having a bunch of silver and bronze players telling me "lmao why do u even need a guide on lux she's brainless"

nananananacatNov 22, 20152 votes

I've played Jax jungle since before Sated Devourer, but the amount of people talking about how little skill it takes to play him has risen this patch thanks to Guinsoo's. So I think I know what you mean xD. Literally had a Fiddlesticks tell me how Jax is a champion that takes no skill and all you do is ** press W** to win. And in the end screen, Fiddlesticks said that Jax takes no skill and I was probably jerking it with one hand while playing Jax with the other.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2016196914/51010149

Although, Jax is pretty unbalanced at the moment, if the games I've played recently are a good indicator...

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2016196914/51010149?tab=overview http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2014638034/51010149?tab=overview http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2015191368/51010149?tab=overview

And on an off note, look at this comeback that me and my friends made! A 50 minute game in this fast meta xD The Akali was hard carrying for a while, but the rest of her team took 30 minutes to not finish the game and throw and let us comeback. :P

nananananacatNov 22, 20152 votes

And on an off note, look at this comeback that me and my friends made! A 50 minute game in this fast meta xD The Akali was hard carrying for a while, but the rest of her team took 30 minutes to not finish the game and throw and let us comeback. :P

The comeback was in a Karma game: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2015936703/51010149?tab=overview

We were 4v5 for the entire game after MF gave 3 kills to the enemy bot lane. And we managed to win 4v5.

Curling VeigarNov 22, 20152 votes

right.... leblanc is actually really bad right now

Only Play DariusNov 23, 20151 votes

Good, no one misses her

AnidanNov 23, 20151 votes

Don't you primarily play Nasus?

Any game is a good game when I don't see Nasus, Katarina, Yasuo or Kalista.

AutoreactiveCD4Nov 23, 20152 votes

On paper everything is easy in this game. Then you realize you have the hand eye coordination of a drunken snake and holy crap there's 2 of me.

The EcdysiastNov 23, 20152 votes

"Any character in this game is mechanically difficult"

Things people who don't play Soul Calibur say.

AnidanNov 23, 20151 votes

You just compared a MOBA... to a fighting game. Those are completely different mechanical skillsets.

That's not how this works.

"LeBlanc is hard to play!" "Things people who don't play Agh's Scepter Invoker say."

Or, to keep it in the same game, if more than just the same genre is desired:

"Things people who don't play Orianna say."

T RexHasTinyArmsNov 23, 20151 votes

But wait, you mean we can't compare different things? I can't compare boxing and lol? But I need to explain to my friend how painful solo que is. :(

AnidanNov 23, 20151 votes

I now very much want to hear your boxing analogy to solo queue o.o

The EcdysiastNov 23, 20151 votes

I'm just saying the characters aren't mechanically difficult.

Taking into account the itemization, resource maintenance, strategy, etc., it's just as hard if not harder.

Speaking strictly in terms of the character mechanics, though it's a lot easier. It's not too difficult to master a champion's moveset because the game isn't designed for you to become the best at one character. There are limitations that you cannot overcome with any amount of skill simply because the characters aren't complicated enough individually.

Any character in SC can beat any other if the players are equally skilled, with around the same winrate. In LoL though, players of equal skill have the win determined by the limitations of the champion. You can't overcome the differences in a Taric vs. Ekko 1v1 because one character has very strict limitations that the other does not and can't be overridden with anything the player does mechanically.

Of course, that's where items and allies and communication all come in, but we are limiting this to only the mechanics allowed by the character free of those aspects, That's why people who say "1v1 me scrub" are idiots. There's nothing you can do to beat a counter without allies, if the player is at least as skilled as you.

Cloud PotatoNov 23, 20151 votes

Everyone knows that LB's real combo is W > R > Q > E > W. QRW only worked when Q Silenced people. Now that that combo has counterplay, gotta do something else to get that lack of retaliation.

My Waifu VanillaNov 23, 20151 votes

Like abuse the fact W and R (the Mimic Distortion) has the highest base and scaling in her kit for maximum burst? Like I am all for the ability doing damage but it should NOT outburst her Q since it is her mobility ability as well. At least with the old W-Q-R-E you could maybe dodge the E and live but with Q-W-R-E it doesn't really matter since all of her damage is now realistically point and click and verrrrry fast since you can W-R in less than half a second on top of each other and then dip out while your Chain goes a million miles despite you blinking.

AnidanNov 23, 20151 votes

Q-W-R-E isn't the highest burst she can do.. However, it's probably the most reliable. Q-R-W-E is still the highest burst. Hell, E-R-Q-W would be higher damage than Q-W-R-E. W into R is the lowest damage I can see her doing, but it makes up for that with reliability, in that the most important damage isn't delayed for anything.

Q-R-W-E would do (610 + 140% AP (Q-R alone)) + (545 + 120% (W+triggering R mark)) + (280 + 100% AP (E)). Totalling that up we're at 1435 (base) + 360% AP (scaling)

Q-W-R-E would result in (555 + 140% AP (Q-W proccing sigil)) + (450 + 90% AP (R)) + (280 + 100% AP (E)). Totalling this one up nets us 1285 (base) + 330% AP (scaling).

Just for kicks and grins, here's E-R-Q-W: (280 + 100% AP (E)) + (600 + 120% AP (R)) + (555 + 140% AP (Q+W)), totalling out at, again, 1435 (base) + 360% AP (scaling)

PoskeNov 23, 20151 votes

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Everyone knows that LB's real combo is W > R > Q > E > W. QRW only worked when Q Silenced people. Now that that combo has counterplay, gotta do something else to get that lack of retaliation.

Every good le bl player knows that she has 30 core combos... WRQE is just one of them Yeah 30 literaly 30

I can write them down if you want . But plz dont make me do that);

Athenes LuluNov 23, 20151 votes

Meanwhile Sona Lulu are legitimately easy as shit midlaners.

LB at least have to end the game ASAP or else everyone else would catch up to her burst, the other two doesn't have to worry about that.

I mean that's also why people are bad at LB, you know?

Only Play DariusNov 23, 20151 votes

Leblanc late game isn't her strong point but it is by no means the end for her, once she has 6 items a well placed W>R>W can singlehandedly win a team fight, there was a clip of her at worlds nuking 3 members of the enemy team for 75% of their HP late game, and her team making a comeback off that I can't remember which game though.

ShonjlNov 23, 20151 votes

She is similar to Yasuo to me, she isn't as easy as people make her sound, but if she can actually be played she is a pain in the ass to even survive against.

She is hardly easy, I have newfound respect for people that do her well.

PiVoRxNov 23, 20151 votes

Damage was never problem with lb, zed or ahri, it was their over 9000 safety level. You basicly cant lose lane if you play one of those, and if you do you are just bad,

T RexHasTinyArmsNov 23, 20151 votes

Also: Kalista is a really good ADC, I'm gonna pick her.

(Pro tip, if you have more than 20 games on her and aren't in high elo or at like 90% win rate on her, don't pick her bc she's too hard for you to play right)