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Critmaster Garen1 votes

ninja tabi are a counter to wukong. except for his ult, everything he does is auto attacking. the damage on his e mainly comes from his underwhelming as steroid. you can barely even feel the direct damage. his q counts as an auto attack.

his w is countered by randuins active or the trinket upgrade.

why do people think that champion is strong? ive never had an issue with him. hes not terrible, but not good either. so easy to outplay.

hOrnn1 votes

ninja tabi are a counter to wukong. except for his ult, everything he does is auto attacking. the damage on his e mainly comes from his underwhelming as steroid. you can barely even feel the direct damage. his q counts as an auto attack.

his w is countered by randuins active or the trinket upgrade.

why do people think that champion is strong? ive never had an issue with him. hes not terrible, but not good either. so easy to outplay.

ninja tabi huh? i rushed last whisper and maxed Q, that gave me 70%? armor penn, when i pressed R J4 melted.

as for a 3k gold defensive item countering him, you wont have this early game where you need it to stop him from snowballing.

hOrnn1 votes

ninja tabi are a counter to wukong. except for his ult, everything he does is auto attacking. the damage on his e mainly comes from his underwhelming as steroid. you can barely even feel the direct damage. his q counts as an auto attack.

his w is countered by randuins active or the trinket upgrade.

why do people think that champion is strong? ive never had an issue with him. hes not terrible, but not good either. so easy to outplay.

ninja tabi huh? i rushed last whisper and maxed Q, that gave me 70%? armor penn, when i pressed R J4 melted.

also hes strong because his passive stacks with that 21 defense 4 point ability, giving him a ton of free stats in teamfights, so u can build an early frozen mallet for health and still tank hard, he deals alot of burst with good attack speed and armor shred steroid, did i mention the 480% scaling ad freelo ult?

if u want to beat wukong, pick lee sin or darius though.

garen beats him up until the point wukong learns to w his silence, and out scales him hard, and with a black cleaver/ghost blade/ lw + q garen cant do crap to him.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

ninja tabi are a counter to wukong. except for his ult, everything he does is auto attacking. the damage on his e mainly comes from his underwhelming as steroid. you can barely even feel the direct damage. his q counts as an auto attack.

his w is countered by randuins active or the trinket upgrade.

why do people think that champion is strong? ive never had an issue with him. hes not terrible, but not good either. so easy to outplay.

ninja tabi huh? i rushed last whisper and maxed Q, that gave me 70%? armor penn, when i pressed R J4 melted.

as for a 3k gold defensive item countering him, you wont have this early game where you need it to stop him from snowballing.

ninja tabis passive isnt affected by armor pen or armor reduction. there is no way around it. wukong will lose 10% damage off his q and auto attacks, just from one rather cheap item. which is huge, considering most of his damage comes from autos. also, if you build a randuins hes fucked.

as wukong you can opt for armor pen, or for % health damage with a bork. but a randuins + ninja tabi will give you good enough all around protection not to get killed by him.

the armor isnt even that important. the attack speed slow, the damage reduction from the tabi and the randuins active to prevent him from escaping with w are more than enough to fight him.

ninja tabi are a counter to wukong. except for his ult, everything he does is auto attacking. the damage on his e mainly comes from his underwhelming as steroid. you can barely even feel the direct damage. his q counts as an auto attack.

his w is countered by randuins active or the trinket upgrade.

why do people think that champion is strong? ive never had an issue with him. hes not terrible, but not good either. so easy to outplay.

ninja tabi huh? i rushed last whisper and maxed Q, that gave me 70%? armor penn, when i pressed R J4 melted.

also hes strong because his passive stacks with that 21 defense 4 point ability, giving him a ton of free stats in teamfights, so u can build an early frozen mallet for health and still tank hard, he deals alot of burst with good attack speed and armor shred steroid, did i mention the 480% scaling ad freelo ult?

if u want to beat wukong, pick lee sin or darius though.

garen beats him up until the point wukong learns to w his silence, and out scales him hard, and with a black cleaver/ghost blade/ lw + q garen cant do crap to him.

are you kidding me? garen crushes wukong. all you have to do is hit your spin, when he tries to trade with you. because to get some real damage on you, he has to stand close and auto attack. even if he tries to juke with his clone, he will still eat a good amount of the spin before he gets out, and you can run after him, catch up and and hit him with q. i have never EVER had a problem with wukong on garen.

not to mention garens q has a 8 second cooldown, and wus clone 18 seconds. which means you run at him with q, he jukes it with his clone, still eats at least half of a spin, and you either zone him from cs and experience for that duration, or he tries to come close and cs and eats a full q + spin chain.

not to mention, that hes gonna be out of mana after a couple times.

also, these are the same offensive items i build on garen. if garen gets ahead, you wont get far with that build. 30% damage reduction from his w and 10% damage reduction from the tabi say, he doesnt care about that armor shred. with the same items, garen will be stronger than wukong in a direct duel.

the only thing the monkey got over garen is team utility with his knockup and the potential to sneak in from an unexpected angle and assassinate a squishy. but he usually doesnt survive the lane phase to get there. he doesnt compare well to other fighters.

thats why i havent played wu on top in along time. hes better off in the jungle, and uses his ult to set up kills for his teammates.

by the way, his attack speed steroid isnt good. its just 30% bonus on early ranks.

hOrnn1 votes

i'll go ahead and answer my own question here, just like rengar vs wukong, riven vs wukong is a skill matchup.

as wukong, start flask 2 health 1 mana pot and max q over e.

start playing aggressive lvl 1 aa q aa without taking to much minion harrass, keep her poked low and all in her lvl 2/4 and try to snowball, if it gets lvl4 + she can start to face roll you, use your clone wisely.

i would get a sustain item first probably like hydra/bt, although that game i rushed last whisper because i was maxing q and i was snow balling hard, i just wanted to melt their team with my ult, or riven with e q r.

and i did.

hOrnn1 votes

ninja tabis passive is only good early game honestly, if u have 300 ad, it takes away 30, this is a chunk yes, but its not a huge ammount.

its only 10%, it does not change the fact u are claming a pair of boots counters a champion, if this were true ninja tabi would counter every ad champ in game.

not going to read that wall of txt though.

as for garen crushing wukong, the way i see it is, garen wins lane sure, but he loses the game.

wukong in teamfights > garen in teamfights.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

ninja tabis passive is only good early game honestly, if u have 300 ad, it takes away 30, this is a chunk yes, but its not a huge ammount.

its only 10%, it does not change the fact u are claming a pair of boots counters a champion, if this were true ninja tabi would counter every ad champ in game.

not going to read that wall of txt though.

as for garen crushing wukong, the way i see it is, garen wins lane sure, but he loses the game.

wukong in teamfights > garen in teamfights.

its 10% less damage from auto attacks. including empowered auto attacks like wukongs q, and critical strikes. theyre equally strong all game.

and they dont counter every ad champ. they counter auto attack focused champs specifically.

hOrnn1 votes

ninja tabis passive is only good early game honestly, if u have 300 ad, it takes away 30, this is a chunk yes, but its not a huge ammount.

its only 10%, it does not change the fact u are claming a pair of boots counters a champion, if this were true ninja tabi would counter every ad champ in game.

not going to read that wall of txt though.

as for garen crushing wukong, the way i see it is, garen wins lane sure, but he loses the game.

wukong in teamfights > garen in teamfights.

its 10% less damage from auto attacks. including empowered auto attacks like wukongs q, and critical strikes. theyre equally strong all game.

and they dont counter every ad champ. they counter auto attack focused champs specifically.

it doesnt counter them either, it just offers -10% of damage worth of counter play.

compare it to a tryndamere shout that = -80 ad and its nothing.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

ninja tabis passive is only good early game honestly, if u have 300 ad, it takes away 30, this is a chunk yes, but its not a huge ammount.

its only 10%, it does not change the fact u are claming a pair of boots counters a champion, if this were true ninja tabi would counter every ad champ in game.

not going to read that wall of txt though.

as for garen crushing wukong, the way i see it is, garen wins lane sure, but he loses the game.

wukong in teamfights > garen in teamfights.

its 10% less damage from auto attacks. including empowered auto attacks like wukongs q, and critical strikes. theyre equally strong all game.

and they dont counter every ad champ. they counter auto attack focused champs specifically.

it doesnt counter them either, it just offers -10% of damage worth of counter play.

compare it to a tryndamere shout that = -80 ad and its nothing.

yes, but its still enough to get a huge advantage on him very early on. i mean these things are cheap. really cheap. and later on, theyre still strong against him, his adc and whoever else might be auto attack focused on his team.

since resistances on their own have become worth less, tabis passive became worth more compared to other sources of armor. because its a source of damage reduction that cant be bypassed by last whisper or armor shred.

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