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Tired of Players asking for nerfs..

LCS DoubleVision·9/21/2015, 9:14:53 PM·13 votes·1,272 views

It's stupid.. every time someone gets a champ and starts to main them the bad players group up and beg for a nerf because it's easier for them to complain then to learn how to build/play against that champ.

Stop listening to these players Riot.. it's like giving your kid a cookie to shut them up cause they won't stop throwing a fit.

Let's take for instance.. how many threads were there to nerf her? So she got changed.. and yet she wasn't hard to play against in the first place.. she had a weak early game and then all you had to do is buy pink wards to totally screw her over.. but people either didn't know that or didn't want to buy a pink ward so they begged for a nerf... Same for fizz.. and now they want an annie nerf.

Here is an idea ... stop feeding these champs and just build MR item for a change.. ever think of that? Every champ is broken if you feed them.. and every champ will wreck you if they are fed and you don't build correctly.

If you are going to take advice from players, AT LEAST take advice from players who actually know how to play against that champ and build correctly.. then maybe there is something to fix.. but just to nerf a champion because people don't know the ins and outs of that champion or how to build/play against them?

Look at the majority crying for nerfs.. it's normally under level 30 or bronze/silver players who think they are God and don't even know how to ward/upgrade trinkets or build correctly for each situation.

40 Comments

Kaelnor9/21/2015, 9:20:04 PM2 votes

It's the same damn bullshitt with fcking Fiora . Mofos can't figure how to get around her W, so they just ban, ban, ban, and cry OP. Jeez it's like the Call of Duty community. Filled with peeps that can't think outside their own box.

Live2LetDie9/21/2015, 10:10:14 PM2 votes

Proposed many times to limit g&b board to plat+ only. Hell you can't even be on riots balance team unless your play minimum.

Sinneli9/21/2015, 10:57:33 PM2 votes

I had this instance when there was someone who challenged me to 1v1. He picked Malzahar. I picked Vel'koz. After he took every single skillshot in the face (and yes, he just stood on my W for the second proc) he said "wtf is this damage" and "picking op champ"

TurquoiseYoshi9/21/2015, 11:19:03 PM2 votes

It's funny how little you understand what you're looking at. It's easy to look at the Fizz nerfs and say, "Dang those G&B people who think they know everything," until you actually look at it and realize that it's a nerf to Bruiser Fizz and not AP Fizz. Most people hate AP Fizz, but the LCS used Bruiser Fizz because it's flat-out better. It's actually a buff to late-game AP Fizz.

As a side note, Annie nerfs have been suggested for a while now. It's not like it just showed up in the past few days. It just seems like it because most people stopped complaining about Annie because the juggernauts were more important to talk about.

Raid Boss Morde9/22/2015, 1:12:28 AM2 votes

Actually, pink wards never countered Akali's targeted burst, and it also doesn't counter her resets.

Budupops9/22/2015, 12:48:13 AM1 votes

the main problem is the majority of boards are bronze-gold so they are talking out off their ass. this is also the reason i stopped posting in gnb

Cindikle9/23/2015, 2:49:39 AM1 votes

While I agree there's too much "QQ NERF NAOW" threads out there. It generally shows a champion has a very broken kit more than they need a nerf.

Akali needs a rework. She has high burst and three strong long range targeted dashes that reset on kill/assist. If she has all 3 charges you are not escaping her without help. Her dash has no counterplay other than "stay away 6 Teemos".

This is not OK. This is bad design that has led her to constantly be on the line of OP and useless. And the reason she is on Riot's rework list, although it probably wont be a large rework.

Other champions:

Vayne

Uncounterable damage, %max HP true damage. Although not the real reason to complain about her.
Massive self peel. Not even for an ADC. For any champion in general. While also being a hyper carry. And it takes little skill to do so since it's all either targeted or on a low CD.

LeBlanc

Almost everything you wont from an assassin in a kit.
Before her R rework over a year ago she has a huge problem with waveclear and she had to snowball to matter. That is no longer the case. Riot took away a lot of her biggest weaknesses with this change. It was a needed change. But they need to give it weakness somewhere. W dealing reduced damage to minons at lower ranks would probably return her to her old state of waveclear being her weakness. Without ruining her.

Riven

Do I even need to get into this one? Builds AD, gets everything.
Animation canceling is a flat out broken mechanic. How is a new player, as hard as it is for them to join league as it is, mean to learn these things? This has been a solid game for years now. A new people would come in to expect things to work. But wait, if you play Riven you can break the animations and do attacks sooner than other champions. Great image for clarity there. Not saying things need to be dumbed down. But the kit should be the challenging part. Not 'who can break the game better'.

Lee Sin

So many ways to avoid getting caught while being a champion that takes great advantage of another champion's mistakes. Given he does take skill to preform at a proper level.
High base damage and scaling.
Only real weakness is that he doesn't offer too much in a teamfight. He makes a sub-par tank/assassin in those cases. But that doesn't stop him from punting your squishies into his team then going poof into the night before you can kill him.

Just a few.

These 4 and many more that get complained about usually have frustrating kits to deal with. In a game that's built around the idea that you're meant to take advantage of your enemies mistakes. These champions are able to cover their own mistakes and take advantage of your own.

If a Brand catches someone, he has to land two skills shots. Akali just pushes R, Qaa, sit in bush. Repeat. Sure Brand will do more in teamfights if he lives. But your team will be raging over the fed Akali by then.

hi im alphonse9/22/2015, 2:33:06 AM1 votes

That's why I dont say OP anymore. I say annoying

Yes Akali may have been easy to play around. But not everyone played around her right and she stomped. OP is debatable, but definitley annoying

AP Fizz. Squish as hell, but that little shit's E means no one will ever think "Oh boy! a Fizz! Thisll be fun!"

LCS DoubleVision9/22/2015, 4:44:37 AM1 votes

Here is the Thing...

People complain about Champions all the time but the same people who complain look at their match history. They will go against a Annie mid but never build any mr, they will go against a Fiora but never build Armor.. It's like ya you lost the game because the enemy team is all AD and you didn't build one armor/health item and then wonder why you get melted so quick.

Another thing is.. They will get out played by the person and then wants nerfs.. You aren't losing lane because the champion is op, you are losing lane because you are getting out played by a better player.. no one seems to want to admit to it, they would rather say the champion is broken and cry nerfs rather then accept they got out played.

Name any champ and I will tell you how to play against them and what to build to play against them.. Most people just type in a build in google and copy it.. they ignore the situational items listed by higher elo and just pick the main items listed. That's the problem..

The funniest one is people always complaining about Morg's Q.. yea it's a stun, yes it lasts awhile, but instead of complaining about a nerf how about learning how to dodge skill shots? Think about it... you complain about a 2.5 second stun and yet how many times did you just walk into it? The problem isn't the champ it's you.

If you are getting hit by morgs Q 7 outta 10 times, she is either a better player than you and telegraph your movement or you are just bad and walk right into it. A Morg shouldn't be able to land a Q on you more then 50% of the time and if she does that's on you.

warpenguin5559/22/2015, 6:54:52 PM1 votes

ikr. So when can we nerf Vayne XD

Silver Fluffenbu9/21/2015, 10:58:51 PM1 votes

[{quoted}](name=LCS DoubleVision,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=Z5qGXEnZ,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-09-21T21:14:53.677+0000) the majority crying for nerfs is normally under level 30 or bronze/silver players

I know, right? which is so shocking considering silver, bronze, and unranked make up less than 25% of the player base, but they're still loud af like just because they're new their opinions matter.

Catastrop9/23/2015, 2:23:10 AM1 votes

This post speaks to me on so many levels. It's like when people say to nerf Annie all the time. I don't think these people realize that Annie's entire purpose as a champion is to accommodate Newbies in the game. So overcomplicating her kit or reducing her numbers just defeats the purpose she was made for. A reliable high damage mage that any new player could pick up and enjoy.