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A theory that may reducing trolling in your games.

ThePartyLeader··16 votes·1,556 views

If you are one of the people who experience these things almost every game.

Players that Troll Rage Afk Feed

Teams that don't Use teamwork Ward Teamfight Take objectives

Have you ever thought about what causes your teammates to not want to try, win, or even play the game at all?

Sure it is expected to get these bad games every now and then but maybe you get them over 50% or even 90% of the time.

Maybe there is a common factor in these games. Maybe your teammates are reacting to a common catalyst that pushes them into tilting, rageing, or not wanting to communicate. Is it scuttle crab silently taunting them by dodging skill shots? Or perhaps the river bush that's barely avoiding that ward. They are in every game. There is one other common variable in all these games though. You. Maybe if you take a step back and judge yourself fairly you will see something you never thought of that you are doing that negatively effects your entire team mentally.

I can't tell you what it is or where it is hiding but if you truly want a better experience my guess is that it has to start with you.

Reading the forums I find that my matchmaking experience is vastly different from a lot of people. I don't remember the last time someone actually afked after rageing, or said "gg ff at 20" after first blood. I don't recall the last champ I have seen suicide repeatedly into turrets or summoner wish death upon another player.

Just a thought. Maybe I am just that lucky.

25 Comments

Jari9 votes

I deserve chalenjour and these bronze teamates are too heavy to carry on my 20/30 azir. Report pls.

/s

Shield Villain7 votes

This seems like a very unlikely condition, just based on a few factors I'd consider. The first being that there are 9 other players who influence the game, and the second that you don't know what's going on with these 9 other players. Maybe something in their real life is affecting their game, or something the enemy said.

It's true a lot of it can be influenced by being more positive yourself, but I think for the most part we're typically insignificant factors, unless we're actively practicing behaviors that made us huge dicks.

In my experience, most of my negative games start when one person messes up, and another over reacts. Or when one person begins losing, and they start getting salty and blaming others.

I'm sure that for the most part, most people are okay and behave pretty decently. It's just those 1/10 people that feel like they have the most presence in a game, for the negative way in which they behave.

ThePartyLeader1 votes

The thought is that if you experience these types of things more often than not that you may be doing something unintentional to set other people off.

Warning use of numbers in a non scientific way

From my personal experience I might encounter this stuff 5% of the time. Then I assume that I am experiencing the same game as the average league player. I can make the educated guess that if you are a statistical anomaly experiencing a 50% or greater troll rate. Most likely the 9 randoms aren't causing the majority of the trolling in your games since if they were they should be causing that amount of trolling in my games.

Shield Villain2 votes

Not really. If you play a lot of ranked, you're almost guaranteed have a bad experience in low elo. This is because people are trying to climb out and frustration will often over shadow them. Even if you did play well all game, didn't speak a word, communicated through pings and joined team fights/split pushed, there's no guarantee you won't have a few ragers.

You can do all you can to avoid these situation. I know for the most part I try to remain quiet, and will only say things like "Take dragon" "Top MIA" "JG is top" and "Split pushing." At the most the only real variation I give is "Target _____" "Focus ____." But despite this, I still find that people will find fault in someone who isn't doing anything wrong. If someone, at any point, takes a step in the wrong directions and fucks up, however tiny it may be, someone will more than likely pick up on it, and either then, or later, bash on them for it.

"OMG Mid follow your midlaner. Fucking scrub." "Wow no ganks. GG" "Shitty Jungler lost Dragon." "Stupid Midlane fed." "Top Laner keeps split pushing." "Report Support, no peel/wards." "Worst ADC NA. Reported for feeding."

I've even seen people get mad at someone who was positive and encouraging all game.

A positive and respectful attitude will only get you 1/10th of the way. If you're lucky that attitude will change the others on your team. But all in all, when all is said and done, toxicity will always exist, in abundance.

ThePartyLeader1 votes

I have no proof that my post can solve most people's problems. It is a thought after seeing all of the posts about how terrible this games community is and that they aren't punished for it. Yet people say that they are behaving and getting banned. But my experience has been the polar opposite if I compare league now to season 1. Or to any other competitive team game such as halo. Frankly I see very little trolling afking and verbal abuse. So little I would guess it's less than 10% of games probably less than 5%. People who say they have trolls in 50% - 90% of games I just don't see the statistics working that way to where two players can have that different of experience in the same setting. Just odd.

ayNigerianPrince1 votes

Have you played in bronze? I'm as positive as I can possibly be and I still run into at least one person on my team trolling, flaming, feeding (etc) in about 60% of my games

ThePartyLeader1 votes

I have not and I do definitely believe certain settings in the game have a different level of toxic behavior. It definitely makes sense that people who tend towards those behaviors would end up in bronze and of course other people who aren't "toxic" end up suffering because of it. The question would be how many of those people think they are the problem. Do most of them know that they are being toxic or do they come with a preconceived idea that it is going to happen so when someone gives first blood they just immediately think that they are being trolled and the game is over and become the problem even though they think that the other player is the problem.

ayNigerianPrince1 votes

But my friendly behavior isn't preventing toxic behavior from happening in my games. If I did act like an ass, I might cause some toxicity, but it's not preventing toxicity from happening in my games.

Burnitup2 votes

Or, maybe , just maybe, people in bronze are not feeding nor trolling, they are LEARNING the game... which means they will pick champs not suited to the meta, or will take stupid decisions. Making mistakes is the best way to learn in every aspect of life!item 3060

ayNigerianPrince1 votes

Or, maybe, just maybe, they are intentionally feeding and trolling since they often let you know as it's happening!

Ryntak3 votes

Yeah I think you have a point. I mean, I'm in plat and that's like the most toxic ranked environment in the game (in my experience) and I still get trolls/afks occasionally. (More than in normals or on smurfs). I think you're 100% right.

ThePartyLeader1 votes

Good to hear that I might not be insane.

Yuppers2 votes

I full-heartedly agree with your post. In the beginning of this season, I was placed in Bronze 2 (I was placed in Silver 4 and dropped down to Silver 5 last season before it ended). I struggled, very heavily when it came to climbing out of bronze and early Silver. It wasn't until I started watching videos of more experienced players online and talking WITH more experienced players (which I happen to have Platinum+friends that gave me great advise) that I realized that my attitude was holding me back from climbing...

It wasn't as if I was TRYING to blame other people for my losses, and I felt that I was pretty far away from that mentality. Instead, I saw the mistakes that they made and assumed "Well, I can't help out these people". That was the wrong mentality. Instead, I switched to the mentality of "Hey, I can TRY and do something to help out the team!". I began to shot-call more, and I also began to notice A LOT more of my personal mistakes. Because of this self-epiphany, I was finally able to hit Gold V (now gold 4, but whether or not I get demoted remains to be seen ;p ). It really IS attitude that helps you personally out in a game. It also influences other people too by remaining positive. When someone makes a mistake, assure them that it's OKAY and that we'll (WE as a team) do better next time. If they do something great, I almost always congratulate the player and try to push for more benefits from their play.

TL;DR, You're right man. item 2009

Infiny Mage2 votes

I climbed out of silver/bronze being the team cheerleader. Often times there's one or two people on the team who rages at another when they do badly. I go ahead and remind them that trashing/writing in all caps/etc doesn't help the teammate or the team what so ever. If that fails I kindly tell the team mate who's being trashed/flamed etc to mute the toxic player and not bother responding to their behavior. And I also make sure to let said player know that if their attitude doesn't change I will be reporting them. This often gets them to take it down a notch or simply go off the edge which just solidifies my report. While yes they may not be punished right away but I know I'm making sure in the long run that if they continue this behavior in other games and get reported that they will in the end get what's coming to them. And now that we get those little messages letting us know a player we've recently reported has been punished, it makes it all the worth while. Best case scenario is that the teammate apologizes for losing their temper and when this does happen its 100% times easier to pull together and make that much needed come back. And as of late I really only ever get 1/30 games where someone trolls. 1/20 where some rages and goes off the deep end. It truly does help to be that person who puts the effort to make sure that person(s) on tilt doesn't continue to spread their nasty attitude to the other fellow teammates. Least it has for me.

JacctheInsomniac1 votes

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ThePartyLeader1 votes

Replying to the first part of your comment. You say that you only encounter toxicity when you or someone does poorly. Doesn't someone almost always have to do poorly in a game? I lose lane sometimes same as most people but I don't remember more than once that someone commented on my bad play except for when I got called out for missing thresh hooks in lane repeatedly. But that's all they did. It didn't turn into name calling, insults, afk or trolling and we still won the game.

JacctheInsomniac1 votes

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High51 votes

It is a competitive game and that's what makes it fun. LoL is not a pick up and play against the computer type of game. If someone has learned all the roles after 100 games and another people doesn't even understand how to effectively use their trinket, the latter person deserves negative feedback.

Positive encouragement is preferable, but if the carrot doesn't work, maybe the stick will. That's not necessarily being toxic.

I find that very often, it's the weakest players that like to tell everyone else how the community is toxic.

Rueian1 votes

You have a different experience than other people. Just because one person is the common factor doesn't mean that the random factors dont randomly land frequently on negative individuals.

The community is prone to fits of negativity, if one person is expected to not react that means everyone is expected to do the same. If one player is negative, the 4 others are expected to try to bring up that player, not beat them down farther. The consistent factor is the communities outlook on each other. The community believes itself to be toxic, so everyone is toxic.

ThePartyLeader2 votes

The last sentence in your post. "The community believes itself to be toxic, so everyone is toxic." I don't believe that. Then the first sentence in your post. "You have a different experience than other people." So do I have a different experience because I don't go into games with the same pre conceived ideas about how the game is going to go as a lot of the community has?

Rueian1 votes

Also Ranked Vs Normals. And premades vs solo play.

Ranked and Solo play is exponentially more hostile an environment

SoMNia1 votes

Victim blaming helps no one. You don't know what others' circumstances are, and you have no grounds for assuming they are personally responsible for their own negative experiences. Considering the number of people who complain of being specifically targeted for things that don't deserve a hostile response and often aren't their fault to begin with, it's particularly inappropriate. Writing this kind of "open letter" to anyone suffering from toxicity, to tell them to fix their own behaviour, is making a lot of assumptions you have no right to make. Don't do this.

PixTron1 votes

Nah, they just need to release SandBox Mode.

The only thing fun to do in LoL right now is flaming and trolling.

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