From someone who has been in "the system" for a while now, I feel like I need to point out...

1 888 DANK MEME·4/9/2015, 12:38:12 AM·1 votes·503 views

Hi guys, it's been a while since I've posted here, but a few of you might remember me from http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4713718&page=1#post48725343. Yes, I have undergone a name change since then because I wanted to dump a bunch of IP and try to get as close to 0 as possible.

Anyway, to a lot of people's disappointment and probably satisfying some others, I still consider myself a highly toxic player. And honestly, I just see no point in changing. After that thread I had a lot of support and I really focussed on changing my attitude, focusing on just having more fun than usual, not being such an ass about runes and masteries. I really felt like I had improved on those final games, I rarely spoke and just tried to be helpful when I could, and yes I had a couple bad days where I still flamed, but I also stopped playing for a while after that game and then I went back in with a fresh attitude!

Well after that I managed to get a 378 game chat restriction, and I was honestly very surprised because I felt like I had really changed, even the rioter on my friends list had been giving me a thumbs up for having a more positive outlook and interacting with the community. Well I made another thread after that because I was honestly very confused, I know when I'm toxic and deserve restrictions, I'm not blind or that dumb, but to me this felt like something I just didn't deserve. Well I got a response to that thread too, and apparently I was toxic enough to warrant 378 games. Oh well, I'll try my best to change again. I feel cheated though, as I feel like lyte unfairly smote me down by taking a couple games out of context, as well as saying me mispelling /mute all by adding a space before '/' was toxic, sometimes I type fast or screw up but because I didn't get the /mute all off the first time, he used it as something against me. I am still salty about that.

I spent a very very large portion of those 378 games communicating by pings, playing more normals and just trying to be helpful, not responding to flame and just muting them (or in a lot of cases, just muting everyone at the start). Finally after grinding through those games, my restrictions were lowered from 378 to 250. Why? Because I simply wasn't positive enough to fully get rid of those restrictions. I was beginning to think to myself that it really was pointless, I'll go down from 250 to 100 if i do the same thing, but I'm not sure if I could.

So I just went back to being toxic, moreso than usual, and now I'm at a well deserved 430 games or so, played off about 80 so far and I was toxic enough to finally warrant ranked restrictions. I have to win about 18 more games of normal draft before going back to ranked games, I haven't really been toxic towards anyone except towards other toxic players who are talking shit like "omg team is so bad" and I'd just respond with "its normals, no one cares dumbass".

But to bring on the main point about the current restriction system, it has honestly made me more toxic of a player. I can't joke around in all chat, I can't joke around with my team because then I waste 5 messages of not being polite enough, or triggering the words that will get me more restrictions, as the system can't really detect context. Honestly, I do not see a point in not being toxic. I tried it, I was given more restrictions. I tried not talking, still didn't get rid of them. The ONE game I had in-between my current restriction and previous one was the_ most fun I've had on this game_ in a very long time. I didn't talk shit, I just talked with the other team and wise-cracked about how shit bard was on aram (his E was pretty much useless). I joked about them not letting me get chimes. It was a really awesome experience.

I honestly do think that without restrictions I would be a way less toxic player. Chat restrictions do nothing but frustrate me more, they make the game way less enjoyable. Now, I definitely deserved my ranked restriction and I am NOT here to defend what I said to deserve them, however I really think that the current system does nothing to "reform" toxic players like riot is trying to do. Every few days I read that post wookie gave me, it helps and calms me down some days, but most of my days I simply don't have fun because I can't use any decent form of communication. People ignore my pings, they ignore my calls if I call for a baron, they do dumb shit then blame me (which I then respond to, like a dumbass).

At this point, I believe that if I keep playing, I will never ever get rid of my restrictions because I have so many of them, and ONE bad day wit ha few bad games sends me right back into the "red zone" of getting more restrictions. And the thing is, I HAVE been polite, respectul, helpful and joking around in games. I've been so polite and helpful to someone that he gave me a skin. That guy was kind as fuck and I just wish I could be that kind in this game, but every time I try it's taken the wrong way or I say it wrong, or something gets fucked up. Joking at someone who spent the whole game flaming now makes me the toxiest person on earth.

I am willing to put my account on the line that if all my restrictions were removed, not only would I become 9000% less toxic, I would become a really good member for the community. But with riot's auto-punish system I just don't see that happening. I hope you guys don't take this as a "toxic player doesn't think it deserves restrictions lolol" but more of a "the system is flawed in some respects and riot needs a better way to reform and deal with toxicity"

As a side note, I do not believe that a person responding to a flamer makes them toxic at all. If I'm toxic towards someone and then they lash out, they aren't toxic. Would you punish a kid for standing up for himself against a bully? probably not, nor would you say that the bullied person is a problem that needs to be punished.

3 Comments

Kwon Ri Sae4/9/2015, 12:41:32 AM1 votes

Lol toxic people problems :P

1 888 DANK MEME4/9/2015, 1:41:26 AM1 votes

Oh also, my last game was with a 5 stack of us all as friends and we shit talk each other, because the system can't recognize this it deems me toxic, another problem with the system.