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KillAllRebels·12/30/2014, 11:26:09 PM·1 votes·880 views

This is why i play with friends. Not because the community is a jerk, but because they refuse to listen to any kind of advice. I don't believe this person was over 15, I am Fairly certain that this person was no where near twenty, because most people over twenty would have listened and given counter point or have agreed. Instead this person just laughed at me as i attempted to help him. I have changed the name's of everyone but myself, i have also fixed most spelling errors. I was playing Nasus, I went 10/8/5 with 218 farm. I am talking to a Sivir, who has gone 1/9/5 with 130 farm, he was complaining about a "Troll" J4, I think j4 is a viable supp but he didn't. the J4 went 6/11/6 with 96 farm. Sivir also complained that j4 did not ward, this is incorrect, j4 placed 1/4 of all wards in the game.

KillAllRebels joined the room. KillAllRebels: Sivir you would just have farmed Sivir: lol KillAllRebels: instead u got mad Sivir: and made the game last longer? KillAllRebels: and it did us no good. Sivir: why would I have done that KillAllRebels: We would have won KillAllRebels: with another Sivir: no we wouldn't of KillAllRebels: bit of damage KillAllRebels: Don't be so damn negative KillAllRebels: there is no reason to be Sivir: there is Sivir: because we wasted 30 minutes Sivir: instead of 20 Enemy Jax: Nasus was ALL your damage Enemy Jax: rofl KillAllRebels: And you have done what with that? KillAllRebels: lost another game? KillAllRebels: lost more LP? Enemy Jax: you had 5k damage sivir Enemy Jax: hahahahahahahah Sivir: not had a troll j4 KillAllRebels: no play this one Sivir: j4 KillAllRebels: and learn KillAllRebels: learn to get batter Sivir: im pretty sure i know what to do KillAllRebels: j4 did better then u Sivir: but when you have a troll Sivir: as j4 KillAllRebels: U took adc KillAllRebels: and gave up KillAllRebels: that is the worst Sivir: who sits and makes me miss cs Sivir: and then doesn't ward KillAllRebels: thing an adc can do Enemy Jax: until you are able to admit your own mistakes Enemy Jax: you won't get better Sivir: lol im fine Enemy WarWick: Lee sin op Sivir: dont worry about me Enemy Jax: clearly KillAllRebels: If ur so "fine" then how are you 1/9? Sivir: because i didn't play? KillAllRebels: Then play KillAllRebels: make the game FUN KillAllRebels: don't just give in cause u cant win KillAllRebels: learn KillAllRebels: get better Sivir: learn what KillAllRebels: win more games later on KillAllRebels: its how league works Sivir: look at my adcs and tell me to learn Sivir: rofl KillAllRebels: and people like you don't understand this Sivir: without troll team mates i can do fine KillAllRebels: Then get a duo supp KillAllRebels: then u can carry all ur games KillAllRebels: Is what i do when i want to win KillAllRebels: its literally ALL i do to win Sivir: i shouldn't have to duo to win in league KillAllRebels: then learn Sivir: learn what KillAllRebels: so that you can carry solo Sivir: i can carry solo Sivir: lol... KillAllRebels: sir it is very simple learn how to cs better KillAllRebels: learn what to do in fight Sivir: i can cs fine KillAllRebels: learn how to control things Sivir: seeing as i can out farm most in games that i know i can win KillAllRebels: don't just sit on your ass KillAllRebels: and complain Sivir: i wasnt Sivir: i walked around KillAllRebels: cause did it help us at all? Sivir: while in base KillAllRebels: no it didn't KillAllRebels: U had no cs Sivir: you aren't going to gain anything from sitting here and trying to tell me what to do Sivir: no shit i had none KillAllRebels: in a loosing game like this Sivir: i was at the base KillAllRebels: go out of you way to cs KillAllRebels: and die if need be KillAllRebels: BUT MAKE THEM WASTE TIME ON YOU KillAllRebels: that's y i was pushing KillAllRebels: to take pressure off KillAllRebels: of you guys KillAllRebels: and u guys got kills KillAllRebels: and i got tower KillAllRebels: it was working KillAllRebels: if you had done something similar Enemy WarWick: dude sivir was sick KillAllRebels: you would have been better off KillAllRebels: get items and become use to the team Sivir: can i leave now KillAllRebels: it was what i did Sivir: or do you still have more to say Sivir: that wont matter to me KillAllRebels: are you learning from what I'm saying? Sivir: no I'm not Sivir: i can adc fine KillAllRebels: or are you annoyed someone is teaching you? Sivir: lol Sivir: look at my last 20 games as adc Sivir: please just look KillAllRebels: "Fine" is not good enough to win games Sivir: just look at like last 20 with cait alone KillAllRebels: I average high amounts of penta kills with Draven KillAllRebels: Dont tell me KillAllRebels: to look at ur stats Sivir: who cares about a penta rofl KillAllRebels: It ment i was doing things KillAllRebels: where as you had one kill KillAllRebels: to nine deaths Sivir: you had 8 deaths Sivir: and you had 10 kills KillAllRebels: and 10 kills KillAllRebels: and 5 assists Sivir: which means each deaths was 300 gold KillAllRebels: and 218 farm Sivir: which means you gave up more than me KillAllRebels: and 4 towers Sivir: i wasn't worth any gold Sivir: so my deaths had 0 effect KillAllRebels: but i Gave us more gold then that Sivir: you gave up more gold Sivir: with your deaths KillAllRebels: you do know gold resets Sivir: at 1k gold KillAllRebels: when u gain an additional 1k gold? Sivir: i didn't farm so i didn't get 1k KillAllRebels: That's the point though Sivir: and i wasn't worth anything Sivir: meaning i gave the other team nothing KillAllRebels: you could have helped us by doing nothing more then helping YOU Sivir: well I'm bored Sivir: so cya KillAllRebels: It's people like you I don't understand. KillAllRebels: these people don't want to learn KillAllRebels: they want to win KillAllRebels: without any effort

I don't understand how people expect to win if they give up so easily? and i did look at this person, know what i learned? That this person is a hit or miss ADC. That this person has an Inflexible Build for his adc's. This person should learn from his games and not give up, attain a more flexible build, and finally, learn to play with others. How do you expect to bot lane if you won't communicate? He complains that J4 messed with his farm, I for one believe that this j4 is pretty smart, two things should have happened here. 1. Sivir should have requested that J4 stop AA Minions in lane when she is walking into lane for the first time. 2. He should have learned to adapt to the influx of damage so that they could push lane. I've been in to many games where one team has an advantage, and they loose. The main reason why is not team comps, it is that the team did not give up, they helped each other and pushed each other to become better so they can win. So if you learn anything from this, please don't give up in games. This is not dota 2 where the first 5 kills determine the whole game, this is league, where at any point in time either team can win.

9 Comments

SkullDuggery1912/31/2014, 12:01:10 AM4 votes

You sound like a dick. Honestly, if a supp is farming minions and puts your adc behind it is seriously hard to fight or get kills. I'm not 15, but I also won't cater to the one guy who wants to go "non-meta" and steal farm from his adc. I hate the ppl who refuse to play meta supports, claiming they are boring. It screws your adc's laning phase up, because they can't focus on farm when you are constantly fighting the enemy team and stealing cs.

If it's so critical for him to "play along" with his teammates, how come he isn't afforded the same respect? Truthfully, you are the one who sounds naive and immature. All you did was look at numbers, nvm the fact that numbers don't tell the whole story. If I play supp, I can f-ck the whole laning phase up for my adc and ppl like you will heap blame on them. This is a team game, so the blame should be shared. It's your job as supp to get your adc fed. If you don't (which j4 didn't) then you aren't doing your job very well. Think about it for a second before rambling and siding with a troll.

Cryptekkk12/31/2014, 12:43:58 AM2 votes

J4 isn't a good support, he is melee and has one combo to go all in, if he misses it, which it is easy(ish) to dodge then he does literally nothing in lane. It's the same problem as blitzcrank, if the guy isn't beyond godlike he is literally useless in lane and you (the adc) will be 2v1ing the whole laning phase. People have NO IDEA how important supports are, I just got out of a game where I was 40 CS down in the laning phase because the blitzcrank support I was against got ONE HOOK on my janna early, she didn't die but we blew the summoners to keep her alive, from then out I had to play ultra conservatively or else I die and feed the lane, compounding the problem.

40 CS is 800+ gold, that is the difference in having an IE or having the components of an IE, which isn't close to the spike in power that an IE provides you. You wouldn't know anything about that though, would you? If I was sivir I'd be pissed off to, if my support is fcking me over in lane it's annoying because you feel the pressure as an ADC to know that if you aren't relevant in the mid/late game your team is going to get run over.

Aerothal12/31/2014, 12:58:46 AM2 votes

You can play non meta supports as long as you want as long as you play the role correctly. That includes not cs'ing, not "helping" to farm (not hitting minions). As a support, meta or non meta your job is to poke and zone and make sure you have vision and thereby let your adc get more farm than the other adc. If you don't do that, meta or non-meta you are doing it wrong. And i am not talking about kills. If you kill the adc or support, and your ADC gets an assist, that just results in freefarm and is a positive thing.

This J4 didnt do any of those things, especially not if he had 96 farm.

You are full of it thinking this was Sivir's fault.

Deep Terror Nami12/30/2014, 11:45:19 PM1 votes

One day, when you go out into the world and spend time with grown adults at work, you'll realize that many are still children and would be indistinguishable from 12 year olds over the internet. Just saying that age doesn't mean jack. The mature older people you can stand being around now were probably tolerably mature years ago, too.

KillAllRebels12/31/2014, 12:28:07 AM1 votes

I am not siding with a troll. I read all of the chat, not a once did Sivir EVER ask for J4 to stop AA'ing minions, i stated this after it all. Secondly Jarven is a good support, sure its non meta, but he's playing sivir, shes pretty useless in this meta too. Also she was playing against a Corki, i watched a bit of their lane this is what i saw, i saw a Jarvan keeping corki off her by suing his e+q combo, did this take farm? occasionally, but it was fairly minimal. his farm didn't spike till he started clearing waves when the Sivir gave up. Sivir dealt no damage, took none (which means when she got caught she just gave in and died). She was usefull till J4 started refering to me as "the Doge" because i was keeping us in the game.

KillAllRebels12/31/2014, 1:33:25 AM1 votes

Again, no one seems to get the point. The point is not "Get over the J4" The point is "Don't give up" Also, I said 1 thing while in game. I told the jungle to ignore my lane. He did, sadly he didn't gank bot enough. But again, Sivir gave up, even after we 4v5'd and aced them with none of us dieing. No one could contest the baron, we were defending against waves at base. He was level 11 when the game ended everyone but the support on their team was 18, This puts even more into perspective of how well we were doing even after he decided we had lost.