Ranked games changes needed!

Aeron Em·2/18/2014, 6:56:44 PM·13 votes·2,599 views

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I had brought this up before on the forums, but recently I saw a video of Elementz expressing the same sentiment and with the new ‘Community Beta’ I felt like I should post this again in the hope that Riot may take this seriously.

At present, although the severity of the situation varies, there is no debate that ranked games do suffer with players afking, raging and intentionally trolling for whatever reason. The stand that Riot seems to have taken is – “We have a tribunal/discipline system in place, and frankly everyone is on an even playing field since it happens to all”

Ranked is meant to be the competitive scene for League of Legends, yet the level of immaturity and discourtesy allowed by Riot (yes! Allowed) reflects very poorly on the company. You wouldn’t allow C9Hai to get up and leave because he gave up first blood during an LCS game without severe consequences would you? Then why allow it in your competitive ladder?

Now I understand and appreciate you don’t want to impede on players’ rights and that most afkers, ragers, etc are good people on a bad day. But I suggest something needs to be done to correct this behaviour. My proposal is to include chat restrictions and strict bans from **ranked play only. **

**For ragers, inappropriate language and trolls (non-feeders) **

  • After first offence (reports in 2 games straight or 3 out of 10) gets an automatic ban from in-game chat for 2 days/week)
  • Second offence results in a 3 day ban form playing ranked games (would be peer or Riot reviewed)
  • Any further reports will result in a ban from ranked for a week – 2 weeks, finally resulting in a life-time ban from ranked.

For afk, trolling, feeding, etc.

  • First offence (reported 2 games straight or 3 out of 10) results in an automatic one day suspension from ranked. (Even if this is caused by bad connections or simply having bad days I believe this time will help them resolve their connection issues and/or calm down)
  • Second offence results in a 3 day ban from playing ranked games (would be peer or Riot reviewed)
  • Any further reports will result in a ban from ranked for a week – 2 weeks, finally resulting in a life-time ban from ranked.

**Notes: ** Ranked is a privilege, not a right. If you do not have the maturity and self-control to be polite and show human decency, you should not be allowed to play with others who do.

To be proactive, reports should be monitored. Any player reporting an excessive amount of times (this can be determined by Riot) or in a span of a month has a majority of reports not found ban-worthy, will get the 3 day suspension.

Feedback: It seems a lot of people who d/c often feel that they should still be entitled to play ranked. This shows a clear disrespect for others who value ranked more than a game type that gives you a pretty icon at the end of the season. I feel Riot should either

  • a) prove that they take the ladder system seriously as some of their player base do and enforce stricter rules.
  • b) or say "No our ranked is not a serious ladder, it's just for fun. If more people are interested we'll create another ladder which will follow stricter rules."

30 Comments

Tray2/18/2014, 10:31:42 PM5 votes

What sucks about ranked is one guy trolls, but doesnt speak. He just silently goes around the map trying to cause the team to lose. This happened to me yesterday where a fiddle, who counter picked himself as support against blitz lost his mind after getting pulled. Cait told him to roam if he was gonna troll. So he declares in all chat hes going to, and proceeds to roam around feeding kills until hes valuless, and doing what ever else he can to cause people to die.

Now im mad because on more than one occasion during this he baits me only walk away and let me die. I call him a troll who is intentionally throwing the game. I get reported for negative attitude.

Thats whats wrong with punishments in ranked. Trolling is allowed and unpunished so long as you dont speak. People who get frustrated and argue are repeatedly punished, despite never not trying in a single game and never afking.

What we need is a system that punishes actions and not words.

5oIid2/19/2014, 2:47:53 AM3 votes

I agree with some points except "First offence results in an automatic one day suspension from ranked. (Even if this is caused by bad connections or simply having bad days I believe this time will help them resolve their connection issues and/or calm down)"

Everyone has bad days where there ISP takes a shit on them its not fair to penalize the player for this and feeding you can't ban someone based on 1 event. People have bad days or a bad game and that would be abused to no end "oh you went o-3 in lane reported for feeding".

UrNext2/18/2014, 8:13:19 PM1 votes

i like your idea, now if they could make a way to tell when people dc (and team calls that afk) a way to know if the summoner was really having problems with his signal or if was just trolling/raging or simply afking.. that would be nice, other than that, everything sounds nice to make this game a better one.

Newbert Newman2/18/2014, 9:28:22 PM1 votes

The main problem with this solution: Reporting and punishment could be to easily abused. Think of the inverse of the Ribbon system, but instead people troll report w/friends. This already happens but if bans became an automatic process this would increase.

Throwing it out there, there's not much that can be easily done short of hiring an army to police every match.

EnerGetiK2/19/2014, 3:44:37 AM1 votes

They are not changing anything, so no point in trying. Just let it be. They're not going to change the whole system just because there's people who want it to be changed lol. However, I do agree that Riot should be more proactive and that reports should be monitored. I've seen someone get 9 reports from everyone because he was really toxic, but he was queued with me the next day with no suspension. 9 REPORTS. That's pathetic.

xXStromLightXx2/19/2014, 3:59:18 AM1 votes

I agree there needs to be more severe punishment for this stuff in ranked but I feel like what you have suggested escalates a bit quickly. One thing that I think would help this is a good feedback system for when they are in danger of a ban from ranked. This brings up another point and potential issue. These judgements on whether someone is banned or something has qualified as an "Offense". We don't want the player getting banned for something he did last month. In my experience of ranked there would need to be a lot of resources dedicated to this to keep it roughly current.

Note: I Derped and logged in as my smurf. I have a level 30 account trust me guys >.<

burdluver902/19/2014, 2:25:49 PM1 votes

I made a post here

With an idea to divide out the ranked community into an Elo based system that is just kinda like rated normals. It's not as serious and anyone over level 30 with 16 champions can play it, but you get to see your rating so you can tell if you're improving or not (the problem with normals is the utter lack of transparency. I have to use some other website to see roughly the caliber of people I am playing with to judge my skill level)

The other system would be harder to get in to and require you to only play champions you know, you wouldn't be able to participate if you had a lot of left games or reports, and it would favor people who had a lot of honor or were chosen as MVP (if that ever happens)

Both systems would be mirrored for skill level through the mmr system, so silver Elo would be playing at the same level as silver in the league system.

I think the big problem with the trolls/ragers/feeders/etc is that they want to see their rating. They want that number/badge/whatever next to their name that says "I AM THIS GOOD". They can't get that playing normals, so they drift to ranked. However, their bad attitude ruins ranked for people who want to play in a truly competetive, serious game mode.

BrightNooblar2/20/2014, 9:14:22 PM1 votes

This makes a strange implication that trolling is unacceptable in ranked, but acceptable in normals. Why not simply making rage/afk/trolling unacceptable everywhere?

Zerana10/22/2014, 3:23:19 AM1 votes

You talk about punishments but what about rewards? Ranked punishments for the most part are fine but if you have no incentive to get good or be good on a consistent basis people will slip up more often. If we had a special skin for each champion based on the skill level with that champion that you could get at any time and would only be available to players who behaved themselves (would be taken away when chat banned starting with most played champion until permanently taken away if consistently bad mannered) then you would have far less toxic players. Smite has this particular system in place complete with a "reputation health meter" that can only let you play ranked when its full. There is no timer but you have to play an extra normal game before you get to play a ranked one. People would have to make more calculated dodges (they would have to KNOW they would lose) and people would be more open with teaching about champs.

Lucian I notice you have a special Annie skin care to share a tip with me?

Annie Sure, just last hit with Q as your mana refunds and have stun ready when the jungler ganks, its also smart if the jungler does not go in until hes sure a stun will be ready soon.

Lucian I'll keep that in mind I always have trouble farming in mid

Annie Not with this one you won't.

And of course special ribbons would be given out more as the helpful one would have a more apparent purpose. And friendly.

MadTrash2/18/2014, 7:58:03 PM1 votes

I recently posted this very same issue on this post:

@RIOT,@Community - Solution to AFK'ers/Disconnects (RANKED) Version 2.0. Something is gotta be done!

I strongly believe punishments for these offenders should be much more severe.

B4RD10/22/2014, 3:27:00 AM1 votes

I think this is a great idea, but what if some troll reports you for no reason after a game. You just ignore it, knowing that it was a troll. Then another troll reports you for no reason the next game. It's just me, but I think it should be about 5 bans to consider your idea. But I really like this idea, a way to get rid of Trundles and feeders.

Aeron Em2/18/2014, 8:04:40 PM1 votes

Thanks for the reply. To anyone that agrees, please click the upvote button, it keeps this up there so Riot has to consider it.

It's a stupid system in my opinion and I don't like it but this is how Riot wants to do it I guess ....

Thanks