Could I get an S- on Maokai (Good reason)

Dangerous Man·Jun 8, 2016·1 votes·1,092 views

Tahm Kench team killed me resulting in an A+ instead of an S-

That death has nothing to do with MY skill (The whole point in getting an S)
Tahm Kench knew what he was doing. He ate me and flashed into dragon pit.
He threw the game because he killed us both, it was a 3v5 and they won 2 minutes later.

Edit: I would get a Lolreplays clip but I just found out you have to download it and I thought it was just a website.

If you're a Rioter and know how to calculate If I would have gotten an S- on Maokai. I would have been 7/3/10 with 14k gold and 238 CS at 39:47 minutes and level 18. (Or could have resulted in a win which is impossible to check)

Also, why is this being downvoted? I just lost an S because of an intentional troll.

9 Comments

WngNutJun 8, 20161 votes

There are two reasons why you're being downvoted. The first is you're asking for an s. Whether you got trolled or are just bad you suck it up and play more and earn an s, not beg to riot to give you one. Second is probably because your score wouldn't have been s worthy even if you didn't get trolled. Nearly 40 minutes in with only 17 total kill participation 238 cs and 14k total gold isn't that at all, for an s you would want at least around 300 cs but probably even more by 40 minutes and should have around 17-18k gold. Also no matter what the time is you want +50% kill participation, I find it hard to believe your team only had 34 kills at 40 minutes but if you guys were really that far behind then that's more of a reason that you were not playing at s rank level. Getting trolled sucks, but that tahm wasn't the reason you lost an s, you just never earned it in the first place.

Dangerous ManJun 8, 20161 votes

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There are two reasons why you're being downvoted. The first is you're asking for an s. Whether you got trolled or are just bad you suck it up and play more and earn an s, not beg to riot to give you one. Second is probably because your score wouldn't have been s worthy even if you didn't get trolled. Nearly 40 minutes in with only 17 total kill participation 238 cs and 14k total gold isn't that at all, for an s you would want at least around 300 cs but probably even more by 40 minutes and should have around 17-18k gold. Also no matter what the time is you want +50% kill participation, I find it hard to believe your team only had 34 kills at 40 minutes but if you guys were really that far behind then that's more of a reason that you were not playing at s rank level. Getting trolled sucks, but that tahm wasn't the reason you lost an s, you just never earned it in the first place.

OK I know how to get an S jesus christ captain obvious. You're telling me to play a perfect game and YES! HE WAS THE REASON I LOST THE S????????? Deaths count for a ton in this system. "You never earned it in the first place" Might as well say nobody in Bronze/Silver/Gold deserves an S ever ok. I just think it's dumb to lose one because of a troll is that hard to understand?

It's basically the same as asking for a loss prevention.

WngNutJun 8, 20161 votes

I'm sorry to say but you clearly don't know how to get an s. If you had only gotten 2 deaths instead of 3 you still would have gotten a, if you knew this then you would know that you have no right to claim you deserve an s. Also a loss prevention means you don't lose lp, it doesn't mean you gain lp. What you're asking for is the equivalent of gaining lp for losing.

Dangerous ManJun 8, 20161 votes

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I'm sorry to say but you clearly don't know how to get an s. If you had only gotten 2 deaths instead of 3 you still would have gotten a, if you knew this then you would know that you have no right to claim you deserve an s. Also a loss prevention means you don't lose lp, it doesn't mean you gain lp. What you're asking for is the equivalent of gaining lp for losing.

No this is a system, not a judge.

The difference? A system won't "be like "Oh you're bronze k you're never getting an S" (I know that because I'm bronze I'm literally the worst rank in League but that doesn't mean i shouldn't ever get an S) and yes I was one death off. Like I said, deaths are the most impactful. Especially on a tank getting fed is different. Sure I probably wasn't going to win the game anyways. But I had to deal with a splitpushing Illaoi which I went 5/0 in lane then to 7/3/10 with 238 CS this thing calculates if I get an S. It doesn't THINK.

About the loss prevention. Ignore Ip. I'm saying I shouldn't be basically punished for playing with a troll.

WngNutJun 8, 20161 votes

You're right, it is a system. A person may say you lost an S but a system will say you gained an A, kinda like a glass half full/half empty sorta thing I guess. And while I can't argue that deaths play a big role in your rank no one actually knows how rank is measured and riot has declined to share that because they don't want people to play a certain way just for an S but the common thought is that CS does play the biggest role, although the validity of that is something I obviously can't prove. We could argue this all day but even two challenger players wouldn't get anywhere. If a player completed his/her ranked provisionals and had the entire team AFK on them all 10 games and they got placed in bronze V Riot would still make no exception for them. Maybe you did deserve an S or maybe not but the unfortunate truth is that you're stuck with that A.

Billy VoHagenJun 8, 20161 votes

I...I could get evidence, but I don't know how, so I can't

Sure

Dangerous ManJun 8, 20161 votes

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Sure

That's exactly it. IDK how to record stuff, I don't have recording software and I'm not gonna spend money on it JUST FOR ONE GAME.

Billy VoHagenJun 8, 20161 votes

They you can't prove you deserve an S. Sorry not sorry.

And it doesn't cost money, don't know where you got that idea.

ZombiemasterJun 8, 20161 votes

You cannot say with 100% certainty that that one death alone caused you to miss an S grade. Why? Well, because we will never true know if you really would have gotten an S grade had you not died there, because you did die. Even if deaths do have the most impact on your grade (this is the first time I am hearing of this, so I would need a source for 100% confirmation), there's still no telling whether or not that one death alone caused you to miss the S grade.