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ppl dont read patch notes, very dangerous

Germaxes··134 votes·6,795 views

I play alot of Skarner. With this new patch 5.16 i played him 7 times and every game someone in my team types "wtf is that" (and pinging on the altars). One game my top laner picked Darius and then types "wtf, my q takes forever to cast, was Darius changed or something?" (his alternate pick was Garen, and he asked to go top lane) All that in ranked queue gold 1

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joebobby141259 votes

Totally understandable that people don't read the patch notes. But, especially something like the juggernaut updates, how do you not at least hear about it? Normal patches with some like slight balancing I get it. Slight changes, who cares? But major changes like this? Come on guys.

Horrow27 votes

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Totally understandable that people don't read the patch notes. But, especially something like the juggernaut updates, how do you not at least hear about it? Normal patches with some like slight balancing I get it. Slight changes, who cares? But major changes like this? Come on guys.

What justification is there to NOT read the PATCH NOTES of the game that you want to play? That sounds borderline moronic to me.

Saltinc2 votes

Because some people just want to play the game not read about it. I think it is smart however. Course i play alot of ranked and need to know stuff.

Jari15 votes

There are people that still don't know about Sion's rework. They still think he's the old clunky whatthefuckdoIbuild kind of guy.

HighH15 votes

What the fuck

AbodyHUN66612 votes

I'd like to see their faces when I ult them with that hulk.

Jari5 votes

Don't play sion often, but oh boy was that moment fun. "What the fuck are you hacking?" Was the response.

maikokk12 votes

I've read every line of every patch note since a few months after i joined. I honestly don't get why people aren't curious about what riot is doing to break and balance the game. i have only seen 2 or 3 "slight balancing" patches in the last 2 years. there is almost always something to look out for, if your eye is keen enough and you pay attention.

JAGMAG7 votes

its not even hard to read the layout is well done so you can skin and get the gist of the changes

Heckin Support9 votes

Never have I been so frustrated when the Fiora rework came out and everyone was wondering wtf is happening how is she doing that, what is a vital? Just, please. Read the damn patch notes.

JMoormann6 votes

To be honest, I don't think it's totally understandable that people don't read the patch notes. I already played with people who blamed the enemy of "Movement speed hacking" when one of them buyed Dead Mans Plate. Being surprised why Garen's ult deals true damage. 5 minutes of work, and it can prevent a lot of trouble. I don't get why people don't do it. Especially on high ELO, even the slightest damage increase or CD decrease can make a huge difference.

HaugheyPuck9930 votes

I had a match where someone on the other team was still trying to use Runeglaive on Ezreal mid 2 patches after they made it only work in the jungle.

Every so often my team would type "Oh Ezreal..." in all chat and he was so confused

Holgranth2 votes

Okay now that is just precious.

T RexHasTinyArms2 votes

:D yeah someone did that in one of my games the patch after it was changed and didn't understand why mid ez was nerfed. They didn't realize he got so much power out of RG converting physical damage into magic.

It's funny when people just play what's popular in LCS and don't realize that they are like 2 patches behind or some shit (I know it's at least one, but it feels like more sometimes).

AbodyHUN6663 votes

Tell that to POE.

Drak Pinebreaker16 votes

Riot should really implement a "soft" forced read of the patch notes. Something like you see in EULAs where you have to scroll to the bottom before clicking away.

Sure, most people will just read 1-2 champs they like or just scroll and skip it all together, but at least it says "Hey! There are new changes. You should read these for the same of you and your team."

DrCyanide23 votes

Honestly, if they just showed a "These things were changed" while patching. Something like this...

Patching ||||||||||||.............................. 15% complete These things were changed: Darius Garen Skarner Mordekaiser... item 3083 item 3143 item 3709 ...

Just little icons, but when someone sees a champion they play, they'll be more inclined to read more.

Thunder Dreamss5 votes

That is a very good idea.

Piggy81742 votes

That's a great Idea and it would keep me from having to read every patch if nothing I cared about was changed.

Sinlaire11 votes

jesus this.

I had my top lane Aatrox feeding the crap out of fiora about a week back because he had no idea about the Fiora rework. he was ust straight up trying to duel her and several times just played "rock em sock em boppers" with her after she ulted him. HE didn't know about the %health damage, the heal, the anything. we lost hard after she went on the carry and crush everyone else.

also had a game last night about my brother picking. he kept whining saying " top and mid are taken morde." "morde we need adc" "morde they're taken. go adc"

he had no clue morde is numero uno bot lane now.

Hell Week11 votes

i had a team rage at me for playing mord bot..... i tried my best to carry but we still lost.

Downfall6 votes

This. This same thing happened to me, someone saw me go morde adc and picked graves top, and convinced my support to go top with him because morde isn't good in bot lane. Seriously? How did neither of them read patch notes?

TallThrash6 votes

To be fair once you get lvl 6 you can get a dragon support lol.

Nuclear Panda8 votes

I played morde bot and 2 people were calling me a troll

Cicote6 votes

I once had a Draven in my team and he was really confused that his passive isn't damage over time anymore.

ValuedCustomer2 votes

This one I cannot agree more.

That Draven player from your team probably got his information from the champion spotlight on the champion info page. Why is that thing still allowed to stay up on there with obsolete information that conflicts with the rest of the page?

On the flip side, let's look at the page for Ekko or TK. Where is the champion spotlight? Where are the ability videos?

The official help pages are chock full of obsolete and missing information that only serves to make a beginner's day hell. And Riot said they want to improve the new player experience.

MasqureMan6 votes

I played with a Sona who hadn't played for a couple of months and it was like watching an infant crawl through the world for the first time

PanterLily5 votes

That so true about EUNE!!

Yesterday a flaming Wukong to Gangplank : MonkeyKing : NOOB! Sell skin (Captain Gangplank) Gangplank : LOL! bilgewater man MonkeyKing : Why buy skin when u cant play him NOOB Gangplank : ...

People don't even notice major events with rewards, yet alone patch notes. So people like you are at an advantage. I mean there is gold star next to the mode, do they go in blindly in to the mode, not reading about anything?

Riot cold make news about changes to pop out more in the client, But on second thought they don't have to. For so many of them all that is labeled under "BORING". Imagine a 12y old, just came from school; He is not gonna read shit! He will be "Lets crush some noobs!" He is there for fun doesn't care for the particulars, doesn't want to do the math of the changes, he just wanna kill everything on the rift right away. For most of them even if you give them the link to the notes they wont bother at all, maybe only if they get a free skin for reading the notes they'll try to read it.

Ravore3 votes

All of this free knowledge and people choose to ignore it...the world is ending

A Liberal4 votes

I feel you, had a horrible game today where my support was AFK as bot lane morde so I had to ask the jungle to come to lane with me to which he flamed me for not sololaning vs Jinx and Sona, even after I repeatedly told him that I really couldn't solo lane as my main source of sustain and mobility were linked to another person, as well as only one of my abilties (Not counting R because it was pre-6 and not counting w because I had no support) were ranged he flamed me more and told me that he plays morde all the time and that I was retarded for not casting on minions and that my q does huge AoE effect damage.

When I asked him if he knew about the rework his friend chimed in and said that he tested morde on pbe and that morde should totally be able to solo lane vs a a duo bot lane.

.__________________________.

Maratsune4 votes

All I play is ARAM and I still read the entirety of the patch notes. I may need a life. Or a good book.

SociopathFriend4 votes

Not like you're literally stopped from playing LoL while it updates while the patch notes are right there or anything like that. Not to mention the Juggernaut update in particular has been on the home screen for what, 2 weeks now?

AbyssionKnight2 votes

If you're just playing Normals, then ignoring patch notes is fine.

If you're playing Ranked though, then you really should be aware of the state of the game, and what has been buffed or nerfed. Not only does that massively effect your team and your picks, but it gives you a distinct advantage over players who aren't aware of patch changes. In a game mode that's all about getting advantages and advancing in rank, there's really no sound reason not to use that free knowledge.

Mistress Madoka11 votes

No, It's not fine in Normals Either. That's not fair to everyone else involved. A League match is a League match, Ranked or No.

AbyssionKnight3 votes

No, what you're doing is taking your personal opinion, and setting it as a standard all other players have to live up to.

Look at popular lol youtubers, and even non-pro lol streamers, and you'll find a lot of very popular individuals who don't play the game seriously, and just play for fun. Those individuals represent the majority of the league community. Most people don't play every day, they don't read patch notes, check the forums or reddit or watch lcs and worry about the meta. They're just people playing for fun.

For individuals like you, who want to play competitively, but for whatever reason don't want to play ranked, then I'm sure normal games with casual players is annoying. However you can't point out a rule in their code of conduct that states you have to read patch notes. In fact, I'll be impressed if you can find me ever 1 game that makes reading patch notes mandatory to play their game.

The simple fact is that most people in normals don't care enough to know these things, and that's perfectly fine, regardless of what you personally think.

Mistress Madoka7 votes

No, Just because Ranked is made for "Competitive Play" and Normals is "Non-Competitive" doesn't make one more Special than the other. I agree that Normals is supposed to be more "Dick around" Than ranked, sure. I don't mind that. What I mind is people Degrading the Normal queue as if Ranked is the only queue that "Matters."

I Don't want to play competitively. I want to play with Teammates who are actually up to date on the game.

LongSh4dows1 votes

"It's totally ok to play Chess without knowing what the pieces do."

AbyssionKnight1 votes

I'd love to know where you got that logic from my post. I said you don't need to read patch notes to play the game. I hate to break it to you, but you don't have to read the patch notes to know what a champion does either. You can either play the game and learn what it does, or even just see the champion preview to get a basic understanding of the champion. No where did I say you should know nothing about the game at all.

Chess is actually a great example supporting my case. In chess, there are literally entire books dedicated to the various moves you can perform as well as strategies that can be employed. At a base level even a novice can understand the basic function of the pieces. However the more intricate moves and strategies those pieces employ are generally beyond a novice.

Do you think chess players who don't have all the move combinations and strategies memorized should be looked on with disrespect? Do you refuse to play with people who haven't read at least one book on chess?

The same applies to League. I'm not advocating knowing nothing about the game when you play. I'm not even saying you don't need to know all the champions. What i'm saying is that you don't need all the patch notes and indepth detail. If I know how kayles abilities work, I don't really need to know she lost 5 base ad this patch. The same can apply to reworks. Garen has changed, but the fundamentals of his abilities are the same. The same applies to Darius and even Morde. Yes, you'd have to adapt to the changes, but so does everyone else. It might take someone who doesn't know what the changes a little longer to figure out the nuances (either more games, or them looking up the changes after their first match against it), but that's fine. I can guarantee you people who read the patch notes are still going to struggle to adapt to these changes.

Here's a question for you. Without looking at patch notes, do you remember what the most recent changes to Ryze were? What about Ahri? Tristana? How about Urgot. If you don't remember in exact detail the number changes, then why look down on someone else who doesn't know that information, but for a different reason?

LongSh4dows1 votes

We aren't talking about number tweaks. We are talking about reworks that drastically change how champs play. And no, it's not OK to let your team lose because you don't know how to play your champion anymore. There is a distinct difference between playing Braum without knowing he had his Q buffed and playing a champion who has had major rework done.

Your Chess analogy is flawed. You think it is ok for a player to sit down to a Chess match not knowing what his pieces do. That match would not be enjoyable for either player, as his opponent would be forced to teach him the rules. Or just sit there and say 'No, your piece cannot do that. Try again'. We are not talking about advanced strategy or theory here. We are talking simply about bare bones basics.

AbyssionKnight1 votes

The title is 'People don't read patch notes, very dangerous'. The OP is complaining that because people do not read the patch notes, they're not aware of changes (including reworks). So while you might be focusing solely on rework awareness, The thread is focused on Patch Note Awareness as a whole. So yes, we are talking about number tweaks as well.

So one thing I'm curious about is when a new champion is released, or you want to play a champion you've never played before, do you honestly go to the wiki, examine all their abilities, their ratios etc, before playing, or do you just go into a game and try them out?

Most people I've encountered try champions for the first time in either a bot match, or in normals, and at least with people i've played with, both randoms or friends, they learn by reading their abilities in game, not through guides or the wiki, or patch notes. This is viewed as perfectly acceptable by the community, so I fail to see why trying a reworked champion in a normal match without knowledge of the changes would be frowned upon. It's pretty easy to read the abilities before minions spawn, while walking to lane, in lane, or while dead.

LongSh4dows1 votes

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Most people I've encountered try champions for the first time in either a bot match, or in normals, and at least with people i've played with, both randoms or friends, they learn by reading their abilities in game, not through guides or the wiki, or patch notes. This is viewed as perfectly acceptable by the community, so I fail to see why trying a reworked champion in a normal match without knowledge of the changes would be frowned upon.

Ask the OP why he made this thread then.

AbyssionKnight1 votes

That comment doesn't address anything I said, and regardless of the OPs intent, the topic he brought up, and the thing that I have been discussing in my comments, is Patch Notes as a whole.

If all you're going to do is say I'm wrong without any actual reasoning behind it, you probably should stop responding (or I'll just start ignoring you), since at this point and time you've said nothing that's going to change my opinion, or that would convince me my opinion is invalid.

LongSh4dows1 votes

Honestly, if you don't think that there is a problem with people not knowing what their champions do in a ranked match, then you are right. There is no reason to continue this dialogue. I hope all your promos are filled with players who never played their champs before and are just going to' figure it out' in game.

AbyssionKnight1 votes

"If you're just playing Normals, then ignoring patch notes is fine.

If you're playing Ranked though, then you really should be aware of the state of the game, "

Literally how I started my first post on this topic, and proof you didn't actually read what I said.

LongSh4dows1 votes

This conversation just went on so long I forgot the initial posts. :)

Maybe at Bronze it doesn't matter if you read the patchnotes, but at the OP's level of Gold/Platinum I am sure it does mean a little more. Wasting 20-40 minutes because someone doesn't know how to play a champ is just plain rude. There is a reason there is a "Player is unskilled" report button.

Telemachus72 votes

haha, i know man. i played a game with my teams 'coach' and i picked morde bot lane. and he's like, wtf? had no idea how any of his changes worked. and he was a COACH, and a gold 1 player. after the game i promptly left the team.

injourn1 votes

There was one time about, a month ago, where I was playing howling abyss and one person got nidalee, Then he asks "did they change nidalee??" it was hilarious.

Catastrop2 votes

As someone who practically doesn't care for Nidalee, I have no idea what this is supposed to entail. Seriously though, I don't recall any major changes happening to her within the last two months....or am I just like the people that OP's talking about?

Burlor2 votes

Nope, you're fine. I think he's referring to that person not being aware of the Nidalee rework that happened over 1 year ago, since no major kit changes happened since then.

That's a loooong time to not know about a rework O.O

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