personal rank or team rank?

Shaman Dman·Mar 9, 2016·1 votes·719 views

Why is it that our personal rank score is based on the win lose ratio of a random assigned team. i could understand this if we all played as a ranked team 5v5 every game. But we do not. We play a 5v5 ranked with players we do not know. We have a score system in place for after the match, it shows from s to d. Why cant it be that a player that gets a score of s in every game from 5v5 solo que with all loses get ranked better than bronze? if you are getting a and s scores on a regular basis, clearly you do not belong in bronze, but your win lose ratio shows that you are getting teamed up with players that do belong in bronze. I personally feel that solo que should be ranked on your scores, not your win lose

8 Comments

Restless SlumberMar 9, 20163 votes

This is a bad idea. This would promote playing greedily and less for the team. Anyone can get an S as long as they get fed. Not everyone can translate that S to a win though. If you're having trouble climbing it's your fault. This is because the enemy team will generally be full of ransoms they don't know as well. Also, how in the world would a champion mastery score relate to LP?

Shaman DmanMar 9, 20161 votes

i am not suggesting that the champ mastery score alone be used to set your rank score, but something similar. your in game stats can reflect how skilled player you are . why cant we get ranked on not just your win loss, but your personal kda n objectives obtained?

Restless SlumberMar 9, 20162 votes

This still doesn't work in my mind. Part of climbing is also knowing how to be carried. What do I mean by this? Not hard feed and playing something that enables the fed members of your team to flourish. Climbing should not be based off of what someone can do by them self. If this was the case I'd be a lot higher, but I still would feel better about climbing in the system that is in place. Having a good win loss honestly sounds a lot better than, "oh, I'm getting a bunch of kills so I deserve challenjour."

Shaman DmanMar 10, 20161 votes

i totally agree with you on the point of some players need to enable the fed members of your team to flourish. This is a team game after all, but when you have a good player with bad teams, you will have a bad rank. if it wasn't all random players and instead a set 5 on the team, then yes, i agree it can be based off your win loss ratio. What i was suggesting for the random team rank was NOT just your kda. have a system in place that scores you on your kda, your objectives( turrets, drags,baron, inhibs) this is the real skill level of a player. a fed player who just runs the map and gets kills is one thing. a player who is always helping the team, getting gold, getting the next target should be ranked higher than the noob who just feeds or farms

Restless SlumberMar 11, 20161 votes

I get what you're saying, but a player that does all of those things won't be stuck in low elo. If you say you're doing all these things yet you're stuck in bronze 4, trust me, you're not telling the truth. I looked at your stats and your KDA in ranked isn't even 3:1 on a single champion. You're averaging 8 deaths a game, which is not worthy of a higher rank. Don't complain saying that the system is bad and that it should be based off of KDA and objectives because if it were this way you'd still be bronze 4.

Shaman DmanMar 14, 20161 votes

yes my kda isnt great now, because i have anger issues. once i get a bad team, i stop trying. once i get insulted, i stop trying. i take responsibilty for my actions. but when im playing my best and still lose because of noob teams, i just get even, feed, throw, and make them as mad as they made me. it is my only option since they are messing with my rank. if i was ranked on my own stats, then i would have to play at my best every game. i have seen too many times other players throwing and feeding on purpose( im guilty as well) because they have nothing to lose. if your rank was based soley on your stats then less people would feed and throw on purpose

EndlessSorcererMar 9, 20161 votes

Why is it that our personal rank score is based on the win lose ratio of a random assigned team.

This is a team game.

Your ability to work with a variety of different players and champions is a significant part of that ranking.

Shaman DmanMar 9, 20161 votes

i agree somewhat. Having to work with different champs is a part of the game, and being able to work with other players as well, but like i said, if you get a score of a to s on a regular basis and still end up losing because your team or even one player does horrible, this should not reflect your solo que rank. how many times has a smurf raged about feeders, noobs, and trolls and end up losing? The smurf is a proven excellent player but still loses because of the team. the smurf usually caarries the team, has the best kda and yet his rank goes down. in the game he did well, worked with team, got objectives, and did everything you are to do in order to win. so why should he be punished for getting stuck with bad players? the scoring system can reflect how well you do with your champ and how well you id the team, this can also be applied to your rank score for win loss